Discussion in 'EtcetEra' started by Nemesis162, Oct 28, 2018.
Duterte, Trump, Mohammed bin Salman, Bolsonaro summit when?
The safety of other humans would rate above all else I would think. Bolsonaro is a threat to human lives.
Duterte on a much grander scale.
Stay safe, BrazilEra
really fight back? And I don't mean you or anyone else individually, I mean as collective communities of the oppressed.
Would you actually fight back? No, I don't mean fight back as in protesting or voting or trying to drum up support in your area of residence, I mean would you truly fight back?
That's a really tough ask for any group of people, and if history is any indication then things are going to have to get a lot worse for the survival instinct to truly kick in on a level that could actually fight back. And I think that's what those seeking to exploit others are counting on.
But being predictably stupid doesn't absolve those voters of blame.
You are a evil person.
I'm not an expert by any means, but from what I know of Brazilian political history, I feel like its democracy is FAR too fragile to deal with a strongman like Bolsonaro. I hope this is the sort of thing that will blow over in a few years, but you can't help but have a pit in your stomach.
Let's hope that the global tide of fascism falls back, his cruel and shortsighted policies blow up in his face, and in four years he'll be on his ass and it will all just be a bad memory.
The new Fascism in the west will be short-lived. The developing world might be a different story.
Well all things considered this was the best... ok, least worst scenario. Had he lost I really, really would've fear a coup attempt with a bunch of idiots clapping like they were doing few hours ago when he won, and he only managed 55% instead of the 60%+ I feared, so the margin was closing, and his rejection is strong.
So vote for the fascist because the other candidate wasn’t fascist but helped countries with left wing autocrats?
From what I can tell, the PT didn’t pose a threat to democracy, but Bolsorano does. That’s should be enough when push comes to shove.
You just think yourself or some others can survive the Bolsorano government for the next 4 years, but don’t actually care about who might get hurt. This sounds similar to the arguments from so-called progressives against Hillary Clinton and for Trump.
The whole world is going to shit.
BrazilEra, if you want to run away to Peru, send me a PM, I'll try my best to help you around
I'm sorry, BrazilEra.
The world's just going to shit, huh?
Bothsiderism makes me so sad.
Still, everything else that man represents is just vile and repulsive. We were put in an awful situation for the "second turn" of the presidential elections here, with two positively dreadful choices before us and no other alternative. However, between both options, electing him was by far the worst and most dangerous. His worst case scenario is not only extraordinarily scary, but also the most likely to actually come to fruition since he has way too much power behind him (The man basically has the entire army under his back and call, so you can expect a scenario where opposition will not be treated kindly here). He's very likely to get pretty much anything he wants done, and that's the scariest part of it.
I am certainly saddened to see this development, and now all I can hope is that we can somehow walk out of his term with the least amount of damage done to not only the country, but to the entire planet as well.
i think fascism is one of the great filter
The nyt did a whole editorial about how bad he was, I'm not getting this.
Bolsonaro is a conservative with populist ideas and has said many terrible things in the past. It's true that he isn't a good option, but it's easy to understand why he won. The liberal media will obviously reverberate the atrocities said by Bolsonaro but will conveniently forget why Haddad was an even shittier option.
Haddad, the PT candidate for the presidency responds to 32 lawsuits, which put him as one of the champions of the record of crimes committed in public life. In the long run, Haddad, already charged in two lawsuits, is accused of receiving cash from two of the condemned contractors in Operation Lava Jato, charged with crimes of administrative improbity, suspected of oversupply of works and services, accused of misusing resources and even from the illegal application of public money. Not enough of his direct involvement in numerous irregularities, he surrounded himself in the campaign for the presidency, led by Lula (who is in prison for corruption), of advisers and coordinators who were also indicted for crimes in Petrolão (huge political scandal), giving concrete indications that the party would reactivate the corruption machine oiled during the 13 years of PT in power.
Not only that, but Haddad was one of the worst mayors of São Paulo history with only 15% of approval:
During his term as Brazilian minister of education, the unified national exam for entering in Universities (ENEM) was frauded several times:
Brazilian students protests against the frauds:
Education isn't a circus
Brazil chose a politician of the far right instead of a corrupt and proven incompetent leftist politician. It also helps Bolsonaro that Brazil has an homicidal rate of 60.000 deaths per year, and PT did nothing to stop that rate to increase for many years. Public security is also something that played a big role in his election.
If there is a good thing, is that Bolsonaro already said he is commited to the Brazilian Constitution and will respect democracy and minorities (which is something that should be obvious, but well, the national and international press wants to make the devil out of him). All in all, I think it will be just like a Trump presidency and in the end, we'll be able to survive.
Populism is bad mkay
Yeah, we’re even more fucked. I have a really bad feeling about this.
Ciro x Amoedo would be a far better contest and it’s sad.
Even if it Haddad is PT he’s a great guy, a very intelligent one.
I don’t believe people voted for a meme. For a fucking guy full of hate like Bolsonaro.
Aos amigos brasileiros que fazem parte de minorias, força a vocês todos!
Ao pessoal da ciência, do meio-ambiente, e educação (daonde faço parte) boa sorte também, será ainda mais difícil, infelizmente.
Trump has concentration camps for children and a hate campaign radicalizing domestic terrorism against his opponents. People telling me not to worry because of Trump is the weirdest thing.
Yeah, it's not like the Trump administration is doing shit about the right to discriminate LGBTQ+ people or whatever.
I'm not evil, I'm just not as crazy and dramatic as some of you.
Awesome, just fucking awesome I just had a huge argument with a terrible aunt. Just great. I'm crying.
Stay safe Brazil-era.
Fuck that piece of shit.
God speed, Brazil-Era.
Clearly he will do this and not any of the other things he said!