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immortal-joe

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did not think for a second that this was a thing. like. I know porn can have some surface level step sibling shit but not in a million fuckin years did I think people shipped siblings. at all. ever. like.

and now there is anime about finding out your sister is a fuckin sex fiend and "admitting their true feelings for each other" LIKE WHAT THE FUCKSDHJKL;SDFGAJKL;SDFJKL;ASDFJKL;SDFJKL; SDF IJL;SDF WHY.

My little Hobbes can't be this innocent.
 

SuzanoSho

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Dec 25, 2017
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how in the god damn fuck is shipping SIBLINGS. LITERAL FAMILY. A FUCKING THING.
Welcome to the internet? Stay away from any fandom that has anything to do with Asia and animation while you're at it, the communities tend to crank the already disturbing creepiness up to 1000 for some reason...

It's kinda gross writing this off as just shipping seeing as the idea that a lesbian just hasn;t met the right guy is incredibly harmful leading to things like "corrective" rape.
I'm so glad SOMEONE else was thinking this. The fact that people don't take stuff like this seriously, because it's "the norm", is exactly what I imagine the LGBTQ community is trying to change...
 

Eumi

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Nov 3, 2017
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Eh, people are sparing you of the worse shipping form... Dad + Daughter. But don't worry, it's just the stepdad who knows and raised the girl all her life, it's not wrong

Oh, how wanted to forget some things I saw in anime fandoms and be a little purer again...
Every time I think about Usagi Drop a little piece of my soul crumbles away, and I'm not sure how much of it is left to die.

It's not even vaguely related to the thread at this point since it has absolutely nothing to do with shipping. I just bring it up because maybe if I share the horror my own burden will be lessened.


Okay but actually on topic though, I'm not sure why this is an issue since the OP doesn't explain it great. People alter the sexualities of characters to fit their ships all the time, and bi people exist and deserve just as much shipping representation as anyone else. Is there an element to this that makes it uncomfortable, like, are people actively denying her attraction to women?
 

VN1X

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Oct 28, 2017
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Nothing really happening here OP? Definitely nothing "disgusting"?
 
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Jakisthe

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was this thread unironically the first time someone found out siblings getting shipped was a thing? I mean, not to be rude, but how does anyone with who spends any amount of time online at all not know that? Or even offline. Fanfiction is just barely younger than the idea of fiction in the first place, and incest has been the talk of rumors and stories for literally centuries.
Annnnnyway, back on topic. Those thumbnails were faaaaar tamer than I thought it was going to be - I was imaging some truly terrible "and she likes girls ewwwwwwww" stuff. Comments are always as bad as possible though, that tracks.
 

Greywaren

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Jul 16, 2019
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I mean, does she explicitly state that she's a lesbian? She could be bi and there would be absolutely nothing wrong with this.
 

Kaguya

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Hmm... Didn't knew this was considered toxic! I see fan shipping outside in lore sexual orientation all the time(mostly the reverse of what's happening in this thread), role of thump is to always keep away from fan shipping discussion unless you know you're ready for what you're getting into.

For anyone interested though, you can start with Chris(from Resident Evil) being gay stuff, it has been a golden source for memes and fan art. :)
 

Albatross

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Nov 11, 2017
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Lesbians and bisexual women suddenly falling for the male protagonist / self insert after their female lover dies because he's so cool is VERY standard writing for all kinds of mainstream fiction, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was intended and they end up together in the sequel.

And often the lover doesn't even need to be dead, it's just outright cheating like with the lesbian couple in Days Gone...
 

residentgrigo

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Oct 30, 2019
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Well Hobbes. Don´t get into anime, incest is a pretty big fetish there. Even in mainstream shows. Ah good old Evangelion you really fucked the industry, didn´t you. The mangaupdates database has used the tag incest 2684 times as of today. 677 entries were left after I subtract hentai but I left in Yaoi. (The Yaoi and Yuri scene love incest.) The real number is higher if I consider the other incest tags, some people need to be really particular in the categorization of their fetishes. And then are all the manga that weren´t tagged properly as of now or aren´t part of the database. I could go on all day...

Back to Star Wars. Shippers can´t be reasoned with and this is likely only the tip of the iceberg. Especially if the game´s story connects with enough people.
Edit: I realized that you don´t even need to dig all that far for let´s say interesting justifications after I caught up with this thread.
 
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Shark

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Oct 28, 2017
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And often the lover doesn't even need to be dead, it's just outright cheating like with the lesbian couple in Days Gone...
There was no cheating in Days Gone. Not even a kiss. Just a realistically portrayed, extremely brief moment of mutual attraction between two people that have known each other for a long period of time.
 

Hexa

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe I'm misinformed, but aren't there also explicit incest overtones in how he discovers she's an otaku?

Yes but also no. There are explicit overtones but not in terms of her brother perving on her, which she finds gross at that point. Rather she wishes she had a little sister she herself could perv on.

The actually explicit incest overtone animes are Yosogu no Sora and Aki no Sora. Stay away from those.
 

Smoolio

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Oct 25, 2017
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Completely missed this conversation with Merrin, is it random dialogue when you land on a planet?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Erm no that's not what the show is about..... Initially.

The premise was that the mc finds out his high achieving little sister is secretly a huge otaku and has to help her hide that secret from everyone.

...Unless you're talking about some hentai then my apologies.

LOL but in the end the show do pair them up tho, or at least the Mc actually do fall in love with his sister and vice versa :P
 

dabbert

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Oct 25, 2017
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hey fam is hobbes the new lovable forum character we derail entire threads for

yall need to watch power imho to know what how fucked up shipping can get dont sleep on it
 

Earthed

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Sep 26, 2019
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I did not think for a second that this was a thing. like. I know porn can have some surface level step sibling shit but not in a million fuckin years did I think people shipped siblings. at all. ever. like.

and now there is anime about finding out your sister is a fuckin sex fiend and "admitting their true feelings for each other" LIKE WHAT THE FUCKSDHJKL;SDFGAJKL;SDFJKL;ASDFJKL;SDFJKL; SDF IJL;SDF WHY.
Is this like performative outrage or something? Like, I get that it's really weird and disgusting, but like... chill.
 
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how in the god damn fuck is shipping SIBLINGS. LITERAL FAMILY. A FUCKING THING.
.... I had an ex girlfriend who was obsessed with that show ...

and fandom....

no. no. no no no no no. no. NO. do not tell me that she probably was shipping those brothers or whatever the fuck they are. no. noooomajsdfgkl; alsdjk;g jasdfgkl;a;sdfkl' i hate this thread.
I think im done for the weekend after this thread lol
W H A T T H E A C T U A L F U C K
I did not think for a second that this was a thing. like. I know porn can have some surface level step sibling shit but not in a million fuckin years did I think people shipped siblings. at all. ever. like.

and now there is anime about finding out your sister is a fuckin sex fiend and "admitting their true feelings for each other" LIKE WHAT THE FUCKSDHJKL;SDFGAJKL;SDFJKL;ASDFJKL;SDFJKL; SDF IJL;SDF WHY.
Dear Diary,

I thought I had seen it all... I've watched people die on the internet. I've seen videos of people sexualizing eggs. I even watched a streamer read One Direction fanfiction. I'm no stranger to weird. I thought nothing could surprise me.

And then I discovered that the idea of shipping two fictional characters goes beyond the normal. It's "supernatural" in the fact that thousands of people are totally on board with two brothers being romantic partners what the fuck whyyyyyyyyy just stop it. Stop it right there. No. Nope. I hate it. I hate it all. I hate this thread. I hate this new fucking knowledge. It's fucking weird. There is anime about admitting your true feelings to your younger fucking sister i swear to fucking god what the fuck is going on.

It's 3am. That is what's going on. It's 3 in the fucking morning. No wonder this is happening.
WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE INCEST OVERTONES IN THE FUCKING FIRST PLACE

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Unfortunately, the Gravity Falls fandom is extremely guilty of this.
 

Deleted member 10726

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Oct 27, 2017
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Amazing that Hobbes both came in with the freshest tea ever on god damn first reply to the thread and then proceeded to have a meltdown when they discovered incest shipping.

What a thread.
 

EatChildren

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Oct 27, 2017
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Shippers in general are the absolute embodiment of filth and we'd all be better off sending the lot of them to gamer gulag.
 

BDS

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait Merrin likes girls??? AHHHH I knew I liked her! But what was the actual dialogue and when does it happen? I never heard her say anything about this. Is she bi? Because it did kind of seem like she and Cal had a thing towards the end.
 

Gold Arsene

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Oct 27, 2017
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I did not think for a second that this was a thing. like. I know porn can have some surface level step sibling shit but not in a million fuckin years did I think people shipped siblings. at all. ever. like.

and now there is anime about finding out your sister is a fuckin sex fiend and "admitting their true feelings for each other" LIKE WHAT THE FUCKSDHJKL;SDFGAJKL;SDFJKL;ASDFJKL;SDFJKL; SDF IJL;SDF WHY.
No offense but I've known about this shit since I was a teenager.(Thank you so much Devil May Cry fandom.)
 

Harlequin

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yes, and they call it Wincest for their last name Winchester. They're disgusting, and "fandom" is the worst in all things.
Calm down. They're fictional characters, nobody is being harmed by that kind of fan fic and fan art existing and nobody is forcing you to look at it or read it. Whatever your personal moral objections may be, it's not a big deal.

As for OP's outrage, as others have said, there's nothing there to be upset about. So long as they're not complaining about the game featuring an LGBTQ character or saying she should've been straight, it's all in good fun. I've turned countless straight characters gay in fan fic. (And yeah, there's an argument to be made that it's not exactly the same thing but I'd still argue that it's harmless either way.)
 
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Einbroch

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Oct 25, 2017
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Acting surprised that people ship siblings when a good chunk of the top porn is "incest" porn.

bruh
 

Dezzy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just wanna know what ship/shipping means these days. When I was young ships were boats and shipping meant mailing.
 

FloofyMoofys

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Aug 19, 2019
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People commenting "people ship whatever they want!" or "it's nor really like that!!" are misunderstanding the concept of erasure lol
 

Arcana Wiz

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Oct 26, 2017
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Every time I think about Usagi Drop a little piece of my soul crumbles away, and I'm not sure how much of it is left to die.

I hear you and agree 100%. Nothing is left to be said.

But coming back at the topic... I think this isn't a 100% right or wrong/black or white, because while there is shipping and many people alter the sexuality of the characters all the time, I always defended that isn't wrong to make a gay pairing if you're not toxic *cough*LancexKeith forever*cough*, sooo isn't just that I judge someone to pair their MC with a character.

BUT, there is the issue of erasure, fetization of lesbians by the media and how many people think it's just a phase that the woman is passing or that she just didn't encounter the right guy *Blech*

Again, there is another viewpoint.... She could be Bi, I didn't play this game but from OP she only said she fell in love with a woman, never was explicited that she only likes girls. The "B" letter exists in LGBT and it's sad that many don't consider bi people a real thing.

Finally, to tell the truth... I was expecting far worse from what I saw in RDR2 treatment of women and minorities.
 

Deleted member 5129

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Hmm.. I finished the game yesterday and I did not get the impression that she's LGBTQ - but instead I really did get quite a "sexual energy" vibe between her and Cal so much so that I actually joked about it with my boyfriend lol - so I can see where those YT vids are coming from.
This must've been an optional dialogue because not once has it come up in my game, I wish it had though because I really like her character and knowing she's lgbtq makes her even better.
 

Punchline

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Oct 25, 2017
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The way straight men look at women, especially queer women in fiction- is quite gross. On OP's side on this if I'm being honest.
 

Failburger

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Dec 3, 2018
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Just save yourselves a headache and stay out of shipping wars. There's nothing there but a bunch of bored people with hours on their hands getting angry at nothing.
 

Deleted member 42102

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To be on topic. Isn't this a common occurrence in fiction? Where people just ship anyone with whoever? Shipping has fuck all to do with a characters orientation from what I've seen. People ship straight brothers together, gay characters with women, etc.

Not saying your feelings are invalid btw.
 

Deleted member 60582

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When people who have no one else in their lives other than fictional characters get horny, weird shit happens.
 

Ocirus

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Dec 4, 2017
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She mentioned that a woman she wanted to spend her life with was killed when they were both children. That's all we know. Nobody at all in this story shows attraction to any of the other characters.
That's not enough information to make a concrete assumption that's she's not bi.
This was also my takeaway from that conversation.