Nooblet

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So a bit of a background. I've lived in this place for 8 years, and about 1.5 years with my current flatmate. We're both foreign citizens living in UK, and this is our only home. However, it matters a lot more to me because my family is a lot further away and I see them a lot less...that that means anything.

I've always given her a lot of leeway in the fact that she has to pay less than the required rent (an agreement we made back when she moved in as I needed a flatmate quick), she never has to worry about bills as she pays a fixed amount even if it goes over which it often does due to her negligence and social life (friend is over a lot, using shit). But it's never bothered me. I've always have had a policy of do whatever you want, what's mine is yours, no need to ask me for permission etc...as long as the flat's clean with all my previous roommates. Since she moved in, I've had a pretty shit social life with my friends moving to different towns as we were fresh out of university, so I rarely ever got guests that she has had to deal with.

Anyways due to the current situation, my GF is at the lowest point in her life and has had to effectively move in with me for atleast 2 weeks. Admittedly, I didn't ask my flatemate for her permission if it's ok for my GF to be here, which is totally on me. But I did let her know several days in advance that she'd be coming to stay.

However, the night before, last my flatmate had some people over after their work shift ended and they were incredibly loud so I texted my flatmate to please keep it a bit down. It's the first time I've ever done something like that and apparently it ticked her off. Yesterday she went off about how it was disrespectful of me to do that because she works long hours and just wanted to relax with her workmates this one time before everyone is temporarily sent on unpaid leave (the govt will cover their salary for the time being). And she said it makes her uncomfortable that a "stranger is in the house, and I didn't ask her if she'd be ok with it. And she wants to feel comfortable in her house and not feel like her personal space is invaded". We don't make any noise, we don't use her food, my GF is barely ever out of my room when my flatemate's home, and I have my own ensuite bathroom that me and my GF use. For all intent and purpose my flatmate can potentially go by days even without bumping into my GF.

Still I get her point, but the thing is I've had to adjust my life to accommodate her over this time, and I feel she hasn't acknowledged that. We aren't friends because she works evening shifts meaning whenever she's in I'm about to go to be or I'm away, and whenever I'm in she's asleep or away. So we never get much chance to socialise, I tried to be her friend but I think my way of approaching a friendship just doesn't work in this sort of schedule and it instead comes across as self indulgent. When I said she didn't try to be my friend, she said it's because I'm a bit socially awkward which I found incredibly rude. I'm not really that even if I come across as that at first, it's just that she never really bothered with it because she always thought I just like to talk about my own life and not ask about hers (in my defense, it's how I'd start my conversations as I'd be the one going to her which means I'd have something to say, and she'd never really come to me to initiate a chat. But it doesn't mean I wouldn't ask about her life ever which she seems to think so, it's just that I wouldn't initiate with it).

Anyhow the thing is, she has had a friend over most of the days of the week for like the last whole year. They work together, then come home, cook and then her friend stays over. Some days she goes to her friend's place and some days her friend comes over. But they are always together. It's never bothered me, even if it meant I often had to leave the living room and adjust my own preferences so that they can be comfortable. She's never asked me if I had been ok with her friend staying even once as it just went without saying..which it did.


Now she's asking me to give her an exact date of when my GF leaves and the thing is, while I'm aiming 2 weeks this is an uncertain time and I don't want to promise anything. What I can make sure is that the common area is free whenever she wants to use it, and that my GF would leave as soon as it's possible. I've never asked my flatemate for anything in return and we've never had any issues or arguments. She's never had to worry about a thing living with me as I do basically all the household chores myself (she's never even once taken the rubbish out for instance).


I personally believe that I can't leave my GF to fend for herself when she's at her most vulnerable, in an uncertain climate like this. And when I told this to my flatmate she dismissed it as it being my choice and as such my problem to deal with. I just think she's being a bit unreasonable and I'd have expected a little more compassion. While I have an idea of how to talk to my flatemate about it and ask for s compromise. I feel like in difficult times like this there really may be no right or wrong view on it. But it's just an added stress.
 
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Is she on the lease? The way you describe sounds more like you subletting a room and if that's the case the minute she started giving you ultimatums and having parties when people should be in lockdown mode, yeah time for her to go.
 

amoy

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And when I told this to my flatmate she dismissed it as it being my house and as such my problem to deal with.

What the hell... your GF stays as long as necessary then. Your roommate should take a look at the current situation and think how bad it's going to get if you happened to change the rules around.

Like holy shit, I can't even :/
 

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Yeah, think you and your flatmate have reached the end of the road. From the way you've described it, she's taken all of the benefits (lower than required rent, cheap bills, unrestricted access to everything, and no qualms about friends etc over) without actually trying to put it any real effort her side such as helping with chores, giving you the freedom to have your own life in the flat too. It seems she's taken advantage of you, as you come across as not liking confrontation at all.

I'd suggest you speak to her, lay down that you are having your GF stay with you as it is your flat too, and she patently does the same without consideration of you. If she doesn't like that, ask for her to make EQUAL contributions to the bills/rent, and further request that she limit her OWN social life in the flat in the same way she is expecting you to.

My honest view is that she's not going to be happy at all with this, so I'd suggest looking into a new flat mate with ground rules and equal contribution in place, or consider moving your GF in and doing that instead, or just deal with the flat on your own.
 
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Okay so:

1. Why the hell is she having people over at this time? I know that the UK has a different set of rules regarding the issues with the whole Corvid situation. But there is still no reason to be having a party. Any one of them could of infected, you, her, your GF or each other. This is not a good thing and super negligent on her part.

2. If you were the one that has the lease on the rent, then you should have the final say in who comes and who goes.

3. You are not being unreasonable by telling her to pipe down, if she's having a party anyone that is mature would have at least put down the noise level.

4. Glad you acknowledged that you should have told your flatmate about your GF, but that still does not excuse her of her own shitty behavior.

5. Normally I would say, "Ask her to leave and see if your girlfriend can room with you." but given the situation right now, I would say that the three of you need to lay down a set of rules in regard to things going forward for the time being.

6. Have you talked to the landlord about her parties? or the neighbors?

Not much else I could think of to say about this. I'm sure others will have some better advise.
 

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De-escalate, but don't let her bully you into kicking your GF out. She seems unreasonable, but given the current situation, I'd try to make peace with her. As your text seems to be the origin of your dispute, tell her that you didn't mean to keep her from having a small party with her friends, but only be a little quieter.
Out of curiosity: How old is your flatmate?
 
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Honestly this sounds like you've been incredibly accomodating while she doesn't contribute to your common life in the flat in any way. She's in no position to demand you to restrict your social life in the flat when she doesn't do the same. She's taking advantage of you.

Either you need to set up a new set of rules where you both contribute equally to rent, chores, etc. or this seems like it won't work
 
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Is she on the lease? The way you describe sounds more like you subletting a room and if that's the case the minute she started giving you ultimatums and having parties when people should be in lockdown mode, yeah time for her to go.

I think this is important to know before anyone gives any advice. It sounds like she has a really good deal and takes advantage of that, but whether you guys are sharing the tenancy or it's yours and you sub-let to her is relevant information.

De-escalate, but don't let her bully you into kicking your GF out. She seems unreasonable, but given the current situation, I'd try to make peace with her. As your text seems to be the origin of your dispute, tell her that you didn't mean to keep her from having a small party with her friends, but only be a little quieter.
Out of curiosity: How old is your flatmate?

Also this. Try to de-escalate first. I think maybe you need to come to an agreement that she only has friends over to stay for X number of days per month, cannot have more than Y people over without getting permission from you beforehand, etc. Seems like she's kinda disrespectful, but I also think you should have asked or given her more notice that your girlfriend was moving in. But that specific point depends on whether the flat is yours or you both share, and whether this ends up being as temporary as you expect.
 

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It seems insane to me that she believes she has any right to pressure you about your girlfriend being there.
 

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"Am I in the wrong for not letting my flatmate continue treating me like a complete doormat?"
 

Grimsey

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Let me see if I have this straight:
-She doesn't have to pay her fair share of the rent
-You clean up after her
-She thinks that she and her friends have a right to make noise but this right doesn't extend to you
-She is calling you disrespectful and socially dysfunctional despite the above

...Is it difficult to find flatmates where you live?
 

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Give her a month to gtfo OP you done more than enough to be reasonable. Your flatmate shouldn't be dictating your GF arrangement in your flat that you are on the lease. Can you cover her part of the rent until you get a new flatmate?
 

astro

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So a bit of a background. I've lived in this place for 8 years, and about 1.5 years with my current flatmate. We're both foreign citizens living in UK, and this is our only home. However, it matters a lot more to me because my family is a lot further away and I see them a lot less...that that means anything.

I've always given her a lot of leeway in the fact that she has to pay less than the required rent (an agreement we made back when she moved in as I needed a flatmate quick), she never has to worry about bills as she pays a fixed amount even if it goes over which it often does due to her negligence and social life (friend is over a lot, using shit). But it's never bothered me. I've always have had a policy of do whatever you want, what's mine is yours, no need to ask me for permission etc...as long as the flat's clean with all my previous roommates. Since she moved in, I've had a pretty shit social life with my friends moving to different towns as we were fresh out of university, so I rarely ever got guests that she has had to deal with.

Anyways due to the current situation, my GF is at the lowest point in her life and has had to effectively move in with me for atleast 2 weeks. Admittedly, I didn't ask my flatemate for her permission if it's ok for my GF to be here, which is totally on me. But I did let her know several days in advance that she'd be coming to stay.

However, the night before, last my flatmate had some people over after their work shift ended and they were incredibly loud so I texted my flatmate to please keep it a bit down. It's the first time I've ever done something like that and apparently it ticked her off. Yesterday she went off about how it was disrespectful of me to do that because she works long hours and just wanted to relax with her workmates this one time before everyone is temporarily sent on unpaid leave (the govt will cover their salary for the time being). And she said it makes her uncomfortable that a "stranger is in the house, and I didn't ask her if she'd be ok with it. And she wants to feel comfortable in her house and not feel like her personal space is invaded". We don't make any noise, we don't use her food, my GF is barely ever out of my room when my flatemate's home, and I have my own ensuite bathroom that me and my GF use. For all intent and purpose my flatmate can potentially go by days even without bumping into my GF.

Still I get her point, but the thing is I've had to adjust my life to accommodate her over this time, and I feel she hasn't acknowledged that. We aren't friends because she works evening shifts meaning whenever she's in I'm about to go to be or I'm away, and whenever I'm in she's asleep or away. So we never get much chance to socialise, I tried to be her friend but I think my way of approaching a friendship just doesn't work in this sort of schedule and it instead comes across as self indulgent. When I said she didn't try to be my friend, she said it's because I'm a bit socially awkward which I found incredibly rude. I'm not really that even if I come across as that at first, it's just that she never really bothered with it because she always thought I just like to talk about my own life and not ask about hers (in my defense, it's how I'd start my conversations as I'd be the one going to her which means I'd have something to say, and she'd never really come to me to initiate a chat. But it doesn't mean I wouldn't ask about her life ever which she seems to think so, it's just that I wouldn't initiate with it).

Anyhow the thing is, she has had a friend over most of the days of the week for like the last whole year. They work together, then come home, cook and then her friend stays over. Some days she goes to her friend's place and some days her friend comes over. But they are always together. It's never bothered me, even if it meant I often had to leave the living room and adjust my own preferences so that they can be comfortable. She's never asked me if I had been ok with her friend staying even once as it just went without saying..which it did.


Now she's asking me to give her an exact date of when my GF leaves and the thing is, while I'm aiming 2 weeks this is an uncertain time and I don't want to promise anything. What I can make sure is that the common area is free whenever she wants to use it, and that my GF would leave as soon as it's possible. I've never asked my flatemate for anything in return and we've never had any issues or arguments. She's never had to worry about a thing living with me as I do basically all the household chores myself (she's never even once taken the rubbish out for instance).


I personally believe that I can't leave my GF to fend for herself when she's at her most vulnerable, in an uncertain climate like this. And when I told this to my flatmate she dismissed it as it being my house and as such my problem to deal with. I just think she's being a bit unreasonable and I'd have expected a little more compassion. While I have an idea of how to talk to my flatemate about it and ask for s compromise. I feel like in difficult times like this there really may be no right or wrong view on it. But it's just an added stress.
From what you've told us she sounds like she's taking the piss. It's possible you have helped create this situation with your allowances, but you do not need to put up with it.

Things like never taking the rubbish out is not something I'd put up with, personally. Disrespectful as hell to not pull your own weight.

What is the exact situation with the place? Do you own it, are you sub letting, or are you just responsible for managing it?

It sounds like you have the control here, though. If that's the case I think it's time to enforce that.
 
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she never has to worry about bills as she pays a fixed amount even if it goes over which it often does due to her negligence and social life (friend is over a lot, using shit)

she said it makes her uncomfortable that a "stranger is in the house, and I didn't ask her if she'd be ok with it. And she wants to feel comfortable in her house and not feel like her personal space is invaded"

OP I'm sorry but this is a bad situation that's come about over time due to decisions that you've made (consciously or otherwise) and that has now been made many times worse because of what has happened in the past few months.

If her name isn't on any contract I would be telling them to get ready to leave as soon as possible. Otherwise you're best off agreeing that she's out once things settle down.

I quoted the above bits from your post to highlight the ridiculous amount of irony that's going on here. She's able to bring work friends over but you can't have your girlfriend live with you whilst there's a full blown crisis going on?

Either get them to find somewhere else to live or suck it up until things change. Those are your choices. You shouldn't have to look to a place like this to be able to validate that decision, you should be well aware by now that this has been a dumb situation throughout the past year and a half.
 

astro

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Yeh don't kick her out now, Nooblet (not unless it gets too crazy), but do let her know that she doesn't get to dictate anything and that your GF is staying for as long as she needs to.
 
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1) I'm technically sub letting it, and while it isn't allowed by my letting agency in my case they made an exception because we went ahead and tried to put her name down on contract but the guarantor she put down came up with some issue that the agency couldn't sort out. As it stand I'm the only one on contract. She was going to stay until September, meanwhile I am staying here for a few more years. I'm the longest tenent in this whole building or the longest tenant the ageny has had for one accomodation. 8 years ! So they trust me, and this is the prime reason they were fine with the exception.

2) She did say that "I don't wanna take it up to the agency, and I don't want it to get there in the first place" But even suggesting it was disrespectful I believe. Besides she has no grounds there. At the same time the agency's guest policy is that any guest who is staying over 2 weeks is a tenent. So I have that going against me, though the agency may understand currently given the circumstances.

3) She's 28, so about the same age as me.

4) She is from Italy, and they had that party because one of her friends was going back to Italy to take care of her parents.

5) I kept quiet about the noise level and didn't want to bother them, but me and my GF couldn't sleep so I sent that text at like 3:00AM. It's reasonable and "We just wanted to blow some steam after a long day" is not really a reasonable response because it might as well have been the neighbours that complained too.

6) She isn't going to be working from next week onwards and will be staying home, and that's where her discomfort comes from. The idea that she'd be sharing space with a 3rd person who's a stranger to her. But me and my GF are totally capable of just keeping to myself, she will be in the room, or outside the house to go take a walk etc. I'm just going to use the living room in the morning to do my work and that's about it.

7) She said that she'll move out if my GF stays there, and that'd just mean I'd have to cover extra rent on top of taking care of my GF who is financially strained atm too (which is why she's moved in). But I guess this is my only option now, unless she makes compromise with it.

8) I've only just started a traditional 9-5 job, before I was just day trading and freelancing, while she's been working that job at the hotel for a year now on evening shifts, with the house being her recluse, which I understand but she said it in a tone that was like "Look you've not worked your ass off, but I did and I deserve to have this house be my quiet place".


Her main response the whole time was that it's my problem as I decided to take care of my GF, and I didn't have to since my GF is an adult and she made her own choices that led her this path. I really think the reason she doesn't empathise is because I'm not her friend. And she tells me it's because I only talk about myself, am a bit socially awkward and while I don't need to be her friend. (It's not entirely true, it's just that she's fixated on it so she doesn't remember things, I do share my life more but that only means she didn't want to share hers with mine)
 
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What the hell... your GF stays as long as necessary then. Your roommate should take a look at the current situation and think how bad it's going to get if you happened to change the rules around.

Like holy shit, I can't even :/
Sorry I meant to say choice, not house.
She said it was my choice to help my GF, and as such my problem.
 

amoy

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Sorry I meant to say choice, not house.
She said it was my choice to help my GF, and as such my problem.

It's the right thing to do, you don't turn your back on someone that needs you, how can't she wrap her head around it :/

Things aren't looking too bright for the UK right now, so yeah, I'm kind of hesitant in just saying kick her out, but if she thinks she can do better on her own, well don't hold her back.
 

Aureon

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Having people over?

Does nobody in the UK get what the fuck is going on or what?
 
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Having people over?

Does nobody in the UK get what the fuck is going on or what?
She went on about how my GF came from London, the epicentre of the virus in UK, and we wouldn't even know if she has it because of that.
Meanwhile she brought in like 8 people to the house, granted we live in Liverpool, one of them just came back from Italy like a week ago.

Double standards.
 
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considering where the uk is right now neither of you should be having anyone round incase you get the other one infected.

that being said Your flatmate is acting like an asshat and is escalating things to pressure you into not rocking to boat. I'd call her bluff.
If there was a choice for my GF to stay elsewhere she would, be it by the way of me sending her financial support and such but it was not possible and her coming in was the only option. We are both self isolating atm and not hanging out with anyone.
 

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She went on about how my GF came from London, the epicentre of the virus in UK, and we wouldn't even know if she has it because of that.
Meanwhile she brought in like 8 people to the house, granted we live in Liverpool, one of them just came back from Italy like a week ago.

Double standards.
Currently, in Italy, that's literally a crime.

Drill into her head WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON, because it's going to be her, you and your gf in that house for a month or so. And it's really best nobody catches corona, because it'll be all three if anyone does.
 
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I think she understands what's going on, but is oblivious to her own actions. And because I'm not her friend she doesn't empathise with me, she said she's aware of the possibility that it'll get worse in 2 weeks time and asked me what I plan on doing with my GF then. I said I'll figure it out.

I'll just put it out to her later today, tell her we'll keep our distance but if she's uncomfortable then she can leave if she has an alternative available and that alternative makes her more comfortable. This this is bringing out the worst in people.
 

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So a bit of a background. I've lived in this place for 8 years, and about 1.5 years with my current flatmate. We're both foreign citizens living in UK, and this is our only home. However, it matters a lot more to me because my family is a lot further away and I see them a lot less...that that means anything.

I've always given her a lot of leeway in the fact that she has to pay less than the required rent (an agreement we made back when she moved in as I needed a flatmate quick), she never has to worry about bills as she pays a fixed amount even if it goes over which it often does due to her negligence and social life (friend is over a lot, using shit). But it's never bothered me. I've always have had a policy of do whatever you want, what's mine is yours, no need to ask me for permission etc...as long as the flat's clean with all my previous roommates. Since she moved in, I've had a pretty shit social life with my friends moving to different towns as we were fresh out of university, so I rarely ever got guests that she has had to deal with.

Anyways due to the current situation, my GF is at the lowest point in her life and has had to effectively move in with me for atleast 2 weeks. Admittedly, I didn't ask my flatemate for her permission if it's ok for my GF to be here, which is totally on me. But I did let her know several days in advance that she'd be coming to stay.

However, the night before, last my flatmate had some people over after their work shift ended and they were incredibly loud so I texted my flatmate to please keep it a bit down. It's the first time I've ever done something like that and apparently it ticked her off. Yesterday she went off about how it was disrespectful of me to do that because she works long hours and just wanted to relax with her workmates this one time before everyone is temporarily sent on unpaid leave (the govt will cover their salary for the time being). And she said it makes her uncomfortable that a "stranger is in the house, and I didn't ask her if she'd be ok with it. And she wants to feel comfortable in her house and not feel like her personal space is invaded". We don't make any noise, we don't use her food, my GF is barely ever out of my room when my flatemate's home, and I have my own ensuite bathroom that me and my GF use. For all intent and purpose my flatmate can potentially go by days even without bumping into my GF.

Still I get her point, but the thing is I've had to adjust my life to accommodate her over this time, and I feel she hasn't acknowledged that. We aren't friends because she works evening shifts meaning whenever she's in I'm about to go to be or I'm away, and whenever I'm in she's asleep or away. So we never get much chance to socialise, I tried to be her friend but I think my way of approaching a friendship just doesn't work in this sort of schedule and it instead comes across as self indulgent. When I said she didn't try to be my friend, she said it's because I'm a bit socially awkward which I found incredibly rude. I'm not really that even if I come across as that at first, it's just that she never really bothered with it because she always thought I just like to talk about my own life and not ask about hers (in my defense, it's how I'd start my conversations as I'd be the one going to her which means I'd have something to say, and she'd never really come to me to initiate a chat. But it doesn't mean I wouldn't ask about her life ever which she seems to think so, it's just that I wouldn't initiate with it).

Anyhow the thing is, she has had a friend over most of the days of the week for like the last whole year. They work together, then come home, cook and then her friend stays over. Some days she goes to her friend's place and some days her friend comes over. But they are always together. It's never bothered me, even if it meant I often had to leave the living room and adjust my own preferences so that they can be comfortable. She's never asked me if I had been ok with her friend staying even once as it just went without saying..which it did.


Now she's asking me to give her an exact date of when my GF leaves and the thing is, while I'm aiming 2 weeks this is an uncertain time and I don't want to promise anything. What I can make sure is that the common area is free whenever she wants to use it, and that my GF would leave as soon as it's possible. I've never asked my flatemate for anything in return and we've never had any issues or arguments. She's never had to worry about a thing living with me as I do basically all the household chores myself (she's never even once taken the rubbish out for instance).


I personally believe that I can't leave my GF to fend for herself when she's at her most vulnerable, in an uncertain climate like this. And when I told this to my flatmate she dismissed it as it being my choice and as such my problem to deal with. I just think she's being a bit unreasonable and I'd have expected a little more compassion. While I have an idea of how to talk to my flatemate about it and ask for s compromise. I feel like in difficult times like this there really may be no right or wrong view on it. But it's just an added stress.
So sorry you have had to deal with this Nooblet
Your flatmate is being very unreasonable and the relationship is not equal anymore or give and take. Just sounds like you being taken advantage of almost.
 

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I think she understands what's going on, but is oblivious to her own actions. And because I'm not her friend she doesn't empathise with me, she said she's aware of the possibility that it'll get worse in 2 weeks time and asked me what I plan on doing with my GF then. I said I'll figure it out.

I'll just put it out to her later today, tell her we'll keep our distance but if she's uncomfortable then she can leave if she has an alternative available and that alternative makes her more comfortable. This this is bringing out the worst in people.
Are you able to apply for help with the rent/any financial aid from the coronavirus funding in this situation, is your girlfriend?
 
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Are you able to apply for help with the rent/any financial aid from the coronavirus funding in this situation, is your girlfriend?
Neither of us can because we're both internationals who are not permanent residents so she doesn't qualify for benefits. She was out of work when the coronavirus thing hit and was just about to get back to her feet but this thing delayed it indefinitely. Me on the other hand I'm already working and I can't get any aid because of that. It's an tech job so I can do most of it from home, which can cover the whole rent and expenses for both of us. It'll be tight and it'll mean I won't be paying the small debt I have of around 4 grand while this lasts which is fine I guess in the grand scheme of things. I also have the financial backing of my parents if things get really really bad but I don't want to ask them unless I absolutely have to because it'll make things a bit harder for them too.
 
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Terminate her lease. It will only get worse and worse. I'm in similar situation. How many months of notice?
As I said earlier, technically she's not on contract. Legally speaking about the only argument she has against me is that I have a guest who intends to stay longer than 2 weeks (but hasn't yet). But the letting agency is aware of that too.

So sorry you have had to deal with this Nooblet
Your flatmate is being very unreasonable and the relationship is not equal anymore or give and take. Just sounds like you being taken advantage of almost.
Yea I'm getting that feeling. I'm chill with it but if she can't and has an alternative then she can take that. It's bringing out the worst in people.
 

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Neither of us can because we're both internationals who are not permanent residents so she doesn't qualify for benefits. She was out of work when the coronavirus thing hit and was just about to get back to her feet but this thing delayed it indefinitely. Me on the other hand I'm already working and I can't get any aid because of that. It's an tech job so I can do most of it from home, which can cover the while rent and expenses for both of us. It'll be tight and it'll mean I won't be paying the small debt I have of around 4 grand while this lasts which is fine I guess in the grand scheme of things. I also have the financial backing of my parents if things get really really bad but I don't want to ask them unless I absolutely have to because it'll make things a bit harder for them too.
I think you will qualify for relief from your bank still. They put repayments on hold an freeze interest. Not sure if this is relevant for you, but if it is have you looked into that? It might help...
 
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I think you will qualify for relief from your bank still. They put repayments on hold an freeze interest. Have you looked into that? It might help...
I was going to give them a call today about that actually. The repayment was already interest free as I had one of those balance transfer things at 0% rates, but it starts to charge interest from June. If they can delay it further and freeze the need for repayment to maintain that interest free rate for the time being, that'd be nice.
 

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I was going to give them a call today about that actually. The repayment was already interest free as I had one of those balance transfer things at 0% rates, but it starts to charge interest from June. If they can delay it further and freeze repayment for the time being, that'd be nice.
My girlfriend is an EU citizen and her English bank did it for her. Not exactly sure how that all fits together, but I know a few non-English people who have done this. Hope it works out!
 
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My girlfriend is an EU citizen and her English bank did it for her. Not exactly sure how that all fits together, but I know a few non-English people who have done this. Hope it works out!
I think since I have an active job, that may work in my favour. I'll call them when I'm on lunch break.
 
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It's sorted now. I didn't have to conceded a bit to deescalate, but she acknowledges that it's important I help my GF and is ok with the compromise.

I think she was mostly pissed about not asking her and that text. I usually employ the policy of it goes without saying, and while she is the same, she believed that we were not that close to have a flatmate relationship.We cleared some other things up. And she primarily wanted some clarity on who my GF means to me, because while we've known each other for almost a year we only just started dating seriously and she wasn't really aware of it, she just thought she was my fuckbuddy who I brought in.