If this true then Mark Cerny is a fuckin prophet. He foresaw the chip shortage crisis and chose RDNA1, which Miners don't want. :O
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Is Xbox Series X harder to make than PS5?
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Not...really. The PS5 has a higher clock which means its yields would also be impacted, just like XSX has larger die size which impacts yield. You could actually state either side is the "better designed" because Sony was quicker to production meaning earlier in line, however Microsoft waited for RDNA2 technology which does mean better future proofing that might be less of a need for "slim" modelling. Really we have two of the best ever console designs manufactured and no real "winner" out of them due to their amazing quality.
the ps5 boost is not the traditional boost of clocking a chip higher, is more flexible depending on load not temperature, thats why yields are not affected, shown by selling more units than ps4. while also being close in power. in reality they traded "size" for these benefits, but the xsx is big compared to traditional consoles aswell while ps5 can be used vertically/horizontaly like a traditional but bigger console.
*edit: the "size" tradeoff could also had been addressed with increased cost. they could have went with dual fans(older patent, mentioned in engineer interviews) to make it smaller but more expensive. also they could make the power supply external and have a power brick, this would also added cost while making the console smaller. however the size was acceptable with savings in production until the slim arrives.
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I still have my wario64 notifications on despite snagging both a XSX and a PS5 and i swear i see way more ps5 availability than Xbox.
From the markets we get information from (Japan, US, UK, Spain and maybe i am forgetting one) the PS5 has been selling more for some weeks now (Thus bigger supply as said both sell out what they ship)
dimensions? looks like almost double of ps5
because even if it is , it doesn't look like a meaningful difference
The PS5 chip is clocked at a higher speed though, it just has firmware for controlling those speeds based on temperature. Much like my AMD software can control my GPU's speed based on temperature. This would most definitely mean yields can be affected by the need for high speed limits, though we know both parties are facing yield issues alongside silicon competition. I'm not quite sure that I get you on the size comparison though, and especially when both consoles can be used vertically or horizontally.
Even a centimeter will make a difference when packages on container ships. Anyway... that was just a silly extra I mentioned, if you can't make them, you cant put them on boats.dimensions? looks like almost double of ps5
because even if it is , it doesn't look like a meaningful difference
the ps5 wouldn't be 2ghz with traditionally clocking, its load depended this makes it easier to yield. they clocked it higher instead of 1.8ghz using bigger cooling and power supply and the resulting size its not a big problem compared to other similarly powered consoles.
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I'm not saying MS consoles aren't quiet, I just find it funny how some over exaggerate the 'PS5 is loud' claims, when in fact it is pretty quiet.
MS consoles are better in that respect though, especially the Series X.
After initial production, how it affected production later?
There are lots of complains for noisy xsx disc drives, it makes noise when reading drives so i dont know how ppl claim it makes no noise. The ps5 issue is reading the drive without using a game, could be patched