No worries man, he has been pigeonholed I'd agree, there's many roles I've loved him in, but recently? ehh
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J.K. Rowling defends Depp being in 'Fantastic Beasts'
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At this point, I'm not understanding these responses. Seems every 'witness' and evidence has supported Depp, with their settlement claim of being the only thing that might support that he abused her and is that sort of individual. That's my understanding anyway from what little I've heard of this anyway.
Just seems like a very thin line to be holding on to, and seems fueled more by opinions on his career (can't blame there as I'm not fond of a lot of his recent work as well) rather than actual justice if there's any to be had.
Edit: Yates' response was poor. At least Rowling went into reasons beyond 'he just seems like a swell guy' that Yates'response boiled down to. At least here, it gives Amber or anyone else a direct way to call her out, as Rowling implies she's familiar with both of them when it comes to the situation and everything surrounding that.
This... i was so disappointed to see Depp. Farell was perfect tbh.
I'm fully boycotting anything he's in and have absolutely no opinion of his career, so no.
I don't have links for all of this, but off the top of my head:
1. As far as the transphobia goes, she follows several transphobic politicians and columnists and has gone on to retweet and favorite posts that are extremely suspect to say the least
2. She's vocally against leftists in Britain and has been criticizing the Labour Party for 2 years because of their shift to anti-austerity from pro-busness; she literally copies and pastes smear campaigns out of Britain's right wing news
3.Pro-Syria bombing by the UK and criticized people for opposing it
4. Iraq War apologist
5. People asked her to join the BDS movement, she said she wasn't going to put stated she didn't like the Israeli government. Now she believes any criticism of Israel is anti-semetic.
6. Equated Corbyn to Farage
7. Called socialists fascists when the left wasn't sold on the idea of voting for Macron
There is more that I can't remember. She's a fucking mess
Ok...so am I just misunderstanding where things went on with that case for there to be such a social judgement of guilt? Any good breakdowns that lay out the whole thing?
Edit: My impressions were mostly formed from the last big Depp thread here which didn't seem to be all that concrete in either direction.
Neither Rowling or Yates were witness. What we have is Rowling agreeing with Yates that Depp is a good person to work with and we have LOTS of proof that he is the worst person to work with AND we have video of him breaking a glass on their own kitchen and pics of Amber's bruises
You haven't seen The Lobster, The Beguiled or The Killing of a Sacred Deer yet, have you?
He wasn't playing Grindewald though. He was playing Graves. If you think Grindewald is going to act like Graves going forward you are in for a surprise.
Shouldn't have swapped out Colin.
What a fuck up that was.
If only Colin Farrell was a talented actor who could handle a versatile role.
Oh wait.
What a fuck up that was.
If only Colin Farrell was a talented actor who could handle a versatile role.
Oh wait.
I always give the victim the benefit of the doubt in these cases, and she had actual evidence of his abuse. He had "character witnesses". She also gave her settlement money to a related charity. I see no reason at all to doubt her, and I have a one strike and you're out for women beaters (and rapists and harassers). No second chances. People don't change (especially not at Depp's age, or Mel Gibson, Woody Allen, Weinstein, etcs ages), and I don't support anything they're attached to. Its a personal call, you do you. I won't tell you what to believe or do.
You could still bring back Graves. Professor Moody style.
I feel like he was playing graves in public but I remember that scene he was with credence he definitely had a different vibe going on
It probably wouldn't harm the film all that much if they stood against him and said he wouldn't be returning for the next entry, whether that means Grindelwald won't be present or that they'll recast him as they have with a number of actors in the past films.
As I said, I'm relatively uninformed and basing it on the last thread (made the case sound favorable towards his end), hence why I'm asking if there's a good breakdown in order to avoid any further misjudgements. I'm certainly not supporting women beaters, harassers, and rapists (hell, I assist with a local charity against dating abuse), so not sure where that call on my character is coming from.
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Sure, but that doesn't alleviate the issues at hand.
Based on everything I know about Grindelwald he's going to be much more flamboyant and overt. That scene you reference is a good one but I think its meant to tip the audience that something is wrong more than anything.
Very good response. I'm excited to have Depp in the role. He's a fantastic actor and I think will do a good job with it.
I don't think she needed to say anything, personally, but it was worded well.
I don't think she needed to say anything, personally, but it was worded well.
You mean aside from his decades long career and the recognition of being Johnny Depp?
Fact is Pirates gave Depp something many actors at his level rarely get, a new generation of fans. But not just a new generation a younger one. Damn smart of him to tap that well.
Yeah, I like Farrell in a couple of films, but calling him a better actor than Depp is a stretch. That said, fantastic beasts was one of his better roles.
He's definitely had a long career and, at one point, could be considered a big box office draw between the Pirates movies and something like Alice in Wonderland. But take a look at his overall box office performance, it doesn't paint the picture of someone that is currently a huge draw (despite what he's done in the past). You add in the domestic violence situation and then this non-statement from Rowling and it just tends to leave a sour taste in the mouth without significant upside.
Aside from your first one, it just sounds like she doesn't have the exact same political position you have. The first one, wasn't that her liking one article? And since when is following someone an indication of you having bad political ideas.
Don't you feel as though this is a bit... Much? This sort of purity test is going to make it so only people who think exactly like you are allies, and everyone else is an enemy
One twitter like + disliking Corbyn = far right TERF.
Or you know, read her twitter timeline and realize how ludicrous that witch trial sounds.
Or you know, read her twitter timeline and realize how ludicrous that witch trial sounds.
After what he did the right decision was to recast. I'm sure there is someone who could play the character just as well as Depp that didn't abuse a women.
This was just a non response from her. She is implying that Amber is okay with everything but there's no way to know that. And even if she is, I would still prefer the role be given to someone who never did anything like that.
Edit: There's no excuse for liking transphobic tweets. Just no excuse at all. She sucks.
This was just a non response from her. She is implying that Amber is okay with everything but there's no way to know that. And even if she is, I would still prefer the role be given to someone who never did anything like that.
Edit: There's no excuse for liking transphobic tweets. Just no excuse at all. She sucks.
*Yawn*
So you're telling me, over the past few years he hasn't phoned it in completely?
It varies from film to film, I'd say. I thought he was excellent in Murder on the Orient Express.
perfectly valid response. Well said as expected from her...
if Depp can just decide that he actually WANTS to act in a flim again he'll be ok.
if Depp can just decide that he actually WANTS to act in a flim again he'll be ok.
You called him "a terrible actor." I don't believe you specified a time frame for that ridiculous claim.
I'm very okay with this. If Amber and Johnny prefer to have their disagreements be kept private then so be it. It's none of my business to pry when the parties involved don't want me to.
Yet to see it
No bother, I'll edit the post to state *Between the years of 2007ish to now*
So what films of his have you seen where you thought he phoned it in? Thus far, the only one where I thought that was the case was Pirates 5, and even still, there's moments in that where he still nails it.
Johnny Depp is still recognizable to a huge demographic which is likely to see this movie. They simply don't care about waning box office numbers, it's Johnny Depp, one of the most recognizable actors in the world.
The domestic violence situation is not a big issue since it was resolved to the satisfaction of both parties. Had it not been resolved or there was a history with multiple accusers, it might be different, but I'm with Rowling and Yates on this, it was resolved.
Past few Pirates films, with the latest being the worst
First Fantastic Beasts - He just plays his usual weird character
Any film he has done with Tim Burton recently
Awful as Tonto
Probably others, but that's off the top of my head
Everybody in my theater was laughing. He looked so ridiculous compared to the cool colin
I accept her answer but I still would have preferred Mads Mikkelsen as Grindelwald.
Dam that's good
Lol or In Bruges
Farrell is amazing plus he's a great human being to boot.
But either way the villain of fantastic beasts being Grindelwald all along was lame, even worse that it was Depp. My theater also laughed.
Pretty much. Any sense of intimidation and fear surrounding his character was immediately thrown out the window. Dude looked ridiculous and Depp hamming it up in the worst way possible didn't help.
Nah he has been pretty mediocre for the better part of a decade. Farrell as of 2017 is a better actor than Depp is.
I... I didn't even know that I wanted this :(I accept her answer but I still would have preferred Mads Mikkelsen as Grindelwald.
But I have to agree on this one, I didn't like the casting even prior to hearing the allegations about spousal abuse but if the victim considers the matter settled then I think it should be unless circumstances change.
We turning on Rowling now? Fuck outta here. As for Depp, hate on his acting all you like but the only strike against him is an allegation made during divorce proceedings which have been settled to both parties satisfaction. Y'all also realize Rowling probably can't comment depending on how Depp's contract is setup? That's what it sounded like she was getting at.
Without question.
More people should watch The Lobster (and In Bruges). The guy even elevated that Fright Night remake into something pretty good.