Farrell is better off not starring in another film by David fucking Yates. Dude's been killing it with smaller projects.
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J.K. Rowling defends Depp being in 'Fantastic Beasts'
- Thread starter Rvaan
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Yeah, kind of hope he gets to reprise his role, as the real character this time.
Wouldn't be the first time that happened. We saw fake Moody before we saw real Moody in the Harry Potter movies.
Last I heard Depp was withholding the settlement money because he wanted to donate it himself for the tax deduction. Haven't heard any updates in a while but apparently the money still has not been donated.
I was cold on it at first, but I think I actually like it now. It's a really solid cast.
I accept her answer but I still would have preferred Mads Mikkelsen as Grindelwald.
Goddamn.
The cast is fine, but the movie still feels like a soulless pile of trash that is only elevated by Tennant and Farrell hamming it up on-screen.
They elevate it, sure, but the rest of the cast are doing fine work as well.
I also like how the 'friendship' of Charlie and Ed is handled this time around. it feels more natural.
I don't see how the Depp situation is significantly different to Gibson, or Woody Allen. Neither man was convicted, but there's large evidence that they're guilty of what they're accused of. They're garbage human beings who aren't repentant and aren't making inroads into making themselves better people, so why are we just shrugging and saying 'It's a private matter, idgaf'. Rowling has styled herself as a progressive, ethical person, so she has a large onus to behave morally in situations like this. If she wanted to, she could torpedo his casting. But she doesn't, so it's perfectly acceptable to judge her for it.
Gibson has a very LONG history, including sexual harassment of a female police officer and literal audio of him threatening to kill his girlfriend and wish rape on her "by a pack of n-words."
So yes, the Depp situation, is a bit different.
Agreed. If we want to never let people move on from their mistakes and poor choices then fine, but mark Wahlberg should not be getting starring actor roles either
But it's over and done, both parties don't seem interested in digging this up over and over. Just like Wahlberg made amends with his past
I know you all like being outraged more than level headed but let's just let it go
You are free to not see the film or argue he's not a good actor, that is a different topic however
Depp reveal got a pretty solid reaction around my way, everyone was talking about it in a positive light and made them anticipate a sequel, to each their own, I've never been a fan of Colin anyway.
I respect and agree with Rowling's opinion, and I look forward to the new film, with Depp as the main nemesis
I respect and agree with Rowling's opinion, and I look forward to the new film, with Depp as the main nemesis
So are you saying that Amber Heard lied, and staged that photo where she was beaten to shit? And then donated the entirety of her divorce settlement to women's shelters and the ACLU just to maintain the charade?
The point being Johnny Depp has demonstrated no trending predatory behaviour.
If abusing women in a relationship is his MO he would routinely do it and not just to one woman, whom actually does have a history with abuse.
Johnny is old and if this was repetitive behaviour dozens of women would of come out. But instead we just get Amber and a letter from Kate Moss saying Johnny is chill.
While I'll concede that I perhaps shouldn't say he's no different from established predatory abusers, that doesn't really change the fact that you either think she's lying or you think he is. Just because it's an isolated accusation doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I'm not saying she isn't lying I'm just saying she's the one with the history of abuse, right?
I'm not laying out the blame game here but like I said in a previous thread; this notion that physical harm is the only form of abuse that can manifest in a relationship is erroneous.
Women are capable of laying out abuse in a marriage just of a different and arguably a much more damaging sort. Not just to their spouse but to kids as well.
It happens a lot. And life isn't so cut and dry. There aren't winners in this situation.
This was Heard's response. I don't find it to be particularly damning for Depp but others might disagree.
Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
A toxic branch of feminism that doesn't view transwomen as women.
I think its "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist" but I could be wrong.
I don't see how that makes her "far right", unless you're using the term "right" to mean "things I don't like". She's been consistently left wing on all areas of British politics. If there's an area she's disappointed you, then she's a left wing person that's disappointed you - she isn't simply "demoted" to being right wing.
In Woody's case, there's also large evidence of his innocence.
I don't see it as damning to Deep either. IMO they both were abusive to each other. Also, Amber was actually arrested for domestic violence toward her previous partner so maybe we should start boycotting her as well... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't know. I know it's rare that women lie in those occurrences. That doesn't mean it never happens -- I've witnessed it with a friend a number of years back -- but it is very rare. In this situation, I honestly don't know what the truth is, personally. Doug Stanhope put his reputation on the line with the article he wrote in defense of Depp. Depp's ex-wife of 14 years came out in staunch support of him as well.
I truly don't know. They very well may have gotten into a drunken fight. I don't know. But I do know if we're going to start asking for people to be basically banned from the industry due a single incident where we don't know the actual details, we shouldn't be picking and choosing. There has been a lot of negativity towards Depp over a number of years in communities like ours and I think that comes out in how we react to these allegations.
Josh Brolin was arrested for assault on his wife. She later said it was a misunderstanding but she was the one who called the police. How often was that brought up after the Infinity War trailer dropped? Amber Heard herself was arrested for assault on her girlfriend but there was no outrage to her being cast in Aquaman.
And to be clear: I don't think we should be going after either of them. But we do pick and choose whose domestic assault allegations are worth calling for jobs over and it's a strange concept to me.
Really, if you think we should be upset with Depp being cast in this because of the allegations, I get it. I do. I just personally have trouble doing that in this situation, given the people who came out in defense of him (such as an ex-fiance and an ex-wife whom he was married to for 14 years).
It sounds like a statement adults would make. Who would have guessed! (I know that's rare these days)
I'm confused but it wouldn't be the first time. How did Rowling's statement quote Heard's statement out of context?
You know as much as I do. My guess is that she wanted the full statement to be quoted as opposed to parts of it but that doesn't seem to be something to get riled up about.
I didn't actually know about the stuff about Heard. I think I might have waded in here a little gun-ho. I think the reason this one is so visceral in the public perception, (and in mine) is because of that photograph. And while I appreciate Stanhope taking a position, he did the same for Louis CK, let's not forget, and that didn't turn out to be the right move to make there.
I'm going to back down, though, it seems to be a lot more complicated than I originally thought. And given Heard's statements above, I think that there's a lot more shades of grey than it appeared.
https://www.thewrap.com/louis-ck-doug-stanhope-masturbation-gawker/
Are you referring to this? Or was there a time where he actually defended Louis and said he didn't do that stuff?
I mean, she's saying every party that's actually involved in the incident is fine with it and wants to be left alone about it.
I take it with a grain of salt without hearing from the victims side, but I'm a firm believer that you should follow the victims wishes in these scenarios.
I remembered it as being a tacit defense, but yeah, I guess that's it. I need to pay more attention, clearly.
I think Stanhope legit thought they were talking about him. Evidently, he pulls his dick out a lot.
Keeping Depp will hurt them. The craziest thing on this forum is how people are howling for Farrell, one of the worst actors to get a break in Hollywood.
I feel like it was just a really dark joke. I have a hard time believing he would actually admit to that. Haha.
Depp or not, I absolutely hate Grindewald's look in these movies. He looks like a doofus. And Grindewald was supposed to be pretty attractive according to the books. I know he's supposed to be old in these movies, but still.
It didn't. Heard was actually referring to WB's statement. News sites are name-dropping Rowling for the clicks.