Nah that's not where he says "we need to be [checked]," when he created Ultron the impetus behind the Sokovia accords.
Is "I've successfully privatized World Peace" the cringiest line in the MCU?
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This. Mickey Rourke’s performance was the cringiest moment in the MCU.
Yea, I think it's on purpose. He's a dick but he's also smart and key to the future. So how do you square those two, and will he grow from that view?
Genndy Tartakovsky designed that big final fight scene which is why it looks so good. If only they brought him in for more of the movies.
I kind of disagree with people saying this is supposed to be cringey because the whole scene is about him sticking it to the cartoonishly evil politician.
Yeah, especially in hindsight, the Jon Favreau and Joss Whedon films were rough in places. My favorite is how every line Jarvis has in IM2 is just straight-up explaining-to-the-audience exposition. "The same thing that is keeping you alive is also killing you." "You've created a new element."
And...yeah, the Prima Nocta joke in AoU is...oof.
But "I've successfully privatized world piece" isn't really one of those lines. He's supposed to be arrogant and immature at that point in the story. Like, later in the same movie, he gets drunk in the suit at his birthday party, pees in it, and then starts blasting watermelons with it to impress the ladies.
And...yeah, the Prima Nocta joke in AoU is...oof.
But "I've successfully privatized world piece" isn't really one of those lines. He's supposed to be arrogant and immature at that point in the story. Like, later in the same movie, he gets drunk in the suit at his birthday party, pees in it, and then starts blasting watermelons with it to impress the ladies.
He uses the arc reactor as a clean energy source in the first Avengers and has sold repulsor tech to SHIELD for the helicarriers.
He also sells off Avengers Tower in Spider-Man, so maybe the company was hitting a rough patch haha. Actually, do we have any idea if Tony even still has a company post-Infinity War? He and Pepper are retired during the timeskip.
He powered Stank tower with it. The day to day of Stank Inc. isn't really the focus of of the movies but it wouldn't be surprising to learn they branched out into the energy sector once the tech was proven on a large scale as was the case with the tower.
That's pretty much the moment I started to actively root against tony stark.
I haven’t watched it in years, but it was super corny at the time.
What’s funny is the big complaint at the time about Iron Man 2 was the Avengers/Nick Fury scenes taking up too much time, but that was my favorite part of the movie. I was super excited to see where they were going with the Avengers.
I think the intent is that he's incredibly ballsy and arrogant - but to an extent I agree with the idea it's aged poorly. I think it's meant to be a mix of "wow what an asshole" and "wow he's kind of badass," same as the character in general, and the "badass" half shrinks and shrinks and shrinks as our admiration for the mega-rich fades.
Nah the worst version was at the end of Rise of Skywalker. “And I...am all the Jedi”
Yeah, it's definitely an "Iron Man" thing to say, so context is important here for sure. But man, it still rubbed me the wrong way, I can't explain.
Oh yeah, no, that's in a league of its own lol.
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Reading the thread/Got busy with other stuff. But to generally reply to what everyone is saying I kinda... Forgot that the point of Iron Man 2 was Tony's hubris. So my bad. But I have seen people in my personal life quote this scene as a boast before. Like while talking to a right leaning friend of mine about raising taxes he actually said "You want my property, you can't have it!" So I think it can be interrupted as the movie trying to have it both ways also.
Speaking of poorly-aged (or just awful) stuff in Iron Man 2: when my wife and I rewatched all the movies at the start of the pandemic, we both groaned when Elon Musk shows up at the Monaco race.
That just seems more like your right-leaning friend identifying with a selfish character, rather than the movie "trying to have it both ways."
Iron Man 2 is very upfront about Tony being egotistical, self-destructive, and out of control. It hammers that point home to the point where it's almost a little unfun to watch.
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Stark being overconfident and eventually paying for his hubris is kind of the point. That's part of his character. He's being a dick here, but it's sort of entertaining because he's being a dick to people who would do horrible things with his technology if he caved to them. The mix of tolerating or even liking his behavior because he's on the "good" side and being faced with the consequences of his hubris is a struggle that both the audience and Stark himself goes through.
Stark can only trust himself with the power of his technology, but it also means that all the consequences of any decisions made with that power, good and bad, fall squarely on his shoulders. It crushes him as a person, and the question "should I trust only myself or should I answer to others?" is a core driver of his character progression throughout the movies.
I agree that he had to say something there, and that was probably the best line he could have said.
Stark can only trust himself with the power of his technology, but it also means that all the consequences of any decisions made with that power, good and bad, fall squarely on his shoulders. It crushes him as a person, and the question "should I trust only myself or should I answer to others?" is a core driver of his character progression throughout the movies.
Yeah, I think that was the point. It was the line that closed several Iron Man movies (or maybe all of them?), and that was his last act as Iron Man.
I agree that he had to say something there, and that was probably the best line he could have said.
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I wouldn't say it's supposed to be cringey, but he's definitely not shown to be in the right either. Other governments getting Ironman suits does look like a bad idea so we like that it's just Tony since he's the hero of the movie, but him saying he privatized world peace is just a clear example of his hubris.
Pepper is basically the moral center of these Ironman movies and she would scoff at that statement.
Right Wing people always misinterpret stuff to fit their agenda.
Paul Ryan listening to RATM when he is the epitome of the machine
Trump playing Fortunate Son acting like he wasn't specifically one of those fortunate sons
Reagan playing Born in The USA like the song isn't condemning everything he represents
and a million more
Hot take, but a lot of what Thanos says. Dude is literally just a walking philosophical edgelord.
Tony Stark is actually the biggest villain in the MCU. He's responsible for almost every single villain the avengers face and he gaslights the team into a standoff to be protected from everything he caused. This line makes perfect sense.
Yep. We occasionally see small glimpses of Stark’s hologram tech showing up in the civilian sector and in military/government equipment in MCU movies, so he’s presumably sold or licensed that too.
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The cringiest line is at the end of Ultron when Tony goes “that man has no regard for lawn maintenance” and since Whedon wrote that it’s a double L
The cringiest line is at the end of Ultron when Tony goes “that man has no regard for lawn maintenance” and since Whedon wrote that it’s a double L
Wasn't that Iron Man's arc?
Asshole billionaire heir of his father's war machine who has a traumatic event that lets him question everything his company does and goes on to become a Super Hero.
This line happened before he was kidnapped.
Asshole billionaire heir of his father's war machine who has a traumatic event that lets him question everything his company does and goes on to become a Super Hero.
This line happened before he was kidnapped.
That was kinda the point. Thanos is callous and for all his talk about balance and being fair and just and compassionate, he was still making a choice for a universe he didn't believe deserved the right to make that choice - or a different choice - for itself.
Thanos doesn't actually care about saving the universe from consuming itself - he only cares about proving he is right and being recognised and praised for his genius. He gave it all away when he said he wants the universe to be grateful to him for killing half of it.