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Jair Bolsonaro, Fascist, Elected President of Brazil
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We are with you. Stay safe, say when you need something.
Less than the US states do. No, there's no conservative rural/liberal urban area divide. There's a leftist northeast, right wing center/southeast/south division. This does not mean the northeast is less socially conservative, though.
Bolsonaro won by huge margins in São Paulo (60 to 40%) and Rio de Janeiro (65% to 35%).
Not just here. Dude basically will allow the Amazon Forest to become a parking lot.
Good luck to everyone IN THE WORLD
Exactly, do not pity us, do your part because you're in the same boat.
Win those goddamn midterms and let's start dismantling this international rise of fascism before it is too late.
I hope the majority of those who voted for this cunt outside of Brazil buy their tickets back home.
A shame. The world is truly moving full gear into the gutter.
A shame. The world is truly moving full gear into the gutter.
User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory false equivalence concerning fascism. Account still in junior phase.
We were forced to choose between a shit shower or a diarrhea bathtub. I think a good part of foreign media is unaware that in the other side there were no champions of democracy.
Brazil would be fucked either way, we can at least pray that in the next 4 years a new progressive and liberal political leader will ascend.
Brazil would be fucked either way, we can at least pray that in the next 4 years a new progressive and liberal political leader will ascend.
from: https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/10/28/brazil-urgent-call-protect-rights
Dude is fascist and doesn't even hide it. He was voted in with people knowing this.
This also has major consequences for the world in terms of accelerating climate change, especially coming off of the IPCC report. He's backed by the ruling class/agriculture lobby/etc who has been eyeing and licking their lips at the deforestation of the Amazon rainforest and reducing its protections. This was an extremely important election for humanity (as was the one with Trump) in general, at a time when the world really needs to get its shit together to address climate change.
We're fucked.
Dude is fascist and doesn't even hide it. He was voted in with people knowing this.
This also has major consequences for the world in terms of accelerating climate change, especially coming off of the IPCC report. He's backed by the ruling class/agriculture lobby/etc who has been eyeing and licking their lips at the deforestation of the Amazon rainforest and reducing its protections. This was an extremely important election for humanity (as was the one with Trump) in general, at a time when the world really needs to get its shit together to address climate change.
We're fucked.
Bolsonaro sounds like an absolutely monstrous piece of shit. How does this keep happening to the world?
Stay safe Brazil-era.
Stay safe Brazil-era.
My roommate (and work colleague) is from Brazil, is gay and this is very discomforting for him. Likewise, another colleague from Brazil who is of African descent said he spent nights crying as a result of this.
World is going to hell in a handbasket, and it's hard to see the light at times, but damned if it isn't worth fighting for.
World is going to hell in a handbasket, and it's hard to see the light at times, but damned if it isn't worth fighting for.
I don't have a good idea what the other candidate was like, but that miserably dumb comparison was used during the Trump/Clinton election. One was clearly worse. You can just vote for the one that's not a hate mongering fascist.
In regards to the amazon forest, I work at Inpa (National Institute of Amazon Research). Currently we don't have a director, even though there is already someone who is suppose to be given the position but thanks to the fact that he is from PT there is some heavy resistence from some big names in the institute. Sadly I have heard a bunch of these people talking and you can believe me when I say that they have some really dangerous opinions of what should happen to the forest, and these are scientists that should know better but sadly money seems to talk louder.
My one hope is that he will immediately tank the economy, already one of the most fragile big economies in the world, and his rich supporters and poor supporters will absnodon him - but a) hoping for another country to suffer even for a moment, is obviously stupid and not what I mean b) He can do an awful lot of damage - the US has a much stronger system of checks and balances and Trump trampled all over them simply by testing their limits.
And yes OF COURSE Putin was all over it. This one was already primed and ready to go. This international vandal is a serious threat to economies and democracies and it's time that he was isolated and neutered. The Russian people no longer have control over their systems, even if they did object to his behavior. He's found that it's easier to bring people down to your own level than raise yourself up to another's. His idea - reductively - is to make Russia the best of a bad lot.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...t-tells-us-lawmakers/articleshow/65249727.cms
And yes OF COURSE Putin was all over it. This one was already primed and ready to go. This international vandal is a serious threat to economies and democracies and it's time that he was isolated and neutered. The Russian people no longer have control over their systems, even if they did object to his behavior. He's found that it's easier to bring people down to your own level than raise yourself up to another's. His idea - reductively - is to make Russia the best of a bad lot.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...t-tells-us-lawmakers/articleshow/65249727.cms
What is your definition of "fucked"? Were the other side advocating for the complete eradication of the Amazon rainforest, extreme torture, the rape of women, the beating/murder of LGBT+ folk and the subjugation of minorities? If not then, regardless of the corruption scandal that I do know about, I don't see how Brazil and the world would have been equally as "fucked" had the alternative been elected.
Damn, that sounds awful. You'd think scientists would be the ones who'd want to keep things from getting fucked but, as you say, money has more power than anything else in this world. I hope they feel happy on their death beds knowing what future they've left for their children.
It's so hard not to feel pessimistic about the future; it just seems like the forces looking to fuck it over are so incredibly powerful that there is nothing I, or any of us, can do to stop it.
The horrible feedback loop of fascism and climate change is terrifying. Fascists make climate change worse which creates crises that lead to more fascism. The world needs to stop it ASAP.
A major difference is that one of those was a whole lot more likely to result in an election 4 years from now
Congratulations for coming out to your family, you're very brave!
Just remember that we are not alone, if this fucker tries to harm our community we will fight back.
That's the point. Sure they'll doom the human race, but they'll be dead long before shit hits the fan so they don't care.
Between far right and fascist? Hmm. I wish I had access to the folks discussing this.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/13849314/
Honestly, I dislike PT as much as the next guy, but there's no metric in which Haddad is nearly as bad as Bolsonaro. Haddad was a democratic person who was open to dialogue and didn't really defend the economic policies of Dilma which drove the country to the crisis. Nothing bad happened to São Paulo while he was mayor, and the city's budged remained balanced.
The better choice this second round was a no-brainer, and sadly the much worse option won.
The better choice this second round was a no-brainer, and sadly the much worse option won.
If having a shit economy for 4 years mean our democracy is secure I am all in for this. It sucks, but we do kinda see this as one of the best case scenarios. Bolsonaro would quickly lose support from most of the population and would not be able to do that much damage.
Thank you, it was not a easy decision to make but I felt I couldn't live with myself if I didn't go through with it. But now I'm truly happy for having taken this step.
I mean, the other party was responsible for the biggest corruption scheme in the history of mankind so... it wasn´t an easy election for brazilians, at all. Brazilians were fucked this time, since you either voted for someone that said terrible things against gays, women and black people (Bolsonaro) or Haddad, who is from the worker´s party and praises Lula every single time. For some people the corruption had more weight and they voted for Bolso. For some people, the things Bolso said had more weight and they voted for Haddad. Much like every TV news network here is saying, the is the election of hate, where people are voting to fuck up PT, so this mostly explains why Bolso won.
Western media keeps comparing him to Trump, but that's a misnomer. He's much closer to Duterte.
He's pro-dictatorship. That's pretty fascist.
He's pro-dictatorship. That's pretty fascist.
Where have you been? The economy already tanked a few years ago.
Most people choose to ignore that, Brazil would never win no matter the outcome. Fuck PT, fuck Bolsonaro.