It appears no one at Xbox has actually promised every XB1 game will be allowed to boot on Series X yet

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rebelcrusader

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From this to Schreier's twitter "it really is the best console ever" it really has been an embarrassing time
 

Baked Pigeon

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I’m willing to bet Spencer’s comments were taken out of context. They plan on having every game playable on the Series X, but maybe they are just going through the QA for each title a little at a time. This thread is just......sad.
 

kc44135

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"For the next generation, the team knew from the outset that they wanted to double down on compatibility. That vision helped influence the design of the system and, through a combination of hardware and software, they committed themselves to ensuring the thousands of games on Xbox One, including Xbox 360 and original Xbox games, will play even better on Xbox Series X."

It's literally a pillar in the Monday press release. They even promised they'd play better
This is all I want, and what I was expecting. If they do deliver on all of this I would be very happy. So consensus is OP is wrong then? MS will have full BC with X1?
 

Okabe

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Bruh close this thread . You literally have someone from Xbox /thread'ing the statement from the OP
 

Xiofire

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New generations are wild. Just buy the plastic game box you want, it doesn't have to be a feature for feature comparison at every step.

Sure the PS5 is weaker and doesn't have the same level of back compat, but it's still probably going to have great exclusives and all the Japanese games that never find their way to Xbox.

There is no need for shit flinging threads and "ACKCHEWALLY" rhetoric at every feature announcement.
 

Linkeds2

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If you go and listen to the actual interview rather than the Gamespot summary, at 20:07 is where you begin to hear OP's phil quoted conversation begin.

And the way the conversation flows, is that it opens up with speakers asking him about taking XSX home, why does he choose XSX as his primary home console rather than X1S or X1X. Then, Phil says that

"i'm trying it, and, and,its in development, sometimes it reboots"

So when you have context (wheres Schreier?)of the conversation in which he made the statement, it is more about testing XSX as a developmental console, not specifically that he is testing Backwards Compatability and games are making it reboot.

You can assume that he is still experimenting with features (BC included) and that the final launch product will be fixed and designed to be 100% BC. You can safely assume that from the actual audio.
 

boxingiscool

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This is all I want, and what I was expecting. If they do deliver on all of this I would be very happy. So consensus is OP is wrong then? MS will have full BC with X1?
It's the same architecture as Xbox One. Same UI (for now). So everything will run. In addition to game pass and the INCREDIBLE amount of games I have access to for only an additional $120/yr (without deals; technically $180 total with ultimate but I'm assuming you already have XBL for year), it's looking tight. I will get PS5 after I get taxes back in 2021 OR just buy the exclusives on my PC. I'm in no hurry. I'd wager PS5's first exclusive will be in 2021 with COVID anyway.
 

WarioLuigi22

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Why not take it from Rich?


"AMD has worked with Microsoft to deliver full hardware backwards compatibility with current gen systems. Untouched, Xbox One and Xbox One X code will run natively on Series X..."

I mean, sure, he's not Phil, but why would he claim this in no uncertain terms if it wasn't communicated by MS?
I'm waiting for someone to claim DF isn't a trusted source or something.
BAD didn't respond to this in the previous thread, I'd love to hear their take on DF's claim.
Hey BAD are you going to respond to this or ignore it again like in your previous thread that was locked a few hours ago?

"AMD has worked with Microsoft to deliver full hardware backwards compatibility with current gen systems. Untouched, Xbox One and Xbox One X code will run natively on Series X..."
 

kc44135

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It's the same architecture as Xbox One. Same UI (for now). So everything will run. In addition to game pass and the INCREDIBLE amount of games I have access to for only an additional $120/yr (without deals; technically $180 total with ultimate but I'm assuming you already have XBL for year), it's looking tight. I will get PS5 after I get taxes back in 2021 OR just buy the exclusives on my PC. I'm in no hurry. I'd wager PS5's first exclusive will be in 2021 with COVID anyway.
Yeah, Gamepass is for sure incredible. I think I even heard they will offer DLC now too? That's nuts man. Well, if they keep delivering on GP, and can deliver on BC as they're promising, they will have won me over come launch.
 

oni_gank

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XBox has BC, PlayStation has BC. That's all I care...both are in active developments, to add more titles along the road.

Expecting all from your old library of games to work 100% on either PS5 or XBOX seriesX (even so at launch), is a nice dream to have.

But It won't happen.
 

Fisty

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Hey BAD are you going to respond to this or ignore it again like in your previous thread that was locked a few hours ago?

"AMD has worked with Microsoft to deliver full hardware backwards compatibility with current gen systems. Untouched, Xbox One and Xbox One X code will run natively on Series X..."
If you can get Rich to say that MS will definitely have every single XB1 game working on XSX, I will eat my hat. Besides, he's not an MS employee.
 

neoak

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Hey BAD are you going to respond to this or ignore it again like in your previous thread that was locked a few hours ago?

"AMD has worked with Microsoft to deliver full hardware backwards compatibility with current gen systems. Untouched, Xbox One and Xbox One X code will run natively on Series X..."
Seems that as long as he ignores this, thread stays open.
 

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It is really quite startling how many people of a certain persuasion are willing to so easily call Schreier biased literally a week after he blasted their most successful development team for crunch.
Wow, how conclusive, he blasted them for poor working conditions, he can't be a PlayStation fan, nope siree!
 
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People are defending Microsoft as if Sony isn’t planning to support EVERY PS4 game eventually. Everyone saying that XSX will play EVERY Xbox game at launch will it crow!

However, can everybody please stay calm, and wait! I bet that within the first year of both consoles you will be able to play the majority if not all BC games.
Historically Microsoft have continued to try and achieve a huge swath of BC games in the past.

Sony dropped PS2 on PS4 like a hot steaming turd and hand waved it as not important when sales didn’t pick up. Oh they also tried to charge for it.
 

ObbyDent

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No one has receipts. No one from Xbox has said, definitely, in official capacity, that 100% works. Which is fine. 100% will never be possible. Sony has no where even close to 100%. But everyone acting like it is 100% is silly to me.
 
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Come on now. 99% of Xbone games will work on Xbox Series X, we all know it, Microsoft has talked about it again and again, and they've put their money where their mouth is wrt BC over the past few years. This concern is unfounded.
 
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Hey BAD are you going to respond to this or ignore it again like in your previous thread that was locked a few hours ago?

"AMD has worked with Microsoft to deliver full hardware backwards compatibility with current gen systems. Untouched, Xbox One and Xbox One X code will run natively on Series X..."
I can’t watch this right now but who are you guys quoting from the video? I don’t know who they interviewed from Xbox the way you summarized it. People in here didn’t read the OP and keep quoting the pre-backtrack post from a member here. Don’t know what DF credibility (I’m aware they’re credible) has to do with it since Gamespot is also a credible outlet and said this last month:
In a blog post penned by Xbox boss Phil Spencer, he states that the Xbox Series X will encompass four generations of gaming. The post explains that all currently backwards compatible titles from the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 will be brought forward to the Xbox Series X, while Microsoft is still compiling the list of Xbox One games that will be backwards compatible on day one.

So please, what are credible outlets agreed upon Xbox themselves saying?
 

neoak

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I can’t watch this right now but who are you guys quoting from the video? I don’t know who they interviewed from Xbox the way you summarized it. People in here didn’t read the OP and keep quoting the pre-backtrack post from a member here. Don’t know what DF credibility (I’m aware they’re credible) has to do with it since Gamespot is also a credible outlet and said this last month:


So please, what are credible outlets agreed upon Xbox themselves saying?
DF has an actual hands on with the console dude.
 

WarioLuigi22

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I can’t watch this right now but who are you guys quoting from the video? I don’t know who they interviewed from Xbox the way you summarized it. People in here didn’t read the OP and keep quoting the pre-backtrack post from a member here. Don’t know what DF credibility (I’m aware they’re credible) has to do with it since Gamespot is also a credible outlet and said this last month:


So please, what are credible outlets agreed upon Xbox themselves saying?
Lol come on dude
 

Eeyore

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Wow, how conclusive, he blasted them for poor working conditions, he can't be a PlayStation fan, nope siree!
Well there's that and his long history in the industry where he has shown no bias. But perhaps you're right, this is all a big conspiracy where Jason has been biding his time for years only to come out and show his true colors to placate console warring at this point in time for some unexplained reason. Or you and people that believe similarly need to stop projecting and grow up.
 

TheZynster

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reaction thread to PS5

Also Sparty already confirmed every single game playable on the xbox one currently will work............
 

Prine

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100% of the games you want to play on Xbox will be BC. Not just top 100 most played OP.
 

neoak

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They didn't test every XB1 game for it, and I'm pretty sure MS didnt tell them all the titles currently work or 100% of games will work. They can chime in if they feel they can clear things up
"Beyond that, the Xbox back-compat team have been hard at work since drawing the line under their Xbox 360 and X-enhanced program a while back. It likely comes as no surprise to discover that Series X can technically run the entire Xbox One catalogue, but this time it's done with no emulation layer - it's baked in at the hardware level. Games also benefit from the full CPU and GPU clocks of Series X (Xbox One X effectively delivered 50 per cent of its overall graphics power for back-compat), meaning that the more lacklustre of those performance modes added to many Xbox One X games should hopefully lock to a silky smooth 60fps."



What does that have to do with anything? They didn't test every game not did they claim that 100% all games work. Enough with the petty warrioring Ivysaur
LMAO
 

ryan299

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it will be like 360 bc and will depend on pubs. Some are going to say no so they can sell remasters.
 

Fisty

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"Beyond that, the Xbox back-compat team have been hard at work since drawing the line under their Xbox 360 and X-enhanced program a while back. It likely comes as no surprise to discover that Series X can technically run the entire Xbox One catalogue, but this time it's done with no emulation layer - it's baked in at the hardware level. Games also benefit from the full CPU and GPU clocks of Series X (Xbox One X effectively delivered 50 per cent of its overall graphics power for back-compat), meaning that the more lacklustre of those performance modes added to many Xbox One X games should hopefully lock to a silky smooth 60fps."

Did you read what you bolded? Yes the games can "technically run" doesnt mean they arent buggy, run at 3fps or cause crashes (which Phil specifically says some games he's been trying cause reboots)
 

Gundam

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Console Warz in effect.

I just hope they start showing some fuckin games already because I can barely handle gaming side right now.
 
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