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Deffers

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Mar 4, 2018
2,402

Hey, all! I really enjoyed the last political quiz thread we had... a long time ago. What was neat about it was that it had a pretty consistent gimmick. I think it was Politiscales that time? It generated a neat flag for your ideology (it also gave you badges based on certain criteria). I've been thinking of making this thread for a while now, and even had a test run on the SocialistERA thread a few weeks (months?) back. See, this is one of my favorite quizzes I've encountered-- Political Sextant. What it does is, it has sixty ideologies on record, and has you run through questions to figure out which ideologies you match most and which you match least.

So what's so fun about this quiz? A lot of space is given to more exotic, and even extreme ideologies, some over a century old. This means that, in my experience, it'll typically hook you up with ideologies that you haven't heard of before, and sometimes you'll be a 100% match with (slightly) conflicting ideologies. It also suggests a reading/book for each ideology, meaning it can be a fun way to learn and discover more about ideologies you aren't familiar with. And help you to better discern who your political enemies are.

I've taken this test twice a year apart. The first time and the second time (today) are mostly similar in terms of likes (except I'm now also a Fourierist?), but my dislikes varied wildly. Except fuck Ronald Reagan in particular, I guess. I suppose I was in a "fuck centrists" mood that day last year and I'm a "fuck fascists" mood today.

So my present results are:

Classical Marxism: 100%

Anarcha-Feminism: 100%

Fourierism: 100%

Marxist Feminism: 100%

EDIT: Oh, and dislikes as well:

Clerical Fascism -58%

Fascism -50%

Integral Nationalism -50%

Paleoconservatism -70%

How well did your results match your beliefs? For me it's so-so. It clearly emphasizes my feminist outlook, which is heartening. I'd say I'm more anarchist than Marxist, but I guess that could be explained since I think maybe the quiz wants me to answer "disagree" for "states should" questions (when the answer for an anarchist would be states shouldn't, period), but since I live in a state at present I answered in regards to what I want states to do since they exist. I don't know how come Fourierism ends up being there this time, seeing as that's a pre-Marxist utopian socialist ideology, but I'm not gonna lie, I kinda like it. It may have to do with an interpretation of the religion questions (since I'm religious on a personal level but think states should be secular) yet that might not be the determining factor, since others have gotten Fourierism. I don't mind it, though. It's a historically significant ideology for me.

So, what say you, ERA? Share your results!

EDIT: Careful with the More Information links! Some of the original URLs appear to link to porn now.

EDIT2: I've since recovered the safe links from the More Information site. I've included them here. Some regrettable conclusions come to light, however.
 
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FaceHugger

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Oct 27, 2017
13,949
USA
Some of those questions were structured weird, assuming events to happen. But anyways here's my results. I don't know what any of this means aside from paleoconservatism, and I am happy that's at the bottom:

De Leonism 80%

Anarcha-feminism 88%

Marxist feminism 88%

Anarcho-primitivism -12%

Fusionism -21%

Paleoconservatism -30%

Edit: so I scanned over these terms and some concepts from eons ago, from the time before time known as College, are coming back to me .... I am not as Marxist, and especially not as anarchist, as these results seem to belie. I am certainly far more socialist in overall beliefs than capitalist, sure, but not like this.
 

saenima

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,892
Classical Marxism 100% lol

Anarcha-feminism 100% i can dig it

Guild Socialism 100% probably more my speed

Fourierism 100% this sounds good

Marxist Feminism 100% ok fine

And

Bleeding-heart Libertarianism -38% this sounds about right

Fusionism -38% i don't know what this is and the link for more info took me to porn so maybe it's ok

Paleoconservatism -90% because fuck conservatives


I guess it's mostly right?
 

sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
Classical Marxism 88%

Anarcha-feminism 88%

Marxist feminism 100%

Fusionism -64%

Paleoconservatism -100%

Paleolibertarianism -67%
 
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Some of those questions were structured weird, assuming events to happen. But anyways here's my results. I don't know what any of this means aside from paleoconservatism, and I am happy that's at the bottom:

De Leonism 80%

Anarcha-feminism 88%

Marxist feminism 88%

Anarcho-primitivism -12%

Fusionism -21%

Paleoconservatism -30%

De Leonism is a kind of socialism based on revolutionary syndicalism, where it uses worker's unions to establish socialism. It still believes in a government and uses a politcal party. It looks like the Socialist Labor Party of America are the big guys that work with that.

Anarcha-feminism and Marxist feminism are ideologies that focus on Anarchism and Feminism through feminist lenses, respectively.

Anarcho-primitivism is, in my opinion, the shittiest kind of anarchism that is still anarchist (anarcho-capitalists being so fundamentally disconnected from anarchist thought that they're honestly fascists). They want to dismantle society entirely to return to the wilderness, in a Luddite sense, so our disabled and trans comrades can get fucked according to them. They're essentially the most radical possible green anarchists.

Fusionism is a combination of traditionalism/social conservatism with right libertarianism. Ronald Reagan is ALSO on the wiki page for them, along with Scalia and Clarence Thomas! REALLY fuck them. Probably the closest to MAGA bullshit aside from paleoconservatism.
 

Maolfunction

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,871
Taken this before, took it again though. Got the exact same results. This lines up with my views pretty well.

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Edit: and dislikes I guess.

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Oct 29, 2017
3,099
Florida
Marxist feminism - 100%
Anarcha-feminism - 88%
Classical Marxism - 88%

Paleoconservatism - -80%
Fusionism - -50%
Free-market enviromentalism - -38%

Literally every single one of these political quizzes puts me on the left.
 

Exellus

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,348
Your top ideologies are:


Classical Marxism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: The Communist Manifesto



Anarcha-feminism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: The Voltairine de Cleyre Reader



Luxemburgism 75%



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Suggested reading: Reform or Revolution and Other Writings



Marxism-Leninism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: FUNDAMENTALS OF MARXISM-LENINISM MANUAL



Third Way 88%



More information
Suggested reading: The Third Way: The Renewal of Social Democracy



Marxist feminism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: Feminism and the Marxist Movement



Your worst ideologies are:




Civic nationalism -38%



More information
Suggested reading: On the Social Contract



Paleoconservatism -70%



More information
Suggested reading: The Paleoconservatives: New Voices of the Old Right



Three Principles of the People -33%
 
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Your top ideologies are:


Classical Marxism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: The Communist Manifesto



Anarcha-feminism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: The Voltairine de Cleyre Reader



Luxemburgism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: Reform or Revolution and Other Writings



Marxism-Leninism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: FUNDAMENTALS OF MARXISM-LENINISM MANUAL



Third Way 88%



More information
Suggested reading: The Third Way: The Renewal of Social Democracy



Marxist feminism 75%



More information
Suggested reading: Feminism and the Marxist Movement



Your worst ideologies are:




Civic nationalism -38%



More information
Suggested reading: On the Social Contract



Paleoconservatism -70%



More information
Suggested reading: The Paleoconservatives: New Voices of the Old Right



Three Principles of the People -33%

A Third Way Marxist-Leninist anarchafeminist. Now THAT is the kind of gibberish I was hoping for out of Political Sextant.
 

whiskeystrike

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
629
Is it? I thought it was clear. I interpreted it as women not having the same rights as men but deserving them? Are there other possible interpretations?
I took it as women aren't equal but we should treat them as such regardless. So no answers seemed good to me.

Sorry, I worked 12 hours in the sun and am tired, I think it's just me.
 

Exellus

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,348
A Third Way Marxist-Leninist anarchafeminist. Now THAT is the kind of gibberish I was hoping for out of Political Sextant.


I more or less think the government should be expanded and should be in service to the people, religion should be out of politics, but I don't agree capitalism is a failure or that we should abolish money.
 

Shy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
18,520
I got.

Your top ideologies are:
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 70%
Marxist feminism 100%

Your worst ideologies are:
Anarcho-capitalism -80%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Paleolibertarianism -75%

Hmmmm. I didn't like some of the answers i gave.
 
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Deffers

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Mar 4, 2018
2,402
I more or less think the government should be expanded and should be in service to the people, religion should be out of politics, but I don't agree capitalism is a failure or that we should abolish money.

That should probably be a more straightforward social democracy, which is a result two other people got. I have no idea what you did to trigger Marxism-Leninism or anarchism, but I figured that's what you were about since Third Way is one of the ways to express that position and it was your biggest agree by far. It might have something to do with what it considers ML. MLs would have considered capitalism a failure-- contrarily, Lenin considered his socialist experiment in Russia to have failed and transitioned into state capitalism. So depending on how Political sextant reads ML thought, maybe it got some indication of that out of you.

Still hilarious though.
 

Max

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22
Classical Marxism 100%

Anarcha-feminism 100%

Marxist feminism 100%

Classical Liberalism -90%

Fusionism -100%

Paleoconservatism -100%
 

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Oct 29, 2017
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100% - Classical Marxism
100% - Anarcha-Feminism
100% - Guild Socialism
100% - Fourierism
100% - Marxist Feminism


Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
Caliphate -50%
 

Hexa

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,738
Kemalism 67%
Social democracy 50%
Mutualism -75%
Synthesis anarchism -62%

Everything else is +-40% or below.
 

Parthenios

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
13,613
I got Classical Marxism (88%), Deep Ecology (83%), and Marxist Feminism (75%). I have a political science degree and have no idea what this means lol (well, some idea).

Seemed far more economy-based than these things tend to.

Edit: Got Panscalia and Civic Nationalism (both -62%) as my worst.
 

Exellus

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,348
That should probably be a more straightforward social democracy, which is a result two other people got. I have no idea what you did to trigger Marxism-Leninism or anarchism, but I figured that's what you were about since Third Way is one of the ways to express that position and it was your biggest agree by far. It might have something to do with what it considers ML. MLs would have considered capitalism a failure-- contrarily, Lenin considered his socialist experiment in Russia to have failed and transitioned into state capitalism. So depending on how Political sextant reads ML thought, maybe it got some indication of that out of you.

Still hilarious though.

I did say that we should attempt to remove hierarchy and that all people are roughly valued equally. Might have been it.
 
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Deffers

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Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Social Democracy - 75%

Mutualism - -38%
Kemalism 67%
Social democracy 50%
Mutualism -75%
Synthesis anarchism -62%

Everything else is +-40% or below.

Oooh, neat, you got anti-Mutualism. Mutualism is, historically, one of the antecedents to anarchist thought (though hardly the only claimant to such a position and it persists today though in diminished form). Would you guys say you agree that you dislike anarchism to that extent? You especially, Hexa, since you got another Anarchism as a big dislike. I'm interested to know! Especially since I haven't seen that result before.
 

House_Of_Lightning

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Oct 29, 2017
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I guess I'll take it. Sure as shit not gonna let it call me a "Classical Marxist" because "the state should do stuff". And that one token "are they a tankie question?" was pretty obvious.

If you could describe a "shrug" in political terms, they would be the following:


Your top ideologies are:

Civic nationalism 38%
Minarchism 17%
Green libertarianism 17%
Queer anarchism 30%




Your worst ideologies are:

Compassionate conservatism -83%
Paleoconservatism -70%
Three Principles of the People -67%
 
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
It literally asks if you think intellectuals (a vanguard) should lead the Revolution and that will assign you one form of tankie-ism or another. I took my "disagree" to "agree" and it gave me Trotskyism.

Aaaah, that might explain it. I forgot that question. Mine was a disagree as well. Also, I expected nothing less than your highest agree being less than fifty percent somehow.
 

McScroggz

The Fallen
Jan 11, 2018
5,973
Classical Marxism - 88%
Anarcha-feminism - 88%
Third Way - 88%
Marxist Feminist - 88%

Apparently I really don't like facists, clerical facists or paleo conservatives.

Is this good?
 

The Adder

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,119
Top ideologies
Classical Marxism - 62%
Anarcha-Feminism - 62%
Third Way - 75%
Marxist Feminism - 75%

Bottom ideologies
-25% - Paleolibertarianism, Clerical Fascism, Minarchism, Bleeding-Heart Libertarianism
-43% - Fusionism
-60% - Paleoconservastism

Not a huge fan of this test because, while it rightfully digs into gender identity and equality there seema to be a dirth of questions surrounding race, which means the results likely lack in political philosophies that deal with that.
 

Kangi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Marxist Feminists for life. Paleoconservatives do not interact
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
Top
Kemalism 58%
Social Democracy 92%
Third Way 100%

Worst
Mutualism -62%
Odalism -42%
Strasserism -100%

I wonder which question was tied to the SocDem/Third Way division.

"Google, what is strasserism"
Google: Nazis
"Oh that makes sense."
 
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Deffers

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Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Classical Marxism - 88%
Anarcha-feminism - 88%
Third Way - 88%
Marxist Feminist - 88%

Apparently I really don't like facists, clerical facists or paleo conservatives.

Is this good?

It's pretty good, I'd say! You don't have any of the tankie options, and you hate the fashies. I'd be interested in if you think of yourself as a socialist or as a capitalist, given that Third Way appears to be the new Mystery Outcome now that we've figured out where Marxism-Leninism is coming from.
 

Conciliator

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,132
One of the (many) problems I have with these things is that I always feel caught between answering the question as what theoretical ideal system I would like to see, vs. what should be done now in this system.


Your top ideologies are:

Anarcho-naturism 88%

Anarcha-feminism 88%

Individualist feminism 100%

Queer anarchism 90%



Your worst ideologies are:

Clerical fascism -58%

Integral nationalism -70%

Paleoconservatism -60%




It seems like 75% of the possible ideologies you can get are some version of marxism or anarchism in this test. Guess we're all anarcho-feminists now!

Why am I the only ecologist?

these guys want Marxist revolution, but like the kind where there's still constant new disposable shit forever. Hyper-consumerist Communism lol
 
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McScroggz

The Fallen
Jan 11, 2018
5,973
It's pretty good, I'd say! You don't have any of the tankie options, and you hate the fashies. I'd be interested in if you think of yourself as a socialist or as a capitalist, given that Third Way appears to be the new Mystery Outcome now that we've figured out where Marxism-Leninism is coming from.

I guess somewhere in the middle? I don't believe in going fully socialist, but I also think there's a ton of huge issues with capitalism. I guess the way I look at it is socialist programs are one way to address either the flaws in the capitalist system or to address the flaws in the government. So there might be some things that I think ideally could work within a capitalist society but we just suck so we have to find other solutions.

I guess how cynical I feel on any given day determines which one I "identify" with as lol.
 

Zocano

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,023
Feel like a lot of the statements were leading or poorly worded and could have been broken down more. I don't ever feel great about these sorts of quizzes cause I opt for "slightly" more than full committal answers.

Aligned:
Anarcha-Feminism: 75%
Third Way: 75%
Fourierism: 75%
Marxist-Feminism: 88%

Disaligned:

Fusionism: -57%
Paleoconservatism: -70%
Three Principles of the People: -50%
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,969
Best:
Classical Marxism: 100%
Marxism-Leninism: 92%
Marxist feminism: 100%

Worst:
Classical liberalism: -70%
Fusionism: -100%
Paleoconservatism: -100%
Caliphate: -70%
 

KillLaCam

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,388
Seoul
Best:
Classical Marxism 75%
Third Way 75% (doubt it)
Marxist feminism 88%


Worst:
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -50%
Mutualism -50%
Paleoconservatism -70% (probably not low enough)



Im not sure about the best ones for me but me because "Third way" sounds like a different type Centrist to me, and im definitely not that . Might be because I put "slightly " as some answers.

But the worst ones are definitely true
 
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Top
Kemalism 58%
Social Democracy 92%
Third Way 100%

Worst
Mutualism -62%
Odalism -42%
Strasserism -100%

I wonder which question was tied to the SocDem/Third Way division.

"Google, what is strasserism"
Google: Nazis
"Oh that makes sense."

It's not just any kind of Nazism, it's a Nazi trying to combine Nazism with tankie-ass communism (the best way I can describe it-- worker uprising into genocide). I suspected it would be your -100%.

Hell yeah

I made a God out of blood not superiority.
I killed the king of deceit.
Wake me up in Anarchy.



You broke it, congratulations! You now have a LOT of reading to do. Some of those are things that I'm certain you don't believe in, but it seems like people who lean more anarchist end up getting like dozens of disconnected ideologies.

I guess somewhere in the middle? I don't believe in going fully socialist, but I also think there's a ton of huge issues with capitalism. I guess the way I look at it is socialist programs are one way to address either the flaws in the capitalist system or to address the flaws in the government. So there might be some things that I think ideally could work within a capitalist society but we just suck so we have to find other solutions.

I guess how cynical I feel on any given day determines which one I "identify" with as lol.

Neat. I haven't seen anybody describe themselves as thinking capitalism could be good but human nature prevents it from being so. I can't say if the quiz picked up on your indecisiveness or not, but that's pretty unique.

And the mystery of the Third Way question continues.
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,472
Feel like a lot of the statements were leading or poorly worded and could have been broken down more. I don't ever feel great about these sorts of quizzes cause I opt for "slightly" more than full committal answers.

Aligned:
Anarcha-Feminism: 75%
Third Way: 75%
Fourierism: 75%
Marxist-Feminism: 88%

Disaligned:

Fusionism: -57%
Paleoconservatism: -70%
Three Principles of the People: -50%
Yeah there were a bunch where I think I could've chosen any of the middle 3 options depending on my train of thought at the time. I think the issue with any test like this is that these are complicated issues and trying to break them into a simple spectrum is often impossible for many of them