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Is "The Meg" a Kaiju movie?

  • Yep.

    Votes: 71 31.4%
  • Nope.

    Votes: 155 68.6%

  • Total voters
    226

Gundam

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,801
My friends and I have signed a blood pact, to watch every Kaiju movie that hits theatres.

So far we've watched:

Kong: Skull Island
Colossal
Pacific Rim 2
Rampage

and will of course go and watch King Of The Monsters and Godzilla V Kong.

But does the Meg count as a Kaiju movie?

Taken from the wikipedia entry, "Kaijū (怪獣 kaijū) (from Japanese "strange beast")[1] is a Japanese film genre that features giant monsters, usually attacking major cities and engaging the military and other monsters in battle."

The Megalodon was a historically real thing, as we currently understand it. A big ol' shark. A giant shark, in fact. But does that invalidate it as a Kaiju movie? Thematically, if The Meg follows the tropes of the genre, does it matter? Can you consider a giant shark a "monster"?

Near the end of the trailer, we see the meg attack a beach, so does that fulfill the wikipedia criteria of "attacking major cities?"



Bonus question: Is Peter Jackson's King Kong a Kajiu Movie, if Kong: Skull Island is?
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
16,058
The trailer really confused me regarding what kind of tone it's supposed to be going for.
 

Kuro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,533
It is my profound belief that Jason Statham does qualify as a kaiju, yes.
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Deleted member 3542

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Oct 25, 2017
4,889
It's a creature feature certainly but the fact it's not going to run into a city or cause mass destruction doesn't work for Kaiju I feel. However if there's some big fight against it with the military and it's threatening to do so then I could see it labeled as one, but I don't get that sense from the trailer.
 

MizneyWorld

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
446
Eh, I guess I'll say yes. It's "ancient" like many kaiju. It's a larger version of a regular thing like many kaiju. It attacks boats and other water-based vehicles like many kaiju. Godzilla himself can rarely go a movie without eating a boat or sub.

It's really probably just splitting hairs and could be easily argued for or against.

Kaiju or not, I just hope it's good and doesn't ruin the big budget/blockbuster shark-based horror streak we've been on the last 2 summers.
 

CrichtonKicks

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,141
I would say no. The book was inspired directly by Jurassic Park and the author just did what he could to justify the premise of a Megladon in modern day. He even tried to do pseudo-scientific stuff like Chrichton but Steve Alten isn't very talented and couldn't pull it off.
 

Ducarmel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,363
the wiki definition says its a Japanese genre, so no if we go by that!

Or is it like anime, how westerners would not call western animation anime but Japanese people call western animation anime. So the the Japanese in this context would call The Meg a Kaiju film!?


edit:I Monster film = Kaiju film
 
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Heshinsi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,089
The premise of this film is so stupid. In an ocean full of whales, why waste all that energy on the sea equivalent of popcorn chicken?
 
Oct 27, 2017
14,995
I don't think a shark film qualifies as a kaiju movie just because they made the shark in question really big. Plus - and I may have this wrong - don't kaiju movies usually concern a fictional creature? Or does that mean the original King Kong or giant octopus movies from the 50s could also be kaiju movies too?!
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
92,983
Kajiu just means monster, is a giant shark a monster? Yes, it is a kaji movie
 

passepied joe

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Oct 25, 2017
2,703
Rampage isn't a kaiju movie though. The Japanese poster calls the monsters in it kyojin (giant animals), so it's a kyojin flick. We can say safely say that Meg is merely another kyojin flick as well. :)

Stop calling anything with giant monsters/animals/whatever you want to call them "kaiju." Y'all didn't even know the word or what it was used for before Pacific Rim even came out, and judging by it's box office you didn't even watch it. :^)
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
11,865
A pointless complaint but surely it would need to be much bigger? Even as big as it is.

Also I do think that being a real historical sea creature probably should invalidate it as it's not an actual "monster" per-say.
 

More_Badass

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,621
I don't think a shark film qualifies as a kaiju movie just because they made the shark in question really big. Plus - and I may have this wrong - don't kaiju movies usually concern a fictional creature? Or does that mean the original King Kong or giant octopus movies from the 50s could also be kaiju movies too?!
King Kong is considered part of the genre
 

RedStep

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,649
PG-13 killed all my interest in this. What a waste.

To be fair, the Meg is so big that it would swallow one or more people in a single bite. No reason for it to sit and bite on people, that would be like slowly chomping a Skittle with your front teeth. And that's weird, right? I'm sure plenty of people get chomped in the movie.
 

Venture

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,584
The Meg? Holy crap what a dumb title.
A pointless complaint but surely it would need to be much bigger? Even as big as it is.

Also I do think that being a real historical sea creature probably should invalidate it as it's not an actual "monster" per-say.
Yep. This is no more a Kaiju movie than Jaws is.
 

More_Badass

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,621
A pointless complaint but surely it would need to be much bigger? Even as big as it is.

Also I do think that being a real historical sea creature probably should invalidate it as it's not an actual "monster" per-say.
At what size does it shift from real prehistoric creatures to giant movie monster? Because the shark in the trailer definitely isn't aiming for "real prehistoric creature". The real Megalodon was maybe about 60ft long, the one in the movie is movie-monster size
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Gundam

Gundam

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Oct 25, 2017
12,801
Jurassic park 2 second half is TOTALLY a kaiju movie. The next jurassic park will probably be too.

Also for OP's....


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon#/media/File:Megalodon_scale.svg

This is the real MAXIMUM size of the Megalodon.

Every single poster/trailer shows that the movie's Megalodon is AT LEAST twice that size

It absolutely counts as a Kaiju movie


This is the most compelling argument for me that it is.


What about that Anne Hathaway movje Colossal?
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C8NoJt

I posted about it in the OP, it counts I'd say.