View: https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/1789721986525979027
I mean if the US actually had that info, wouldnt they have shared it anyways?
View: https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/1789721986525979027
I mean if the US actually had that info, wouldnt they have shared it anyways?
Baftas were on earlier, Channel 4/Yousef Hammash won for their Gaza coverage
View: https://twitter.com/YousefHammash/status/1789746550890991964
View: https://twitter.com/YousefHammash/status/1789746550890991964
They probably pushed their sources over the past while (or used resources on the ground or around Sinwar) to get this info, and we do not know the cost of it. I doubt the US was sitting on specifically this but do remember that allies do not share all intel with each other unless urgently necessary because there's always a risk of leaks.
The irony in discrediting the entity that gave you a state.
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My sister was just contacted by her daughter's teacher. The mom and dad of a student in her daughter's class is stuck in Gaza and can't get out.
The parents have a 5 and 3 year old and a 7 month old.
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This shit is making it real easy to not want to be part of this site any longer.
Last month was a grotesque embarrassment, emblematic of just how comfortably people will go to drown out Palestinian voices. And not much has changed.
What the fuck is this bullshit. Especially THIS part. There are PLENTY of polls showing otherwise. The Israeli state DEPENDS on the propaganda and child to soldier pipeline that is the IDF and it's birthright funding of Jewish people with ZERO roots to Israel to help establish a greater "force".
There are PLENTY of Jewish people (especially Orthodox Jews, see next quote) in Israel that despise what the government is doing, but to say that the popular opinion wasn't one of conflict? That's outright bullshit.
Example here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0njOPNr8K0
The way the general public views the criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic, but literally attacking Jews isn't, is absolute bullshit.
Do mods have a time limit for how long they can be a mod so that new people can be brought into the moderation pool instead of having the same people for years?
Heads up I would edit out the students' name out of respect for their confidentiality (unless this is something that was released 100% publicly).
Frustrated by Gaza Coverage, Student Protesters Turn to Al Jazeera
It's admittedly funny seeing the New York Times report on how college students dislike them over the Israel coverage lol. It's good that they highlighted this disparity at least.
i missed the exodus, but still so sorry richter & other community members couldn't find a safe place online during these horrors, our palestinian & muslim members deserved better
aside from local work, i've tried to find solace in the student encampments & radicalization of so much of our youth seeing the links between the police state & isreali colonialism, etc. as a member of the irish-palestinian solidarity campaign, there's been a lot of good work done over there as well
i just came off a one month ban for simply pointing at the NYT's history of carrying water for fascists, which as framed as "concern trolling in a thread about neo-nazis", an impressive feat of mental gymnastics & as an antifascist, pretty funny as well
i would like to share your optimism, but given the amount of minority groups chased off of here and the complete silence (beyond a thread title change?), i'm not even seeing the vague gesture of doing better this time
for what it's worth, i tried posting in the community feedback thread about community concerns for islamapobia, and even when trying to make the case without pointing at names & such, i was threadbanned from the only resource i'm aware of to raise such concerns. other members outright questioning specific bans did not seen as actionable, because as spman2099 highlighted, there are different rules for muslims & socialists on here, and some in our moderation team would very clearly rather continue seeing this exodus than address these issues in good faith
aside from local work, i've tried to find solace in the student encampments & radicalization of so much of our youth seeing the links between the police state & isreali colonialism, etc. as a member of the irish-palestinian solidarity campaign, there's been a lot of good work done over there as well
i just came off a one month ban for simply pointing at the NYT's history of carrying water for fascists, which as framed as "concern trolling in a thread about neo-nazis", an impressive feat of mental gymnastics & as an antifascist, pretty funny as well
i would like to share your optimism, but given the amount of minority groups chased off of here and the complete silence (beyond a thread title change?), i'm not even seeing the vague gesture of doing better this time
for what it's worth, i tried posting in the community feedback thread about community concerns for islamapobia, and even when trying to make the case without pointing at names & such, i was threadbanned from the only resource i'm aware of to raise such concerns. other members outright questioning specific bans did not seen as actionable, because as spman2099 highlighted, there are different rules for muslims & socialists on here, and some in our moderation team would very clearly rather continue seeing this exodus than address these issues in good faith
Good call. I'm not sure if it was or not.
I pray hell isn't the only thing waiting for those who did this. Those who act like Oct 7th is the end all be all about civilian's being targeted aren't genuine in their belief of human rights.
Israeli forces issue evacuation orders for Kuwaiti hospital in Rafah
Gaza authorities say health system on the verge of collapse
Fierce clashes as Israel sends troops back into Jabalia in north Gaza
Palestinians fleeing Rafah have nowhere safe to go as Israel intensifies air, ground attacks in north and south of Gaza.
Israeli forces step up attacks on Jabalia camp and Rafah in Gaza
The tweet is there if you click on the link, but here what it says:
Ah, my bad. Thank you! Also for providing us with all this information.
I live in Germany and I am trying to contribute to the conversation, but it's tough. Too many people are so quick to label any criticism "antisemitism", it's frankly disgusting how so many are taking the easy way out instead of critically engaging with the human rights violations in Palestine/Israel.
Yeah I have seen how tough it is to criticize Israel in Germany. The media and the government are pro-Israel to the bone, probably more so than any other western country.
Feels like a century ago when we were told Israel will never attack a hospital, now it is a a norm and does not even register anymore
Not only attack but methodically target, and then go back and attack again.
Rafah should be the last straw for Egypt but I'm not getting my hopes up. I just want some kind of accountability for all this.
That is the most mindboggling part, the whole world can see what is going on and still Israel cannot be held accountable because of the U.S . I have lost what little faith i had in any international institutions. this is beyond fucked up, none of this shouldn't have occurred in the first place.
This is why I go to protests and rallies in my state when I can. As an American, I feel like it's my duty to protest my government making this genocidal state invincible. Where is the "red line?" What will it take to stop blindly supporting Israel and parroting their propaganda? It feels like screaming into the air at this point.
I understand and share the sentiment, i wish they was something i could do. If anything, my country for once, my country is on the "right side" oh history (South African here)
there was never a red line ... the sooner people realize that the better. One would say Biden's administration keeps on moving the goalpost, but the reality is there was never a goal post. He is fully behind the ethnic cleansing and genocide we are all witnessing... anything else coming from him/his administration is just diversion
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It makes sense why the younger generation is increasingly seeking additional news sources. NYT editorial recently put out an article spewing the same tired misrepresentations of the protests and repeated all of the talking points. And I wonder why the youth hates the NYT?
Traditional MSM has been absolutely dogshit, especially with their student protest coverage. Its also led to Twitch streams becoming the go-to place for a lot of young people to get news updates.
Biden and democrats like Chris Murphy are too busy telling people that there would be a ceasefire if Hamas released the hostages.
Looks like Hamas accepting US mediated ceasefire proposal left the news cycle in the blink of an eye. Not surprised.
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I mean, what happened last time mostly was that although some problematic bans get get reversed and the mod in question stopped posting, there was no in thread followup comment and afaik nothing really changed on that front. I had a feeling things would continue bc of that unfortunately.
View: https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1790015282490101762
Just a normal day in Israel. A group of losers destroying Palestinian aid and the IDF does nothing. Got any of them hollow sanction threats there Biden you useless sack of shit?
The thing with the war crime of using starvation as a weapon against a population is that it's usually hard to prove. The usual trick is just "inspections" that take an indefinite amount of time, that give cover to plausible deniability. But openly destroying supplies makes it pretty obvious what they're doing (or condoning).
I don't think it's hard to prove at all and even then proof of war crimes hasn't really mattered. The IDF have killed hundreds of aid workers and blown up many aid trucks. These demons have been allowed to protest by blocking trucks for months. CNN has done multiple reports on them. Sanders said this back in February.
Biden is so far past plausible deniability in every faucet of this ethnic cleansing. This genocide is a partnership event between the west and Israel.
This Hasan quote is 100% spot on:
Mainstream media are pretty much useless on this sort of stuff.
Israeli authorities have no problem suppressing and spraying skunk water on anti-Netanyahu protesters (including hostage family members demanding a deal) in Tel Aviv, but they're obviously powerless against these fascist scum.
Fighting Flares Across Gaza Amid Push to Revive Israel-Hamas Talks
Pentagon official quits over US support for Israel's war in Gaza
Pentagon official quits over US support for Israel’s war in Gaza | Semafor
The official, who worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency, tendered his resignation over the US’ “nearly unqualified support” for Israel.
www.semafor.com
A related take from a historian of Zionism:
View: https://twitter.com/arnondeg/status/1790055085898109292
I've been arguing for this whenever I come across liberal Zionists claiming the ideology should not be linked to the worst behavior of an increasingly larger part of its proponents. How many atrocities are needed before you can dismiss the whole movement over this kind of action? Neither White supremacism nor Serbian nationalism (to name two examples) get to have a free pass with the "rotten apples" argument, and the boat has long since sailed for Zionism. You don't simply get to destroy humanitarian aid intended for civilians without repercussions unless you're a beloved (and intended to exist) part of the system.
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Wow, the latest ban against Nola is outright disgusting. The administration might as well come out and say they just want opinions pre-approved by White liberals. What a joke of a forum! Is it the problem that we're too brown for your tastes? Y'all haven't even had the decency to show up your faces around here to apologize after your latest pathetic stunt and here we are again with the same BS...
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AMERICAN MEDICAL MISSIONS TRAPPED IN GAZA, FACING DEATH BY DEHYDRATION AS POPULATION CLINGS TO LIFE
American Medical Missions Trapped in Gaza, Facing Death by Dehydration as Population Clings to Life
Upward of 20 American doctors are trapped in Gaza, some at the European Hospital, due to Israel’s post-invasion closure of the Rafah border crossing.
theintercept.com
The UN vehicle that got hit a few hours ago was apparently on a mission to rescue the doctors.
I've seen polls that show the overwhelming majority of Israelis support the genocide in Gaza... White liberal genocide apologists are trying to silence people like Nola for speaking the truth.
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Yup, they are among this group.AMERICAN MEDICAL MISSIONS TRAPPED IN GAZA, FACING DEATH BY DEHYDRATION AS POPULATION CLINGS TO LIFE
American Medical Missions Trapped in Gaza, Facing Death by Dehydration as Population Clings to Life
Upward of 20 American doctors are trapped in Gaza, some at the European Hospital, due to Israel’s post-invasion closure of the Rafah border crossing.
The UN vehicle that got hit a few hours ago was apparently on a mission to rescue the doctors.
Biden is a sack of shit.
FAJR Scientific on Instagram: "We are witnessing mass casualties at an unprecedented scale in Gaza. While the situation worsens, our medical team is working tirelessly to bridge the needs of the local staff and community despite extreme supply shorta
fajrscientificus on May 12, 2024: "We are witnessing mass casualties at an unprecedented scale in Gaza. While the situation worsens, our medical team is working tirelessly ...".
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The one in the glasses is the mother of the children. Both of the parents are anesthesiologists.
FAJR Scientific on Instagram: "This is FAJR Scientific’s team in Gaza right NOW! Despite the conditions of Rafah, our team stays resilient and determined to do all they can for the people of Gaza. They are exemplifying what real life superheroes look
fajrscientificus on May 9, 2024: "This is FAJR Scientific’s team in Gaza right NOW! Despite the conditions of Rafah, our team stays resilient and determined to do all th...".
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The parents are the two on the bottom of the first slide.
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Really upsetting footage at the start of this report
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98dBYg32UuI
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98dBYg32UuI
At this stage I found a child being rescued from rubble a nice thing to watch.
Top Biden official doubts Israel can achieve 'total victory' in Gaza
Yeah, but if you can't stomach a vote for Biden, you're as bad as Trump. Don't you know what Trump would do?
That's how so many people talk, including here. God forbid the people asking for a non-genocide candidate voice their opinion without a bunch of holier than thou liberals show up on your doorstep telling you how it isn't Joe's fault and how much he's privately upset.
People do this because they're scared shitless at the possibility of a second Trump term.
Rightfully so.
Biden's complete alienation of the Arab American community is frightening. I mean, can you blame anyone for not wanting to support someone making your people's aggressor become nigh invincible to all consequences? Trauma makes people make emotional, irrational decisions and that's exactly what's happening with the vote uncommitted crowd.
Anyway, let's not derail the thread with US election stuff or risk getting a warning or ban or whatever.
Still have people saying this isn't a genocide even with the aid trucks being sabotaged, the ceasefire talks being sabotaged, the horrific Rafah footage… and some people really don't believe any of the news that says anything bad about Israel. And to go around and twist it so that wanting the violence to end is actually anti-Semitic is the most twisted thing of all. My entire family has drank that Kool-Aid at this point.
Malcom X made these statements during his time in the Nation of Islam and he died 60 years ago prior to the to the 'Southern Strategy' being established and utilized, which vastly changed the leanings of Democrats and Republicans and is the point that the GOP squarely became the party that used race as a bullhorn to get votes.
Point being - this quote is is often used to paint the current political landscape with a 'both sides are bad' view which ignores all nuance and context of when he said it and what changed in his life and in the world after he said it. Would you quote his statements about MLK Jr and the March on Washington, or his and the NoI's views on the separation of White and Black Americans, or their stance on voting at the time as justification for a viewpoint? Those happened around the same time as his quote, after which he went through a rapid shift to supporting the Civil Rights Movement and MLK Jr's part of it. He was a much different man just two years later when the NoI (and potentially government elements) helped assassinate him.
I'm loathe to roll out any quote from a historical figure to justify any situation for the very simple reason that we can't know how those people would feel in modern contexts. I prefer to leave them in their time and context. While I don't doubt the man would be supportive of Palestinians I have no idea how he'd feel about anything else unless he rises from the dead and gives a speech.
That's the same sort of logic that would be used to justify calling all Palestinians terrorists:
Palestinian poll shows a rise in Hamas support and close to 90% wanting US-backed Abbas to resign
The findings signal more difficulties for the Biden administration’s postwar vision for Gaza and raise questions about Israel’s goal of ending Hamas’ capabilities.
apnews.com
Hamas *are* terrorists, including against their own people. The IDF *are* committing war crimes at the behest of Bibi/Likud/Israeli Government.
I'm not willing to paint those who are not supporters of Hamas or the Israeli Gov as supporting genocide - those people are the key to breaking the cycle of violence and need to be supported.
Not necessarily - If the info revealed anything about US intelligence sources or capabilities that didn't want to be revealed, or the info was classified above a certain level, or the judgement was that sharing it was outside US interests (eg that his specific location could result in Israel doing something the US wanted to avoid, such as another embassy [well, embassy compound] attack) then they might be hesitant to share. Intelligence sharing has a whole extra bucket of red tape to go through, and there are some immensely strict rules about interacting with 'allies' even at lower clearance levels, because not every 'ally' is a friend.
The shadow of Jonathan Pollard no doubt plays a part as well.
Going back to those additional provisional measures that were issued by the ICJ on March 28:
South Africa writes, in its May 10th request for even further provisional measures:
Meanwhile, Human Rights Watch documents a relevant pattern, in a new May 14th publication:
Gaza: Israelis Attacking Known Aid Worker Locations
Israeli forces have carried out at least eight strikes on aid workers’ convoys and premises in Gaza since October 2023, even though aid groups had provided their coordinates to the Israeli authorities to ensure their protection. Israeli authorities did not issue advance warnings to any of the...