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Is Kojima the M. Night Shyamalan of the gaming industry?
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Yea, when did shitting on Kojima became a thing? Because he developed an exclusive game?
Ppl actibtg as if theres a massive hater boner for Kojima on Era are delusional. He is beloved here, probably more than most gaming forums.
I love MGS1-3 and I like PW for what it is but everything else is not very good imo. MGS4 with its horrid story and limited gameplay. MGSV with its horrid story and terrible gameplay outside the fantastic character control and AI. I look forward to seeing if DS can win me over this xmas break.
I love MGS1-3 and I like PW for what it is but everything else is not very good imo. MGS4 with its horrid story and limited gameplay. MGSV with its horrid story and terrible gameplay outside the fantastic character control and AI. I look forward to seeing if DS can win me over this xmas break.
I just don't really buy this tbh. The negativity is so overwhelming more pervasive here than the zealotry that it's almost to the point of parody imo. Not only is this a thread comparing artists in different media, which is kinda pointless, but you have people literally saying that kojima is worse than a director who is a literal punch line for making terrible stuff. its just so strange.
Go look at how people reacted to DS being nominated for various categories at the TGA's. People going as far as to create conspiracy theories about why it was nominated. Then you had the whole fiasco where even journalists jumped in with dumping on Kojima after a tweet he made around what a "Hideo Kojima" game means.
He's the Chris Nolan. Technically skilled in their respective industries. Nobody else makes big budget products quite like them. Later work less universally beloved than their earlier stuff. Internet nerds won't shut up about them.
The Clifford Unger storyline in Death Stranding is bad? Or haven't you played the game?
People keep mentioning The Happening and now all I can think about is how that is definitely Shyamalan's most Kojima-esque work. Funny to see people shit on it in film form though while trying to downplay the comparison to Kojima.
I don't think they're that comparable overall though. Kojima mostly takes and learns from action movies. Zack Snyder works since he took the slow-mo stuff that was already becoming prevalent in action movies and blew it up into his own style that got him a bunch of work he may not have had otherwise.
I don't think they're that comparable overall though. Kojima mostly takes and learns from action movies. Zack Snyder works since he took the slow-mo stuff that was already becoming prevalent in action movies and blew it up into his own style that got him a bunch of work he may not have had otherwise.
We literally had threads created and shut down because some here were asking if it was GOTY before it had even released.
Peter Molyneux is the M. Night of gaming, to be honest.
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What a twist!
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What a twist!
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He hasn't had as many flops as Shamalanahan. Hell DS is his worst rated game at 83 on metacritic. I am sorry that you dared to criticize Kojima, Era does not like!
Hideo Kojima makes video games. The video games he makes are often very good.
M Night Shyamalan makes movies. The movies he makes are often lackluster.
So no.
M Night Shyamalan makes movies. The movies he makes are often lackluster.
So no.
You should all watch Servant on AppleTV and play Death Stranding.
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Kojima has become shit in my opinion.
But seriously any game where you have to play 10 hours to "Get to the good part" is awful game design. I couldn't even last that long. Such a disappointment considering the metal gear series was pretty damn amazing overall.
More like George Lucas. In the sense that both have tons of ideas, good and bad, and that they need someone on their team to listen to what they have to say, and then tell them "No".
These threads are something else.
No, don't be fucking absurd. And I don't even like all of his products, but to make such a comparison is silly.
No, don't be fucking absurd. And I don't even like all of his products, but to make such a comparison is silly.
V had a very good story even though most people missed the point
not completely sold on the one in death stranding yet, though i haven't gotten very far
not completely sold on the one in death stranding yet, though i haven't gotten very far
I was having fun in Death Stranding pretty much as soon as gameplay started. There's nothing wrong with the first 10 hours
There's nothing that happens 10 hours into the game that causes such a major change. If anything that change happens 20 hours in where zip-lines get introduced and the deliveries go from being a test of endurance to a test of speed and efficiency.
Yah. For me Lucas comes to the mind. Great at creating new interesting worlds and lore for those worlds but bad at actually writing stories and dialogue.
I think that he's George Lucas but more embarrassing
I mean... I don't think there's anything in Lucas career more embarrassing than Quiet
And in portuguese Lord Dooku literally sounds like "Lord from the Asshole"
Since basically every Kojima game since MGS1 is on the short list for game of the year, his movie director equivalent would have to also consistently make movies that are regarded as film of the year.
So these M. Night, Snyder, George Lucas are all poor comparisons.
So these M. Night, Snyder, George Lucas are all poor comparisons.
What I don't get is why for an enthusiast board people get stuck on story in a game. I know people love their stories but it's an interactive medium built off games, rules instead of story.
Kojima is one of the greatest game designers from MG on MSX he has been pushing game design forward never mind that fact MG,MG2,MGS 1-2 are really big reasons why stories are done the way they are, he was pushing interactive narrative on the MSX, at a time when most developers story was the first page of the instructions and a thank you for playing screen.
I mean strapping in and laughing at the silly story is what you do while looking at the polished cutscenes between game.
As for M.Night having more cultural mindshare doesn't mean Sixth Sense is more influential than Metal Gear. Sure more people have seen it so more people know it, but it really didn't affect film that much, whereas Metal Gear has influenced the games industry and its direction multiple times, that is more influential and more important just because less people have interacted with it.
But whatever the haters will call me a cult member and say I drank the kool aid while calling Hideo a failed film director even though games were not and could not be anything like a movie when he joined the industry. Baseless hatred is so old and played out....
Kojima is one of the greatest game designers from MG on MSX he has been pushing game design forward never mind that fact MG,MG2,MGS 1-2 are really big reasons why stories are done the way they are, he was pushing interactive narrative on the MSX, at a time when most developers story was the first page of the instructions and a thank you for playing screen.
I mean strapping in and laughing at the silly story is what you do while looking at the polished cutscenes between game.
As for M.Night having more cultural mindshare doesn't mean Sixth Sense is more influential than Metal Gear. Sure more people have seen it so more people know it, but it really didn't affect film that much, whereas Metal Gear has influenced the games industry and its direction multiple times, that is more influential and more important just because less people have interacted with it.
But whatever the haters will call me a cult member and say I drank the kool aid while calling Hideo a failed film director even though games were not and could not be anything like a movie when he joined the industry. Baseless hatred is so old and played out....
No because M Night made two great films
My response would have been "No because M Night doesn't hate women as much as Kojima does" but that seems to be a thing less of you want to hear than just "he's not that good in my opinion"
He's certainly no Lucas because Lucas made a bunch of fun films that are still enjoyable experiences
My response would have been "No because M Night doesn't hate women as much as Kojima does" but that seems to be a thing less of you want to hear than just "he's not that good in my opinion"
He's certainly no Lucas because Lucas made a bunch of fun films that are still enjoyable experiences
Not even close. Kojima has consistently been one of the best game designers generation after generation. M night has never reached the heights of Sixth Sense and release mostly average films.
I don't know what fantasy land haters are living on but Kojima in actuality is one of the most acclaimed video game directors currently in the industry.
I don't know what fantasy land haters are living on but Kojima in actuality is one of the most acclaimed video game directors currently in the industry.
If this post is saying that Kojima has not made two great games then it's simply laughable
You are claiming that thread is "fans are proclaiming it "GOTY"" ? I feel like you just moved the goalposts quite a bit. Yes, that was clearly a pretty dumb thread, but it does seem like a one off and suggesting this was wide-spread or any kind of "proclamation: is nonsense.