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poklane

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Oct 25, 2017
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Via AP News: https://apnews.com/3e2d08074a4f4256ba6ee379cdb168f7
Iran acknowledged Monday it had broken the limit set on its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by the 2015 nuclear deal, marking its first major departure from the unraveling agreement a year after the U.S. unilaterally withdrew from the accord.

Under terms of the nuclear deal, Iran agreed to have less than 300 kilograms (661 pounds) of uranium enriched to a maximum of 3.67%. Previously, Iran enriched as high as 20%, which is a short technical step away from reaching weapons-grade levels. It also held up to 10,000 kilograms (22,046 pounds) of the higher-enriched uranium.

Zarif was quoted as also saying that the country remained on track to raise its enrichment if Europe did not take any additional steps toward saving the accord.

"The next step is about the 3.67% limitation, which we will implement too," he warned.

The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, has confirmed that Iran has indeed exceeded the enriched uranium stockpile limit.


UN nuclear watchdog the IAEA confirms Iran has exceeded enriched uranium stockpile limit
 

viskod

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Nov 9, 2017
4,396
If only we could just come to some terms with Iran specifically regarding Nuclear material and weapons that included strict inspections and that numerous countries could agree on.
 

Omegasquash

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Oct 31, 2017
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I mean...the US stepped out of the deal AND applied serious sanctions.

What the fuck did anyone think would happen?
 

TheOMan

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Oct 25, 2017
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"deal" should be in quotes considering the US reneged on it and it no longer exists.
 

absolutbro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone who thought they were going to stick to the deal is naive at best. Anyone who somehow thought they were going to stick to the deal after President Shitbird pulled out of the deal is actually insane. If the US had a real president instead of the sock puppet idiot currently disgracing the White House, at least Iran would have kept quiet about breaching the limit. No reason to now.

It's going to be extremely irritating all the "SEE TRUMP KNEW THEY WERE LYING" nonsense from Fox and their ilk.
 

Bleu

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Sep 21, 2018
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well thanks to the orange genius, the very system that was there to stop that, and was extremely efficient at it because Iran did respect its obligations then, is no longer there.
 
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poklane

poklane

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I mean...the US stepped out of the deal AND applied serious sanctions.

What the fuck did anyone think would happen?
Personally I was kinda hoping Iran would be willing to take the hit in the hopes of a Democrat being elected next year, with that person then re-entering the deal and lifting all related sanctions in order to save the deal.
But hey, if Iran is now slowly pulling out of the deal as well all parties might as well just consider it dead. And in the end shitstain Trump is to blame, fucking piece of shit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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What deal? The one the other party walked out on over a year ago?

Personally I was kinda hoping Iran would be willing to take the hit in the hopes of a Democrat being elected next year, with that person then re-entering the deal and lifting all related sanctions in order to save the deal.
But hey, if Iran is now slowly pulling out of the deal as well all parties might as well just consider it dead. And in the end shitstain Trump is to blame, fucking piece of shit.
Iran made a deal with the United States, not the Democratic Party. It's really not on them to base their own regulatory policy on predicting US politics.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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Iran and Trump are provoking each other into a completely avoidable war. For fuck's sake, let me out of this garbage-ass timeline.
 

Buzzman

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Oct 25, 2017
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"If Europeans do what they have to do, our measures are reversible," Zarif said, according to IRNA.

Zarif was quoted as also saying that the country remained on track to raise its enrichment if Europe did not take any additional steps toward saving the accord.
I don't know if they actually mean it, but it seems like they're specifically telling Europe that they can still save the deal?
Curious what their demands for Europe are, as long as it isn't "have Trump sign a new deal"
 

Polk

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Oct 26, 2017
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Personally I was kinda hoping Iran would be willing to take the hit in the hopes of a Democrat being elected next year, with that person then re-entering the deal and lifting all related sanctions in order to save the deal.
But hey, if Iran is now slowly pulling out of the deal as well all parties might as well just consider it dead. And in the end shitstain Trump is to blame, fucking piece of shit.
I'm not sure why Iran would swollow the pride when sanctions are hurting them. Waiting 2+ years for change of administration isn't valid option for most countries.
 
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poklane

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I don't know if they actually mean it, but it seems like they're specifically telling Europe that they can still save the deal?
Curious what their demands for Europe are, as long as it isn't "have Trump sign a new deal"
I'm pretty sure he's basically telling the EU countries to just ignore the US sanctions which you know, not happening even if hell freezes over.
 

DrewFu

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It will be interesting to see what the EU does. They claimed there would be consequences if they did this...but will they do anything?
 

Omegasquash

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Personally I was kinda hoping Iran would be willing to take the hit in the hopes of a Democrat being elected next year, with that person then re-entering the deal and lifting all related sanctions in order to save the deal.
But hey, if Iran is now slowly pulling out of the deal as well all parties might as well just consider it dead. And in the end shitstain Trump is to blame, fucking piece of shit.

I had the same hope too, truth be told.

Living in a world where you hope that Iran (of all nations) is going to take one on the chin. We lost a serious fight when Trump got elected.

As an aside...I might have missed it, but was the nuclear deal brought up at all during the Democratic debates? I'd have liked to hear what the candidate's thoughts are. I'd also wonder what impact it would have if any of the candidates stated publicly that they'd re-enter the deal as it was written.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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There seems to be no easy answer to this as Trump has completely decimated his geopolitical capital for almost no good reason.

If I were Iran, I'd do the same thing.
 

spookyduzt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Another successful negotiation by Trump the master. Blast fax kudos all around!
 

etrain911

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Oct 27, 2017
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Didn't the US leave this deal? I don't know why the media is acting like any of this is still binding other than being ridiculous war hawks.
 

DrewFu

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There seems to be no easy answer to this as Trump has completely decimated his geopolitical capital for almost no good reason.

If I were Iran, I'd do the same thing.
It makes zero sense for Iran to do this in the long run. The only outcome will be the EU eventually re-applying their own sanctions on and an already economically devastated Iran.
 

Saganator

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Oct 26, 2017
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Gonna use this to justify military action, even though the shit stain Trump tore up the deal.
 

Rebel1

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Oct 25, 2017
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If only we could just come to some terms with Iran specifically regarding Nuclear material and weapons that included strict inspections and that numerous countries could agree on.
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DrewFu

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Its been like this lately, suddenly the Orange one is weak on them and they have become super Hawkish
Didn't the US leave this deal? I don't know why the media is acting like any of this is still binding other than being ridiculous war hawks.
Both sides are handling it poorly. The US never should have backed out of the deal, but Iran is continuing to respond in a way that only further hurts themselves. Pushing the EU to eventually slap their own sanctions back on them makes zero sense.
 

Cor

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Oct 25, 2017
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It makes zero sense for Iran to do this in the long run. The only outcome will be the EU eventually re-applying their own sanctions on and an already economically devastated Iran.
given the US's propensity to elect republicans, the only hope of long term safety against invasion Iran can have is a nuclear deterrent.

Esp since, as seen with NK, once one has been acquired, the US seems to become more willing to negotiate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Personally I was kinda hoping Iran would be willing to take the hit in the hopes of a Democrat being elected next year, with that person then re-entering the deal and lifting all related sanctions in order to save the deal.
But hey, if Iran is now slowly pulling out of the deal as well all parties might as well just consider it dead. And in the end shitstain Trump is to blame, fucking piece of shit.
lmao imagine trusting the future of your country on the result of the US election
 

DrewFu

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given the US's propensity to elect republicans, the only hope of long term safety against invasion Iran can have is a nuclear deterrent.

Esp since, as seen with NK, once one has been acquired, the US seems to become more willing to negotiate.
The US isn't going to invade Iran and Iran knows this. They're only worsening the situation for themselves.
 

UberTag

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is what happens when you're gonna get sanctioned whether you pursue nuclear material or not.
Pretty much. I expected Iran to stick to the terms of the deal after the US pulled out as all of the other partners were still on board. But after they were getting sanctioned to hell and back no matter what they did? Fuck that. Might as well go back to business as usual. (That said, the EU is going to sanction them now as well... but Iran probably expected those to happen due to US pressure even if they did nothing.)
 

Biske

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Nov 11, 2017
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I mean...the US stepped out of the deal AND applied serious sanctions.

What the fuck did anyone think would happen?

Seriously, Iran has no reason not to build a bomb and tell everyone to fuck off. They honored their deal and were doing it and we shit on them for it.

And given its Trump it's reasonable to think once they have a bomb he will be their best friend
 

Cor

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Oct 25, 2017
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The US isn't going to invade Iran and Iran knows this. They're only worsening the situation for themselves.
Iran knows that about as much as NK knew that they wouldnt get invaded cuz they got Seoul in their sights.

The US wont invade iran provided they have a rational, somewhat good faith actor in charge. Republicans aint that. Papa T especially aint that.

Also a reminder that Rouhani is the temperate president. Come 2021 Ahmadinejad's party might make a comeback partially due to all the US saber rattling, and you betcha theyll go right back to pursuing that.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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Going to be really funny to see the reactions to this news compared to people (again) falling over themselves to give Trump credit for his PR photos with Kim.
 

Omegasquash

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Oct 31, 2017
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Going to be really funny to see the reactions to this news compared to people (again) falling over themselves to give Trump credit for his PR photos with Kim.

He'll ignore the withdrawal and sanctions, and just state that this is what they wanted to do all along. Trump supporters will just drink it right up, as usual.
 

Ephonk

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know if they actually mean it, but it seems like they're specifically telling Europe that they can still save the deal?
Curious what their demands for Europe are, as long as it isn't "have Trump sign a new deal"
The US is not only sanctioning Iran, but also sanctions EU companies (and thus countries) that still want to work together with Iran or do business there. Most EU companies stopped working with Iran in order to not get sanctioned by the US.
 

Kiraly

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Oct 30, 2017
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This is essentially Iran's way to force Europe their hand. They've threatened with this if the EU partners still in the deal do not do more to alleviate the pressure of the sanctions. Will be really interesting to see what the EU partners will do. And fuck the United States for getting us in this mess in the first place.