iPhone 11, 11 Pro, 11 Pro Max announced (starting $699, $999, $1099 - Preorder Friday, ships Sept. 20th)

[Deleted member 9330]

Can't listen to that, what they say?

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I was gonna transcribe the segment but I ain't got time for that.

Basically, it's automatic. You can't switch to Night Mode manually. It shows you how long the exposure is going to be, for example 3 seconds. So you know to hold still for three seconds to capture the best photo. It will also use the motion sensors to detect if you're holding it in your hand or not, and if it's on something like a tripod, you can extend the capture even longer, think 30 seconds to one minute to really get those shots.

 

[Wubby]

I was gonna transcribe the segment but I ain't got time for that.

Basically, it's automatic. You can't switch to Night Mode manually. It shows you how long the exposure is going to be, for example 3 seconds. So you know to hold still for three seconds to capture the best photo. It will also use the motion sensors to detect if you're holding it in your hand or not, and if it's on something like a tripod, you can extend the capture even longer, think 30 seconds to one minute to really get those shots.

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Thanks!

Will be interesting to see the reviews on this and how it compares to the other players in the field like the P30 Pro.

 

[브라이언]

So does the regular 11 have the damage protection stuff? Don't get it, the Pro video went over it. If it does, that's pretty rad and a big deal for me. I don't care about the camera.

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Gets the increased water protection, in the trailer it showed the phone going through rigorous drop conditions as well so I assume so.

 

[takoyaki]

https://overcast.fm/+Fcm_aGf7M/45:03

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Thank you! Sounds like they were shown the feature in action with more examples that looked impressive to them. I'd like to have manual control over the feature, but now I'm cautiously optimistic.

There's also another image on the Apple Website that wasn't shown during the keynote:

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Night mode comes on automatically when needed — say, in a candlelit restaurant. When you tap the shutter, the camera takes multiple images while optical image stabilization steadies the lens.

Then the camera software goes to work. It aligns images to correct for movement. It discards the sections with too much blur and fuses sharper ones. It adjusts contrast so everything stays in balance. It fine-tunes colors so they look natural. Then it intelligently de-noises and enhances details to produce the final image.

It all adds up to night shots that stand apart — with more detail, less noise, and an authentic sense of time and place.

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[rokkerkory]

Why do we still have notches smh

 

[dallow_bg]

Wide angle lens is the main reason I used my Momentum case and phone lenses.
No need anymore!

But I'll wait for 2020.

 

[Hound]

I have an X and am typically driven to phone upgrades primarily for new and better cameras, so I am thinking of getting on board for that Pro Max. Night mode looks like what I would expect from the Pixel, so it's a very tempting upgrade. Any hope of journalists getting hands on impressions before preorders go live?

 

[AndrewDean84]

I don't get why they keep having the cameras stick out of the damn thing.

Hard pass.

 

[Tigress]

Processors on flagships dont matter. By that, I mean you have so much power that even if it were 20 or 30% faster, you wouldn't notice anyway.

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Well I'm more thinking longevity before it starts getting unbearably laggy. And where apple decides to stop supporting it (iOS 13 won't support my 6. But my 6 lasted 5 years before that point).

 

[Erebus]

Why do we still have notches smh

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Because they need space for the camera and the sensors duh.

 

[Khaos Prime]

Probably going to stick with my 7+. Don't really care about the camera and the 7+ is plenty fast. Maybe next year.

 

[Broken Hope]

Love my iPad Pro, but just can't justify making a switch to an iPhone. I was actively considering it but was underwhelmed by the leaks which turned out to be mostly right. S10+ purchase vindicated.

Really wish Apple tried crazier things. This is year 3 of iterative enhancements.

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What crazy things is the S10+ doing? That's what I don't understand, people keep saying that Apple is just making small changes every year, what big changes has Samsung made this year compared to last?

 

[NekoNeko]

Those prices lmao

 

[Potterson]

I don't understand people, lol.

But I sure did laugh at crazy applause for ultra-wide camera.

 

[Deleted member 23381]

Man phone upgrades have gotten so boring.

And man that camera array is u g l y

 

[Broken Hope]

I only have the one card on my phone so if I hover my phone over a point of sale it autodetects and opens wallet on that card, this way I just hover and fingerprint. It sounds like you're saying if I open my phone then open wallet it'll pre-approve a tap? Am I reading that right? If so that's not that bad at all.

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It's easier than that, you pull out your phone, double press the side button, Face ID will recognise you and then you just present the phone to the reader.

 

[John Caboose]

Ill keep my 8 until iPhone 12.

 

[Deleted member 33116]

Why does the cheap one look better than the expensive ones!?

 

[Genocyber]

All day battery life. Interesting to see what this means in the real world.

 

[Ninjadom]

I have an X and am typically driven to phone upgrades primarily for new and better cameras, so I am thinking of getting on board for that Pro Max. Night mode looks like what I would expect from the Pixel, so it's a very tempting upgrade. Any hope of journalists getting hands on impressions before preorders go live?

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Yes the journalists reports/reviews always go out on the Tuesday before the Friday release.

 

[behOemoth]

I don't get why they keep having the cameras stick out of the damn thing.

Hard pass.

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Sensors and objectives got significantly bigger over the last years. They need every 1/10 mm they can get.

 

[Deleted member 9330]

Yes the journalists reports/reviews always go out on the Tuesday before the Friday release.

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This is to say no reviews won't go out before preorder, but will go out before release

 

[Ninjadom]

This is to say no reviews won't go out before preorder, but will go out before release

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I asked earlier but nobody replied, does this new Super Retina XDR display refresh at 120Hz on the iPhone 11 Pro?

 

[Genocyber]

Refresh rate wasn't mentioned during the keynote so I would say no.

 

[Deleted member 9330]

I asked earlier but nobody replied, does this new Super Retina XDR display refresh at 120Hz on the iPhone 11 Pro?

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Nope, they would have bragged about it

 

[Ninjadom]

Nope, they would have bragged about it

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Refresh rate wasn't mentioned during the keynote so I would say no.

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I'm guessing so too. I just looked at the Super Retina XDR monitor on the Apple website and that doesn't have 120Hz refresh rate either.

Ha! I just noticed your avatar, Bomb Sweeper!! I recognise that classic Nintendo artwork. Was this a favourite game of yours?

 

[Cpt-GargameL]

Seems like they got rid of the X/XS/XS Max models on their site and are only offering the 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max/XR/8. Says only available from authorized resellers from the models not listed. I see what you're doing Apple lol

 

[ErrorJustin]

When comparing the line-up here and trying to finalize my decision, I stumbled on an interesting gap/observation about the 2019 iphone line -

11 starts at $700 for 64GB and a 6.1'' screen
11 Pro starts at $1000 for 64GB and a 5.8'' screen. (plus the OLED, third lens, other tech)

Simple enough so far. But the base 11 actually has a smaller HD upgrade for just $50 - the 11 w/ 128 GB for $750.

The 11 Pro doesn't offer this. It jumps up to $1150 for 256GB.

The Pro - while pretty fucking nice (dat screen) I don't think quite stacks up. The $750 iPhone 11 features double the storage of the $1000 Pro, not to mention the bigger screen (which isn't OLED and doesn't feature HDR but it's still no slouch).

I think that helped me make up my mind. Last details I'm curious about is whether the "Textured matte glass" featured in only the Pro is actually a real thing, or if it's just Apple Speak.

 

[Rotimi]

Wait does it mean the X/XS/XSMax model has been discontinued. Their absence form the lineup and IPhone 8 presence is baffling

 

[dallow_bg]

Wait does it mean the X/XS/XSMax model has been discontinued. Their absence form the lineup and IPhone 8 presence is baffling

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X was discontinued last year. And yes, XS is now discontinued.
There's some X models in the refurbished section though.

 

[ShaggsMagoo]

I went from the 3GS to a iPhone 6, I just hope this thing can hold out another year because the 11 doesn't look exciting at all.

 

[Rotimi]

X was discontinued last year. And yes, XS is now discontinued.
There's some X models in the refurbished section though.

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Wow sales must've been bad. No wonder Iphone 11 seems so good

 

[dallow_bg]

Wow sales must've been bad. No wonder Iphone 11 seems so good

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Yeah.... that's what it was...

 

[Ninjadom]

Wait does it mean the X/XS/XSMax model has been discontinued. Their absence form the lineup and IPhone 8 presence is baffling

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Yes, the X was actually discontinued only 10 months after it hit retail stores. It launched at retail in November 2017 and was discontinued in September 2018. Making it the iPhone that was actually on the market for the shortest time.

And now the XS & XS Max are discontinued.

 

[Deleted member 9330]

Wow sales must've been bad. No wonder Iphone 11 seems so good

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The X sold like mad.

What it is is a new strategy. Keep the "regular" (XR, 11) phone around for the following year, but make sure the "Pro" level (X, XS) is always fresh and new. That way you never have to give up your $1000 price point

 

[Kordelle]

So can you now take Portraits with the ultrawide, normal and telephoto lens on the Pro?

 

[Vuze]

I just saw the ultrawide lens has no OIS, so I guess that could be a relatively safe bet for next year as well

Also I need somebody to check if they finally included a video format setting in the new "Pro" stock camera app hehe

So can you now take Portraits with the ultrawide, normal and telephoto lens on the Pro?

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The site says "With three cameras working together, you can fit more in your portraits than ever.", so probably.

 

[tadale]

It's not really clear to me - is the 11's screen as good or better than the X? That would be the deciding factor in an upgrade for me, I think.

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

Any manufacturers make pretty good minimalist cases? I'd like something that goes rugged around the edges of the phone but doesn't really obscure the front and back design of the phone.

I also know 11 cases aren't quite on sale yet, but just wondering if there were any manufacturers that made cases that fit the bill for XS/XR.

Want solid drop protection on the edges, enough of a lift/buffer to prevent wobble from the camera module, and show off front/back.

 

[Serene]

Trade-in prices are pretty solid. They give $600 off if you trade in an XS Max.

 

[Henrar]

I'm guessing so too. I just looked at the Super Retina XDR monitor on the Apple website and that doesn't have 120Hz refresh rate either.

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Well, the monitor is 6K and needs to be connected with a cable that is already saturated (as the USB-C hub only supports 2.0 speeds). 120Hz without aggressive chroma subsampling is not possible on that.

 

[CloseTalker]

It's not really clear to me - is the 11's screen as good or better than the X? That would be the deciding factor in an upgrade for me, I think.

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It's worse

That said, the 11 is by far the best value Apple currently offers, especially since its debuting for $50 less than the XR did a years ago (and that was already a great phone).

$699 starting for an iPhone 11 is very good value, assuming screen is fine with you (and just go look at the thing in person, the screen is more than fine). Being able to go up $50 to bump up to 128gb only sweetens the deal.

 

[tadale]

It's worse

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Thanks - then I'll get a pro or skip this cycle.

 

[Deleted member 21709]

What will be the price of a 11 Pro Max with 256GB capacity?

 

[パンダさん]

Is it just me or does white color of the iPhone 11 looks some kind of eggshell white?

 

[Serene]

What will be the price of a 11 Pro Max with 256GB capacity?

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$1249

 

[Rotimi]

The X sold like mad.

What it is is a new strategy. Keep the "regular" (XR, 11) phone around for the following year, but make sure the "Pro" level (X, XS) is always fresh and new. That way you never have to give up your $1000 price point

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Alright that seems great. Using an 8 was thinking of upgrading to a 11plain but want to see the 11/R type phone for next year before jumping especially if the price is similar

 

[Deleted member 9330]

So can you now take Portraits with the ultrawide, normal and telephoto lens on the Pro?

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Correct

I just saw the ultrawide lens has no OIS, so I guess that could be a relatively safe bet for next year as well

Also I need somebody to check if they finally included a video format setting in the new "Pro" stock camera app hehe

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It does not

Is it just me or does white color of the iPhone 11 looks some kind of eggshell white?

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It looks different, yes. I was thinking more creamy but eggshell is a better description

 

[Rotimi]

It's worse

That said, the 11 is by far the best value Apple currently offers, especially since its debuting for $50 less than the XR did a years ago (and that was already a great phone).

$699 starting for an iPhone 11 is very good value, assuming screen is fine with you (and just go look at the thing in person, the screen is more than fine). Being able to go up $50 to bump up to 128gb only sweetens the deal.

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Highly agree
11 just like the XR is good value

 

[Erebus]

So can you now take Portraits with the ultrawide, normal and telephoto lens on the Pro?

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Gotta need confirmation for that.

MKHD said that the regular 11 can now take portraits of pets and other items unlike the Xr. It's funny how they're starting to lock out more and more software features that could be well implemented in older models easily.

Curious to see if the updated camera app interface (holding the shutter button to record video etc.) is present on older iPhones.