I guess if you just read that post, sure. I did make others, I may have worded that one not great, idk. If you see anything like that in my post history by all means call it out so I can do better, same way I hope I'd be called on anything ignorant irl
Do you think a PoC would be in the wrong for saying "fucking white people"? Like, there is a legitimate justified anger there, it's not inherently a bad thing to vent that. If you took some time to understand why people say that I think you'd say "shit, that actually makes sense".
Uncle Todd says it's his secret recipe but we know he just buys it at Target and puts it in a bowl.
To be fair, not everyone can just hop over to Europe. Stuff may be different over there, I don't know but like it's also different here. It would be pretty hard to drop "racial thinking" when from birth to death it's a huge determining factor in everything and when it's as deeply embedded as it is in our culture and on a systemic level, ignoring it isn't going to help. the only people that hurts are the victims of racism, especially when white people are usually the first ones to say "why does everything have to be about race?"
i get this.
I didn't say I said it. More agreeing with the OP. Personally I probably wouldn't.
See this is horse shit and the exact sentiment that gave rise to fuckheads like Trump. Uneducated poor white people see this as a GRAVE injustice. In a sense they are right. Never have they been more poor. I digress though, for someone who teaches bias training this is pure crap.
I'm not suggesting that we ignore racism. I'm just saying that responding with "fucking white people" to things that some white people have done is stupid, possibly hypocritical, and perpetuates the same sort of racial generalising that I hope we're trying to move away from.
They vote against their own self interests because they don't want minorities getting or having anything.
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I won't get into how stupid stupid people are. The same sentiment can be provided to all the folks out there Who just don't vote. Voter apathy is a huge issue and I think the landscape of this country could have been much different over the last 20 years if people just fucking voted. Trump wouldn't be in office if the minority voter turned out in the last election. That's a fucking fact. So people whether they vote or not vote against their self interest
That isn't nuance though. That's the difference between racism and fighting injustice. That is a HUGE difference.
I don't know that racism perpetuated by white people onto minorities is really at all in the same ballpark as any inverse of that. White people by and large are not the victims of racism to any significant degree except by our own perception of being victims. You could make the argument that white people are "victims" of racial anger, but then you'd have to look at the context of why that is, and when you look at it like that it makes sense.
Voter suppression in the Midwest and the gutting of the voting rights act plays a large part in this equation. You can correctly point out that apathy and low turnout is an issue, and it is an important one that needs to be fixed, but it's a problem across nearly every demographic of the population. Think about how much more effective Obama would have been as a President if people had shown up in the 2010 and 2012 midterms.
Well yeah, I've previously argued that it is a huge difference. I meant nuance in the sense that it might not be easy for some people to realise the importance of their choice of language when making such points.
I don't disagree that suppression and gerrymandering is a big issue but it isn't as prevalent as people just not showing to vote. This isn't just on minorities this is on every race. This is a societal issue. People who don't vote are betraying their country.
The difference is one of whether or not you are sensitive to metonyms. I feel no type of way when LGBT people shit on "the heteros," because I inherently understand that's a succinct frustration with the social attitudes and systems propogated primarily by heterosexual people, and I'm certainly not about to call it bigoted. And I'll be honest; I can't mentally empathize with people in majority groups who get their feelings hurt over this kind of rhetoric. It just doesn't bother me. It would be better to expend energy being upset by these minor double standards to fixing the conditions that these double standards are criticizing.
