I mean...I just don't get how that's like not subjective? And you can say the same for every iconic theme.
Okay, about 70/30 split.Survey 100 people. Ask them to listen to both themes, and ask them to name what movie each is from. I would be too money that more people would recognize the Wonder Woman theme
This is actually a good point. Memorable because of the theme or the exposure of the films themselves?This quote from a music reviewer perfectly sums up what i mean. For context he is reviewing the 2012 Avengers soundtrack, felt that Silvestri (composer) did an excellent job with captain America and was excited as fuck for the movie. But perhaps the most important thing is that he listened to the soundtrack in it's entirety BEFORE he saw the movie. So it's as close to be uninfluenced by the context of the movie as it can be, and again, he's a Marvel fan so he wants it to be good. But alas, we get...
"As luck would have it, I got a chance to have a proper listen to it before it's release. To use an over-used phrase, being like a kid in a candy store doesn't even compare to the excitement I felt as I was about to play it. Then reality hit me, and it hit me hard, with superhero strength. What is this? Why is most of the score focused on creating music that doesn't excite me at all? Why? Just listen to the first couple of cues 'Arrival' and 'Doors Open From Both Sides' and you know what I mean. It is simply not very fun to listen to, and I get a feeling that under-excited might be a better word to describe my feelings after listening to this."
"Like James Newton Howards' Green Lantern last year, Alan Silvestri's The Avengers is the biggest disappointment so far, and possibly might be all year despite it being a decent score. Most of the tracks here doesn't really interest or excite me at all unfortunately and it is safe to say that comes as a huge surprise to me, specially after Captain America last year. "
http://www.soundtrackgeek.com/v2/soundtrack-review-the-avengers-2012/
In other words, generic. The music exists for not other reason than the most vapid "GET HYPED BOOOOIIIIII". The harry potter theme and Jurassic park themes for example. Right away you know it's going for an adventure, a wistful journey. Avenges is just "GET HYPE" *CUE HORNS*
Edit: Added a second quote for context and for disclosure gave it a 71. It's just competent and forgetable
Y'all are trying waaay too hard.There isn't a single iconic theme across the MCU. Even the DCEU has the Wonder Woman theme.
Phase 1 had some good themes that they pretty much decided to all scrap after.
You hear the theme and you know where it's from. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Superman, Mission Impossible. That's the only real qualifier.I think there's possibly an argument about it being iconic, but to put it in the same league as Star Wars and Superman? There's no way it is in the same league.
Harry Potter?I don't think it's at that level but it's the closest anyone has got in the last 30 years
Fuck yeah. Is this a serious question?It actually is in your head. Do you really believe DB has trascended anime and become more mainstream? Hot topic? Game stop? A movie? Those aren't convincing stats.
You hear the theme and you know where it's from. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Superman, Mission Impossible. That's the only real qualifier.
Shit, that Moby song at the end of all those Bourne movies is practically iconic at this point.
Nothing in my quote only applied to diehards.That's not really the only scope though. Just because some diehard fan recognizes it doesn't mean it's iconic. There's another qualifier in how many people recognize it and how far it reaches.
There's also probably a difference in can you recognize it and can you hum it off the top of your head.
There are a lot of billion dollar franchises people have not heard of. One Piece is the best selling visual comic thing of all time and isn't that well known. Money =/= mainstream knowledge.Dragon Ball is literally a billion dollar plus franchise that has been popular worldwide for more than 30 years. What the hell are you talking about.
Yeah, I didn't think much of it the first time I watched the first Avengers movie, but that Avengers Infinity war trailer really used it to perfection. Now I love it.I think when I heard it on the Avengers Infinity War trailer I got goosebumps
I'm not talking about diehards.You said the only qualifier is if you hear it and you know where it's from though. I'm saying just because a diehard recognizes it doesn't make it iconic. So that can't be the only qualifier. There are other qualifiers that factor in.
I was never more sure of the theme being an all time great until I experienced this scene with a roaring applause from the audience. That's a memory I'll never forget.
The MoS theme starts off good with the piano stuff, but then just devolves into two notes being spammed again and again.
I'm not talking about diehards.
YOU applies to anyone. My mom, a random on the street, me picking 100 era users at random, just going to anyone, playing the theme and going "hey where's this from". There are certain themes you play that most if not all people will recognize. That is the qualifier.
It's not "well I recognize it, or people online do".
I just have a feeling you people are really overstating the popularity of the Superman theme. I struggle to remember it.
You're killing me with the semantics bruv. If a person at random can recognize a theme, chances are it has deep impact in the culture zeigiest. That's all I'm arguing.But that's the thing, there are other qualifiers. That's the point I'm trying to make. If you simply say does someone recognize it, then it's iconic that simply doesn't fly because someone will recognize it, especially a die hard. So there are more qualifiers such as how many people recognize it and so forth. I'm saying if you stick with just that sole qualifier, you can break the logic by pointing out an edge case. So again, it's not the only qualifier on what defines it to be iconic.
That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to say it tho.I just have a feeling you people are really overstating the popularity of the Superman theme. I struggle to remember it.
I just have a feeling you people are really overstating the popularity of the Superman theme. I struggle to remember it.
just realized this is the closest that anyone has come to star wars/batman/superman iconic in the last 30 years:
though having a celine dion banger version on the radio probably helped, which muddies things a bit. does circle of life count? a whole new world? let it go?
avengers and harry potter fall right below those