Is there anything worse than "Cinematic injured walk" in games?

[Ebullientprism]

Aside from obvious broken games, bugs, crashes etc.

Its not a cutscene so you cant skip it. You cant step away either since the game will just stop till you press the button. So essentially you are holding down W while the game vomits exposition or "cinematic scenes" on you.

Even games with bad gameplay, controls etc let you do something. Anything.

Why is this a thing?

 

[Deleted member 8468]

I think its usually a thing to hide load times, while keeping the player "immersed" and not breaking gameplay. I'm not a huge fan either, I think Naughty Dog is both great at these scenes and has been guilty of overusing them.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

No. Genuinely, there is not. I hate it so much.

 

[Meg Cherry]

I think the only time I've enjoyed this trope is in Sleeping Dogs, where you are tortured within an inch of your life, limb around for four minutes, then immediately resume kicking ass.

 

[Jessie]

NieR Automata has a really bad one, but it's used for a really effective jump scare

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Tell me good examples instead

 

[SunBroDave]

It's bad, but not as bad as "forced insta-fail stealth section"

 

[Jawbreaker]

You mean like the beginning of MGSV?

 

[Jaymageck]

Someone got killed by Marauder Shields.

 

[Anno]

Insta-fail stealth will always be the worst mechanic, imo. This one is pretty awful too, though.

 

[Deleted member 49319]

Joel injured walking gameplay in university is good.

 

[DrArchon]

Easily the worst part of Revengeance. And it's clearly not used to hide load times or do anything interesting with the story because the cutscenes before and after cover that well enough.

It's not even like avoiding the enemies during this is interesting. It's 100% brainless and really sucks on replays.

 

[s y]

You mean like the beginning of MGSV?

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might be the worst intro i've ever played

 

[EVA UNIT 01]

Mass effect 3 flashback

 

[Panic Freak]

I hate it when a character is really injured in a scene and the character transitions back to normal when the gameplay resumes. They looked like they were just at death's door but now they are running and jumping with ease.

 

[KushalaDaora]

Forced stealth section in a non-stealth focused game. Bonus point if it's insta-fail kind of stealth.

 

[Dr Pears]

Joel injured walking gameplay in university is good.

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Oh yeah that was one of the best part of the game actually.

 

[Devilgunman]

I thought I was fine with this until I played Nier Automata. That game takes injured walking shit to another level.

 

[Ebullientprism]

It's bad, but not as bad as "forced insta-fail stealth section"

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Honestly give me that instead of the walk. At least there is gameplay there.

You mean like the beginning of MGSV?

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Easily the worst offender I can think of. It's like Kojima realised people skipped mgs cutscenes and wanted payback.

 

[CaptainK]

It's right up there with walking / driving / riding a horse along a set path at a slow pace while some dialogue with your NPC companions plays out. Boooring. Half-Life figured this out 20 years ago.

 

[KarmaCow]

Truly the worst, especially in a game like Metal Gear Rising. I would rather have a blank loading screen than have it.

 

[Morrigan]

I'm with you OP. I fucking hate it

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Honestly give me that instead of the walk. At least there is gameplay there.
Easily the worst offender I can think of. It's like Kojima realised people skipped mgs cutscenes and wanted payback.

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What would make a slow/injured wall sequence palatable or good for you? If it were a part of basic gameplay when your character gets really low health and the game proceeds normally, would that be better?

 

[Lulu]

forced walking/talk shit is literally the worst

 

[RecRoulette]

I was gonna post the Resident Evil 2 danger walk but saw "cinematic"

Completely agree with you on most counts. I think the only time I like it is when it ends a game and the character dies.

 

[Deleted member 21709]

At least it gives some context, the opening to Deus Ex Human Revolution is the worst with the forced slow-walking/talking.

 

[BadWolf]

Unskippable cutscenes.

 

[dragonbane]

Yeah they suck. The Last of Us university and MGS4 microwave scene are probably the only effective ones I can think of

 

[Rosebud]

I actually like it.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Yeah they suck. The Last of Us university and MGS4 microwave scene are probably the only effective ones I can think of

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What made the microwave hallway good though? It's a typical example of this, isn't it?

 

[Gots]

Probably the biggest reason why I haven't started a new character in Destiny 2.

I'm only half joking.

 

[lvl 99 Pixel]

Does hungover Conker count? I thought that was amusing, at least the first time

 

[RockmanBN]

Almost as bad as slow af climbing

 

[BossLackey]

I remember the first time I encountered this in the first Gears. It was immediately annoying.

 

[RecRoulette]

What made the microwave hallway good though? It's a typical example of this, isn't it?

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Literal suffering, you're continuously tapping a button for what feels like minutes.

(he should've died at the end of that sequence)

 

[Morrigan]

What made the microwave hallway good though? It's a typical example of this, isn't it?

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Indeed. People defending that one baffle me. "It totally works here", no it doesn't, "it's meant to be excruciating", just give me a damn cut scene, don't make your game un-fun to play jesus christ

 

[dragonbane]

What made the microwave hallway good though? It's a typical example of this, isn't it?

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Because it came at the very end with no other such sequence (where you just mash one button) before or after, was not overtly long (like over 3 minutes), had something else going on for you to look at and was quite effective from a character standpoint. It really did feel like mashing one button to bring Snake to the bitter end after so much build-up and save your friends you saw dying in real time in the other cutscene window. The first time where you were quite immersed in the proceedings it was very effective. Helps such sequences weren't all that common yet in 2008.

Similar reason for TLoU, which was also scripted out very well to at least give additional illusion of dynamic gameplay during it. I can tolerate them if they serve the story, are scripted out well and the story happens to be interesting. 99% of times that's not the case, so they suck and are annoying

 

[Phendrift]

What made the microwave hallway good though? It's a typical example of this, isn't it?

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well first of all it's not really a walk

For what it's worth I don't think I ever mashed a button with more emotion in any game

Really encourages you to give your all and having to just mash triangle without being able to do anything else really conveys the urgent desperation. Combined with the music and split screen cutscenes makes it one of the most memorable moments in any game for me

 

[Gestault]

I stopped playing Destiny 2 at exactly that lame, overly forced, and ineffective moment right near the beginning of the game. If the moment gets "sold" by the storytelling, I can work with it, but so many games are such rubbish in how they build the moment around it that it's a total putoff.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I wanted to die when it happened in DMCV, just don't do that shit or do it in a cutscene.

Fucking V.

 

[thepenguin55]

Yeah they suck. The Last of Us university and MGS4 microwave scene are probably the only effective ones I can think of

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Yeah context is pretty big for me because as overused and poorly implemented as it's often been, games like the ones you just mentioned use it to great affect.

 

[Breather-Resistance]

Not by a longshot.

Forced third person walking is significantly more grating. At least with cinematic injured walking there's the potential for heightening the tension or be presented in a moment of context. Meaning, there's usually something dramatic or consequential that has preceded that moment. Forced third person normal walking , on the other hand, usually has no good reason for it except to hear dialogue or exposition dumped into your ear.

Similar reason for TLoU, which was also scripted out very well to at least give additional illusion of dynamic gameplay during it. I can tolerate them if they serve the story, are scripted out well and the story happens to be interesting.

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Exactly something along these lines.

 

[Nax]

I don't understand the hate for this around here...

The only recent examples I can think of are God of War (2018) and Last of Us, and I think they both are perfect.

 

[Deleted member 8861]

I don't hate it that much. It can work, and if it doesn't, no biggie, they generally have nice visuals.

 

[ZeoVGM]

I loved that moment after the first mission in Destiny 2. I thought it was pretty effective with wounded Ghost talking to you and the amazing music.

 

[KillLaCam]

Un-injured cinematic walk is a billion times worse. Let me choose to walk slowly

 

[Claire Delune]

Not quite a cinematic injured walk, but Shattered Memories' wheelchair segment baffled me. Just... get up, dude.

 

[terrible]

It worked for me in MGS 4 and The Last of Us since it went so well with the story but other than that? Nah, get outta here with that shit.

 

[Chopchop]

I think the only time I've enjoyed this trope is in Sleeping Dogs, where you are tortured within an inch of your life, limb around for four minutes, then immediately resume kicking ass.

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That part was great. Not because of the injured sequence itself, but because the game goes "okay, fuck that shit" so wholeheartedly afterwards.

 

[Deleted member 12186]

The GeOW Phone calls were annoying.