Witcher 3 was ported to the Switch. Halo Infinite being downported to the XB1 won't be that big of an issue.
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Is Microsoft making a mistake by developing Halo:Infinite for the Xbox One?
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Nintendo didn't market power as the Switch's gimmick, though, so BOTW being pretty much identical wasn't an issue as it was now running on a handheld. With the difference in power between Scarlett and One, it'll definitely show how they had to build it with the One in mind.
The next Xbox needs a show-piece title. Anything that could prevent that is bad.
If 343 has to make any compromises to the finished product in order for Xbox machines launched in 2013 to play it, then the title should simply not release on that platform.
....Then again, this game is going to release on PC. And we assume Microsoft wants a wide range of PC's to be able to run it there, too, so....
If 343 has to make any compromises to the finished product in order for Xbox machines launched in 2013 to play it, then the title should simply not release on that platform.
....Then again, this game is going to release on PC. And we assume Microsoft wants a wide range of PC's to be able to run it there, too, so....
The Elder Scrolls 6 will use next gen hardware to create a world that wasn't possible on the current hardware. This is not about the graphics.
I don't think people would be happy with Halo Infinite if it was just Halo 5 with the best gfx ever.
Not sure if they ever had those gameplay changes in mind that you listed OP... that said, it really depends on if this is a One title with the Scarlett in mind... or vice versa. Is it being ported down or up?
Or honestly, how much change did they even want to do to begin with? Maybe they didn't need extra HP to make those changes. I don't think the current Xbox One would limit them from doing stuff like that.
One of OP's points is that the new power would open up possibilities for gameplay changes.
Or honestly, how much change did they even want to do to begin with? Maybe they didn't need extra HP to make those changes. I don't think the current Xbox One would limit them from doing stuff like that.
One of OP's points is that the new power would open up possibilities for gameplay changes.
I think it should have been the Xbox Next game that showcased all the features of the new system. I hope the wizards are 343i make it work and I understand they want to sell as many copies as possible.
I would be very suprised if ESO 6 did that. My money is on a better looking skyrim or oblivion type game. It will run on Gamebryo and be full of bugs at launch.
Launch titles never fully take advantage of the hardware because they are being developed well before the hardware is finalized.
Because of that, I think it is completely fine to launch on both generations.
Halo Infinite, specifically, has been in development for 4 years now, 5 years by the time it launches. Xbox didn't know what Scarlett was 4 years ago.
Because of that, I think it is completely fine to launch on both generations.
Halo Infinite, specifically, has been in development for 4 years now, 5 years by the time it launches. Xbox didn't know what Scarlett was 4 years ago.
I mean obviously it'd be nice to see a full on made exclusively for Scarlett Halo game out of the gate to show off the potential power of the system, but at the same time I don't see it suffering that much from being made with the One in mind. It will definitely be interesting to see how the latter looks and performs, because I don't expect MS/343 to skimp on environmental details with that fancy new engine on the Scarlett sku.
And really at the end of the day if they can just iterate on that CE gameplay magic of dynamic open ended encounters in bigger more open-ish environments then I'll be plenty happy. Having recently replayed Silent Cartographer on the MCC in 4k @ 60 fps it still controls like a dream. For Halo as nice graphical benchmarks as some of the games were at time of release I'm still more interested in them nailing the gameplay loop and encounter design. That said I'm sure there's still going to be a good balance between the systems visually. I mean if that new jaw dropping flight sim game is supposed to come out for the base One too I don't see how we can't have a highly scalable situation with Infinite either.
And really at the end of the day if they can just iterate on that CE gameplay magic of dynamic open ended encounters in bigger more open-ish environments then I'll be plenty happy. Having recently replayed Silent Cartographer on the MCC in 4k @ 60 fps it still controls like a dream. For Halo as nice graphical benchmarks as some of the games were at time of release I'm still more interested in them nailing the gameplay loop and encounter design. That said I'm sure there's still going to be a good balance between the systems visually. I mean if that new jaw dropping flight sim game is supposed to come out for the base One too I don't see how we can't have a highly scalable situation with Infinite either.
As long as their overall vision for the gameplay isn't hampered by technical limitations I don't see an issue with putting the game on as many platforms as possible.
Games are developed for a variety of configurations nowadays, they developed with that in mind.
Games are developed for a variety of configurations nowadays, they developed with that in mind.
As much as I'd love a fully next gen Halo built to take advantage of the latest hardware, consider the state of brand. Halo is widely recognized, but its popularity has declined, with the last two games having met with mixed impressions from fans.
I think it makes sense for 343 to get as many people as possible playing and talking about Infinite as soon as it's released, which means inviting the XB1's install base to the party. If the game is great, fans who buy a Scarlett will gladly double dip. Or simply keep playing if Infinite is on Game Pass.
I think it makes sense for 343 to get as many people as possible playing and talking about Infinite as soon as it's released, which means inviting the XB1's install base to the party. If the game is great, fans who buy a Scarlett will gladly double dip. Or simply keep playing if Infinite is on Game Pass.
I say they are not making a mistake, then reading other posts I forgot about the power difference between the orig XBO, one S and One X.
Now...I'm not sure.
Develop with the One X in mind, scale back for the og XBO and One S, BC for Scarlett with enhancements.
I know it sounds easy, lol.
Maybe it should be for Scarlett only. The current gen XBO got it's own Halo, let Infinite be for next gen.
Now...I'm not sure.
Develop with the One X in mind, scale back for the og XBO and One S, BC for Scarlett with enhancements.
I know it sounds easy, lol.
Maybe it should be for Scarlett only. The current gen XBO got it's own Halo, let Infinite be for next gen.
Is a mistake for the sales of their new box but it is not for the growth of their subscription service. The game is poised to be the biggest launch in the series now that it's open to the PC audience, so making it avaliable to evey platform will help to make it a true megaton. I just hope 343 is up to the task.
As someone who is likely getting Scarlet at launch, I would have preffered it to be a next gen title.
As someone who is likely getting Scarlet at launch, I would have preffered it to be a next gen title.
Yes. Should be the damn showcase for the new console. Not some cross gen shit. Can't imagine how pissed I'd be if Horizon 2 or God of War 2 was on PS4 as well. No thanks
I think people should abandon the notion that every generation means the last generation is no longer relevant. In PC gaming, old hardware lasts quite a long time.
They want more people to pay for Game Pass so they are targeting as many Xbox consoles as possible. It's not a mistake.
I do not think you are correct in assuming that making a version of Halo Infinite for the Xbox One is hindering the version of Halo Infinite that will be available on PC and Scarlett.
i mean, it has to, its coming to xbox one lol, you know as a full physical and digital game,not just streaming lol
and its also a first party game, so they have to make sure it runs well
Unless they decided to release the game 2-3 years from now not entirely sure how they would target scarlett only, and targetting last gen systems won't hinder the game anyway
This subject has strangely gained traction recently. Its not as if PS5 is going to release with games that the PS4 couldn't run. If they release anything as exclusive for PS5 it's because they've gated it off by choice.
Nah this isn't the nineties. It can be cross generation and have a Scarlett patch that turns on more of the bells and whistles.
I don't agree, since WiiU and Switch are almost equal in power. Xbone and Scarlet are not.
For example, combat encounters will have to be tailored for Jaguar. Say goodbye to large battles or anything that hits CPU hard, since gameplay has to be equal. Heck, xbone and scarlet gamers will be able to play in this openworld with coop, so gameplay MUST be identical.
Halo Infinite is releasing on PC. Xbox One is irrelevant to any hardware limitation concerns. It will scale to the hardware it needs to.
It depends entirely on the design of the game. If developing for Xbox One limits features outside of production values, then yes.
Is it going to be open world? Does making it for Xbox One mean we should pair the size of the world or density of activities back? Will advanced A.I. play a role, like the wildlife we saw in the initial reveal? Is that possible on existing hardware?
A million little questions like those are what matter, and we still don't have any idea what the core design is. I know their creative director departed, which means their list of goals could be in a tailspin. At any point this could just revert back to being a traditional Halo game, which is what my honest bet will ultimately happen.
Rumor has it Infinite has a titanic budget too, which means it is all the more likely they scale back ambitions to maximize platform quantity and meet deadlines. Microsoft could delay it, but it is imperative they release something substantial for the release window of Scarlett, particularly given their drought of content this generation.
Is it going to be open world? Does making it for Xbox One mean we should pair the size of the world or density of activities back? Will advanced A.I. play a role, like the wildlife we saw in the initial reveal? Is that possible on existing hardware?
A million little questions like those are what matter, and we still don't have any idea what the core design is. I know their creative director departed, which means their list of goals could be in a tailspin. At any point this could just revert back to being a traditional Halo game, which is what my honest bet will ultimately happen.
Rumor has it Infinite has a titanic budget too, which means it is all the more likely they scale back ambitions to maximize platform quantity and meet deadlines. Microsoft could delay it, but it is imperative they release something substantial for the release window of Scarlett, particularly given their drought of content this generation.
Another post mentioned this too. Yeah, gotta agree. It should show they still support their soon to be last gen console well.
We haven't seen any real gameplay yet to accurately answer this. Let's wait and see some Scarlett footage, then we can dissect how much better it could be in your scenario. AND is the delta between what they have and could have had worth losing out on an already established audience? I'm going to guess no.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense to develop it for both platforms. However, if I'm looking at it purely from the perspective of getting the most amazing looking and playing game, I wish it had been a Scarlett exclusive.
I imagine that the team has to do a lot of extra work to get it to work on both platforms, and/or is leaving opportunities on the table (e.g., full integration of the SSD).
I imagine that the team has to do a lot of extra work to get it to work on both platforms, and/or is leaving opportunities on the table (e.g., full integration of the SSD).
That's an apples to oranges comparison since next gen will have backwards compatibility so people won't have to buy it twice. Sure, your GTA scenario was a genius move, but things won't work that way anymore.
Indeed. They would you rather spend £400 subscribing to GP for years than on a new console from which they make no profit.
As long as it's good it won't matter.
We haven't seen the game in action, so it's hard to say if the game seems compromised to run on 2013 machines.
But it is kind of a missed opprotunity. Like the Xbox One is pretty weak these days and dragging the hardware into 2020 will only get worse.
We haven't seen the game in action, so it's hard to say if the game seems compromised to run on 2013 machines.
But it is kind of a missed opprotunity. Like the Xbox One is pretty weak these days and dragging the hardware into 2020 will only get worse.