Yea, when did shitting on Kojima became a thing? Because he developed an exclusive game?I'm legitimately curious about when it became the in thing to hate on Kojima? Like, when did that start, exactly? He's consistently made some incredible games, and while I've only played a few hours of Death Stranding, it's clear that he's created something different. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's an intriguing game and concept.
He's a talented game designer, with a penchant for infusing his work with his eccentric world view. I don't understand the need to hate on him at the level I see in every thread about him. If you don't enjoy his work, just don't engage with it. I can't stand Michael Bay or Zack Snyder, so I don't waste my time consuming their content, and I certainly don't go out of my way to shit on them in every thread related to them. I guess I just feel like my energy could be spent towards discussing things that don't make my blood pressure rise or put me in a foul mood.
I just don't really buy this tbh. The negativity is so overwhelming more pervasive here than the zealotry that it's almost to the point of parody imo. Not only is this a thread comparing artists in different media, which is kinda pointless, but you have people literally saying that kojima is worse than a director who is a literal punch line for making terrible stuff. its just so strange.It’s mostly a reaction the zealotry. He’s extremely talented at game design and his games have helped shape the industry. Problem is that it’s a combination of his fanbase being so fervent in its proselytization and him being completely & utterly full of himself that many people are worn thin from the countless times Kojima is placed on a pedestal by himself or others.
Look, I didn’t like Death Stranding. And I think that not liking it is reasonable. I played it, didn’t like it. Many many many people played, and absolutely loved it. Also reasonable. But when his fans are proclaiming it “GOTY” *prior to release* without even playing a minute of it, it’s a bit much. When Kojima proclaims that he’s creating a new genre, it’s a bit much. He’s been compared to Scorcese and Kubrick in this thread. Without irony. I think it’s reasonable to roll up and respond “yeah that’s crazy and so are you” to any of those proclamations.
Go look at how people reacted to DS being nominated for various categories at the TGA's. People going as far as to create conspiracy theories about why it was nominated. Then you had the whole fiasco where even journalists jumped in with dumping on Kojima after a tweet he made around what a "Hideo Kojima" game means.
I agree with this a bit.
The Clifford Unger storyline in Death Stranding is bad? Or haven't you played the game?
So I just beat Death Stranding. I loved the gameplay; building infrustructure to link the various outposts is actually quite addicting. That said, the story is hugely disappointing, for a number of reasons I won't get into right now. And the "action" parts also sucked.
The last few stories that Kojima tried to tell have been disappionting to me. Death Stranding, Metal Gear Solid V, and Peace Walker as well. So for the last decade, Kojima has let me down in the story department, which is a giant shame, because I adored the stories of the first four Metal Gear Solid games.
This made me think about how I feel the same about M. Night Shyamalan. The man's first three movies, The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable and Signs, are all amazing and beautiful movies with great, human stories. Then the guy drank too much of his own kool-aid and went off the deep-end, and hasn't been able to tell a good story since. Split was the closest he came to being back to form, but even that does not approach the level of quality of his first three movies.
Kojima feels the same. Dude had it all earlier in his career, then, from many accounts, became imbued with his own ego, and stopped telling great stories.
Kojima has become shit in my opinion.
good thing the first 10 hours own
I was having fun in Death Stranding pretty much as soon as gameplay started. There's nothing wrong with the first 10 hours
There's nothing that happens 10 hours into the game that causes such a major change. If anything that change happens 20 hours in where zip-lines get introduced and the deliveries go from being a test of endurance to a test of speed and efficiency.
I think that he's George Lucas but more embarrassing
You are claiming that thread is "fans are proclaiming it “GOTY"" ? I feel like you just moved the goalposts quite a bit. Yes, that was clearly a pretty dumb thread, but it does seem like a one off and suggesting this was wide-spread or any kind of "proclamation: is nonsense.