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Is the Avenger's theme iconic? Does it rank up there with William's Superman, Batman, and Star Wars.

Does the Avenger's theme rank among the most iconic movie themes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 637 42.8%
  • No

    Votes: 681 45.7%
  • Not now but it will be

    Votes: 172 11.5%

  • Total voters
    1,490

Feep

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Oct 25, 2017
1,088
It's that weird, really out of place song:

I vaguely remember this. I thought it was associated with Justice League.

It thematically could not be farther away from what I think about when I think of Wonder Woman. Purity, naivete, calm strength, honor.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,253
Maybe? To be honest I couldn't hum the tune outside of the part they play to finish off Avengers trailers. It's the only memorable part of the theme to me. At least I could remember the MoS theme.
 
Oct 25, 2017
228
I vaguely remember this. I thought it was associated with Justice League.

It thematically could not be farther away from what I think about when I think of Wonder Woman. Purity, naivete, calm strength, honor.
Yeah, I don't get people parading the Wonder Woman theme as a superior contemporary. The only thought that comes to mind when I hear that theme is "warrior", but that's a very small portion of Diana's character.
 
Nov 8, 2017
1,957
It's sort of iconic in its own way, but it doesn't rank up there with the likes of John Williams and whatnot. It's like a B-tier theme, the kind of thing a good number of people would recognize if you played it in public but lacks the cultural omnipresence of the truly iconic film themes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,647
There are a lot of liars in this thread who need it to be a no so they can cling onto their classics and/or anti-MCU bias. But it continues to become iconic after every single movie.

And I'd say by Black Panther 2, BP's theme will as well.
The difference is iconic themes like Star Wars and Superman transcend the need to see them. People know those even if you have never seen them. Avengers? Unless you have seen them, you'll never even know it. Even if you had, many will forget it unless you remind them. It's nowhere near the same level as Williams' stuff. It has nothing to do with clinging to classics or bias.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
13,438
That Wonder Woman theme btw is awful and doesn't fit the character at all, as depicted in the actual movie. It sounds menacing and downright evil.

It’s not even the most recognisable theme Silverstri has done.
This is now an Alan Silvestri appreciation thread.




 
Dec 29, 2017
2,599
Forget Superman and star wars themes. Just pick a random person on the streets and play the Avengers theme and this and ask them to recall the movie. The Avengers theme does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as these greats.

 
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Oct 25, 2017
5,954
Western Canada
I'm going to say yes, it is iconic. I don't think it's up there with some of Williams' best work, because I mean let's be real nothing is, but that's the closest poll option for me.

It's funny too because years ago, Every Frame a Painting released that video about how MCU music is forgettable, which soon because the opinion of everyone posting in MCU threads to tell everyone about how they don't like the MCU, and then Marvel was all like "that's nice, but now we're going to make you lose your goddamn shit by using 5 seconds of that one theme from 6 years ago in our trailer."
 
Oct 25, 2017
10,066
just realized this is the closest that anyone has come to star wars/batman/superman iconic in the last 30 years:


though having a celine dion banger version on the radio probably helped, which muddies things a bit. does circle of life count? a whole new world? let it go?

avengers and harry potter fall right below those
I would certainly put Potter above it, simply because it's not only very memorable, but was in 8 films across a decade. And by Williams, no less.


(By the way I always liked Patrick Doyle's more sinister redo for Goblet of Fire, made for the most memorable title sequence in the series)

Jurassic Park is well up there too, particularly with the Jurassic World films returning it to the public memory. Hey what do you know, another Williams.
 
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Dec 29, 2017
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I would certainly put Potter above it, simply because it's not only very memorable, but was in 8 films across a decade. And by Williams, no less.


Jurassic Park is well up there too, particularly with the Jurassic World films returning it to the public memory. Hey what do you know, another Williams.
I feel this theme is even more iconic than HP and comes close to the other greats. I don't know anyone who watches Hollywood movies who does not know this theme..
 
Oct 25, 2017
17,646
I get it, the recency of Avengers makes it blasphemous to compare it to the likes of Star Wars and Superman, but come on people, see past your own nostalgia and whatever the opposite of recency bias is.
 
Nov 30, 2017
1,596
Well what makes theme iconic? The fact when we listen to it we recognize it right away?

In that case yes.

But if we have to sit there and hum it randomly, then no superhero theme is iconic because I don’t sit there and randomly start humming any of them.
 
Oct 31, 2017
355
It's pretty much recognizable, but the problem and the conflicted opinions, I think, are because we really don't have an Avengers theme. We have an Avengers leitmotif. Outside the small epic melody, there's not anything more. People in this thread stated that the start of the theme is strange, and it goes well when the 'theme' (the Avengers melody) kicks in. As a leitmotif it works amazingly great, it reminds us of the Avengers, uplifts great moments and let us associate it with the Avengers immediately. Also, in my opinion, they learned to use it much better in later movies.

That said, I think it can't compare with older themes because Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Willow, Naked Gun, Robin Hood, The Last of the Mohicans (saying pretty different movies) had all iconic themes from start to end. Avengers has a short iconic motif, but the movies didn't start with a long iconic full theme, so they went to the short recognizable melody. It's a good strategy, but it's hard to compare it to full blown themes.

And finally, to compare it to more 'modern' movies, I think that Gattaca, The Matrix, Cloud Atlas, Interstellar, LOTR, Up... have all more memorable themes. Don't get me wrong, probably nowadays the Avengers motif is more recognizable than all of them (outside maybe LOTR), but overall in my opinion they have all better full soundtrack themes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,169
It was definitely used poorly in Age of Ultron. You hear shades of it during quieter moments (like when Tony tells the Avengers defending Earth from whatever sent the Chitauri is the real Endgame). And they tried to recreate the iconic rotating shot in Sokovia when the team defended the button that would send the asteroid hurtling toward Earth, but ultimately the best use of the song was during the credits, with the sculpture of the Avengers fighting Ultron off.

It’s used in other films though; you hear it in Homecoming and Ant-Man, when Peter and Scott arrive at the Avengers HQ, for example. In the latter case, it was the first thing that signaled to the audience where Scott was about to infiltrate.



The Avengers theme is continually one of the loudest blaring themes I’ve heard in cinema, so, nah.
It's not about volume. This means the idea is they don't want you to realize you're listening to music but to have it subliminally effect your experience.
 
Oct 29, 2017
1,910
seattle
It's trash really. Pretty bland epic score for such a tentpole series. It has recognition because we hear it so often. Put it in the dumpster next to the Catwoman soundtrack tbh
 
Oct 25, 2017
672
On the same level as Star Wars? Really? No!

Let's put it this way, how many people who HAVEN'T seen the movies know this theme?
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,980
Gotta agree with the posts in this thread saying that WHEN I HEAR IT I think it's dope and it gets me stoked... But I can't really just play it in my brain out of nowhere.

So my answer is no, even though I vastly prefer the Avengers films over Superman and Batman.
 
Nov 17, 2017
2,268
I can't remember most of the Robocop theme, either (just that one part everyone knows), but that's still a classic theme.
 
Oct 27, 2017
339
I've seen all the Avengers movies multiple times and I had to Google the theme song (video in OT is unavailable in my region). So no, I don't think it's iconic.
 
Oct 28, 2017
591
Well for almost two minutes of that link in the OP I didn't know what was going on until 1:53. That is the melody that I had in my head when I saw the thread title and at least that part of the theme is absolutely iconic.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,265
The difference is iconic themes like Star Wars and Superman transcend the need to see them. People know those even if you have never seen them. Avengers? Unless you have seen them, you'll never even know it. Even if you had, many will forget it unless you remind them. It's nowhere near the same level as Williams' stuff. It has nothing to do with clinging to classics or bias.
Those themes have been around for decades. The Avengers theme has been around for less than a decade.
Give the MCU another decade or two with the occasional $2 billion box office event Avengers movie. It's going to be just as well known.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if The Avengers theme is more well known to people under 25 than the Superman theme already.
 
Nov 8, 2017
1,087
It's the most iconic theme in the MCU, though I guess that's not saying much. Kinda unfair to compare it to themes decades old.
 

Serene

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think this is a really personal thing. Even for most of the pieces we consider "iconic" otherwise, it'll end up being a generational thing.

I know for me, someone who has grown up with the MCU, it's iconic. I can always remember it.

But it's not gonna be that for everyone.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,117
It's definitely iconic now because it's been shoved down our throat. But it's a really bland tune IMO. But it's been getting a little better per iteration as they refine it more.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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I would certainly put Potter above it, simply because it's not only very memorable, but was in 8 films across a decade. And by Williams, no less.


(By the way I always liked Patrick Doyle's more sinister redo for Goblet of Fire, made for the most memorable title sequence in the series)

Jurassic Park is well up there too, particularly with the Jurassic World films returning it to the public memory. Hey what do you know, another Williams.
the thing this movie series did the best was not getting considerably worse with more edginess
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,378
Just for fun, I chatted up a few of my coworkers. 5 women, 3 in their 20's, one in her 30's, and one in her 50's. I know they've all seen several MCU movies; we've talked about them before. I didn't mention the Avengers, just asked them to hum iconic movie theme songs.

They covered most of the big ones. Star Wars right off the top, though they started with the Imperial March (we used to play it when our former boss came into meetings) before getting the main theme. Jaws next, then James Bond and Mission Impossible (which caught me off guard by sidetracking into playing Goldeneye in college from the young ones), Harry Potter, and Rocky. Then they stalled, so I started prompting. Jurassic Park? Yes. Indiana Jones, surprisingly, no, until I started to whistle it, then they joined in. Superman, nope. One of them said Batman, but no one could hum it. Then Spider-Man, but they meant "Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can". Heh. Then they started naming TV theme songs, so I figured we were done. I asked "what about the Avengers?".

Nope. Complete blanks. The only response to that was "I didn't know it had one". I tried to play it on my phone - from this thread - but the video came up "unavailable", so I missed the chance to see if they recognized it at least.