maybe that's true sometimes, but it would not be accurate if anyone said that all video games released under heavy crunch turned out to be bad products
Well most of these threads aren't dealing directly with the root cause of the abuses that workers suffer and the indignities that are foisted upon labor. They don't get the value of their labor, they don't receive a proper compensation for the effort put in, and without democratic control of the workplace they have no voice.
It's to point out that the problem is systemic and that any reforms or things we put in place to make the issue less bad don't solve it, it just makes it less bad for some people.
So to you it's either solve all problems at once or solve nothing at all because it's "systemic" (hint: it's not).
what do you mean by success bias? because I already played & decided I loved those games before I was aware of any reports later on about those companies' crunch
They are simply saying it's possible and there is no way for you to know otherwise in most cases.
You are being purposefully obtuse here and clearly did not comprehend what they wrote. They are completely correct, crunch in US game development is primarily caused by systemic issues in the US labor market overall, fueled by the reduction of workers' rights and the reduction of the power of collective bargaining at the national level. You buying or not buying a particular game does nothing to solve that problem.
No, not plenty. Actually a tiny % compared to games which haven't got canceled so that possible outcome is much less likely.
Except there's no way that would ever happen. 90% of the people who bought red dead don't even know or care about this, and because of that knowledge, if it were to dip n sales rockstar would most certainly not point to their own practises as the problem, they'd point to the job their developers did.
I never said anything like that. My point being is it's easy to say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" and then do nothing about it in a deafeatist attitude when there are ways to fight stuff like crunch and other kinds of terrible work conditions, and in the case of the US, we have done it before. Even if "Unionize" sounds like it holds the same weight as hot air, it isn't because that alone is raising more awareness than "there is no ethical consumption under capitialism."
Acknowledging that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism doesn't mean doing nothing to improve people's lives in the current system. Obviously we need to improve labor conditions, and the way to do that is to support unionization and other labor rights initiatives, particularly with your voting power.
from my experience, crunch is a hell of a lot worse than 8AM to 10PM. it's the unfortunate nature of this industry and something needs to give.
If that's crunch then I did not crunch on my last project. In fact, with that definition, I think I've only done maybe 2 months of crunch in my career. I've done a lot of 6 day / 70 hour weeks though.
