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Jalopnik: When Are We Going to Address How Paul Walker Had Relationships With Underage Girls?
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That's pretty disgusting. Article states he was 33 when he started dating that 16 year old. If she had been 20+ or something, I'd think it would be a non-factor, but 16 is definitely way too young. And then his prior relationship was another 16 year old while he was 28. So that's not a good pattern developing there because he seems to targeting girls that age.
16 years old is a kid. A 16 year old with a full grown adult who's in his late 20s or early 30s is straight fucked up territory. There is a gulf of difference in that dynamic. Age of consent doesn't mean anything in my eyes here from a moral perspective.
16 years old is a kid. A 16 year old with a full grown adult who's in his late 20s or early 30s is straight fucked up territory. There is a gulf of difference in that dynamic. Age of consent doesn't mean anything in my eyes here from a moral perspective.
Aww what the fuck, I never heard about this before. Fucking hell, I liked the guy and was sad when he died, but fuck, should have been more aware of this. What kind of excuse did he have in mind, he could have literally chosen to be with any one of amazing women both in and out of the industry but he chose a 16 year old?! Fuck that.
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Some of you are so quick to instantly hate someone else because of random article, while article being basically:
PAUL WALKER IS PEDOPHILE*
*well not literally, but he had relations with underage girl**
**there is no proof
PAUL WALKER IS PEDOPHILE*
*well not literally, but he had relations with underage girl**
**there is no proof
Yep. The guy had a 14 year old move in with him who he did drugs with for years as well as getting her pregnant.
No idea how people can even listen to Aerosmith's stuff now.
I changed it to the article title/added the source so everyone could focus on the article proper
Fair enough, but don't you think it is a bit dishonest to label someone something when it is not accurate? Saying he is not a pedophile is not defending what he did.
This happens all the time in controversial topics on here, and anyone attempting to add a little clarity gets accused of having bad intentions.
Like should we just go around calling people who groped someone a rapist? Or people who punched someone a murderer? Someone comes in and says "now wait a minute he didn't actually kill the guy, just punched him" "OMG are you saying it is ok to punch people then??!"
Exactly.
Just because someone explains what the definition of a pedophile actually is and suggests maybe Paul Walker doesn't fall under that category until we know more information, that doesn't make what Paul Walker did any less messed up. Some people think it's giving Paul Walker a pass by not lazily calling him a pedophile. It's not, but words matter. Because using the wrong words means you may tackle the problem incorrectly.
Going off this article it sounds to me that Paul Walker may be guilty of preying upon or exhibiting predatory behavior toward underaged girls. That's heinous enough in my book. There are a lot of men who are predators toward underaged women and they often get away with it because they can show proof they're not actually pedophiles and depending on what state they're in, they actually could have been abiding by age of consent laws. So if this behavior disturbs you, use the right words and the right terminology so you can properly fight the problem and push for laws that can truly address 15-17 year-old girls being preyed upon by older men with fame or power.
Please don't post out of ignorance. It looks reflects very poorly on you.
Based on the article linked, that would also be incorrect.
For a forum that gets so hung up on semantics when criticism applies to them, I'm surprised by some of the posts.
This totally came up when he died. People didn't care then. And I doubt too many people care now outside of making knee jerk wtf posts.
I'd be interested in hearing some of the women speak on what the relationship was like.
Best summary.
So they can't prove anything actually happened and only brought it up now, years after he died, because he can't defend himself?
Sounds more like clickbait than legitimate accusations to me.
So if 16 is legal age in most places whats the problem here? Its sleazy and immature, and in this specific state a crime, that seems to be about it to me. Why would this be touched on in a fluff piece biography?
The whole "there's no proof" thing is irrelevant.
He was apparently in a relationship with 2 girls at the age of 16. One when he was 28, and the other when he was 33. That's gross regardless. Even if the relationship for the first 3 years involved no physical intimacy, it'd still be disgusting because you're basically grooming someone.
He was a grown ass man involved with kids. And make no mistake, 16 years old is a kid regardless of the dumb ass logic of consent laws in Europe and elsewhere that people try to bring up. This dude wasn't 18 or something. He was a man with a decade of adult life behind him.
Part of the reason I'm sure it didn't generate a bigger outcry is because 16 is really the number at which the line starts to blur from a strictly legal standpoint, and then you can get into the whole Europe/Canada/most of the US discussion.
If she had been 14, it's an open and shut case. Honestly should have been open and shut in CA if their age is 18.
If she had been 14, it's an open and shut case. Honestly should have been open and shut in CA if their age is 18.
I would think it's legal exactly for these cases, where adolescents have different levels of maturity in that age range. It's also why people of up to 21 years, around here at least, might still get judged in court like teenagers.
When Are We Going to Address How Paul Walker Had Relationships With Underage Girls?
What is there to address?
He is known to have had relationships with girls who were underage, 16 years old to be specific. He should've been charged for it since it was against the law in those states, but short of the 'victims' pressing charges combined with his status as a celebrity in a pre-#metoo world I seriously doubt anything would've come of it back then.
But what is there to address now? This is not secret knowledge, it's been brought up here before, what do you want us to do with this info? Picket his grave? Add a footnote to his wiki that already lists the girl who was underage when he started dating her and was still his girlfriend when he died?
I read the whole article and it still doesn't give a clear indication of what the author wants to be done, other than for people to talk about it and know about it, which we already do.
Here i'll address it: It was wrong. He shouldn't have done it. He would've probably rightly been taken to task for it were he still alive today.
What is there to address?
He is known to have had relationships with girls who were underage, 16 years old to be specific. He should've been charged for it since it was against the law in those states, but short of the 'victims' pressing charges combined with his status as a celebrity in a pre-#metoo world I seriously doubt anything would've come of it back then.
But what is there to address now? This is not secret knowledge, it's been brought up here before, what do you want us to do with this info? Picket his grave? Add a footnote to his wiki that already lists the girl who was underage when he started dating her and was still his girlfriend when he died?
I read the whole article and it still doesn't give a clear indication of what the author wants to be done, other than for people to talk about it and know about it, which we already do.
Here i'll address it: It was wrong. He shouldn't have done it. He would've probably rightly been taken to task for it were he still alive today.
I'd never heard about this - I just thought it was really shitty to drive recklessly (as he died, but he might have taken more innocents with him), but it seems he had a habit of not giving a shit about others, then.
I think what you can do about it is noting it in the movie, rather than acting like it didn't happen. I didn't know about it.
It'd be like making a movie about how great Cosby was after his death without acknowledging the horrible stuff he did. That's wrong.
I think what you can do about it is noting it in the movie, rather than acting like it didn't happen. I didn't know about it.
It'd be like making a movie about how great Cosby was after his death without acknowledging the horrible stuff he did. That's wrong.
Reading the article, Walker did commit a sex crime. He met these girls in California. The age of consent in CA is 18. So there's no gray area here.
David Bowie too. And many others. Some of these guys got passes for their behavior, too. Really bizarre to me.
David Bowie too. And many others. Some of these guys got passes for their behavior, too. Really bizarre to me.
I didn't know this. WTF.
The other actors keep telling us what a great guy he was.
Legal consent or not I would still say its pretty damn weird for the guy to be hitting on school girls.
16 here in the uk but as a 36 year old I would say there would be no reasoning for myself to be getting with a 16 year old
The other actors keep telling us what a great guy he was.
Legal consent or not I would still say its pretty damn weird for the guy to be hitting on school girls.
16 here in the uk but as a 36 year old I would say there would be no reasoning for myself to be getting with a 16 year old
Are you kidding me, at 16 you can't even tie your own shoes, let alone think for yourself.*
*unless you commit murder, in that case you know full well what you are doing and will be charged as an adult.
Not everyone jumps to write hit pieces when someone dies, yet when speaking of his legacy this is definitely a stain.
Edit : Didn't see BronsonLee's post at the time of this post. Fair enough.
Why even change the thread title if you're not going to care about the distinction between a legal age of consent in a large portion of the world and sexually abusing children?
Edit : Didn't see BronsonLee's post at the time of this post. Fair enough.
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So you don't think he's a pedo, and you don't think he's a statutory rapist, what would you classify him as?
What so you mean?
I mean, it's pretty hard to defend a 30-something father dating 16 year olds in the 21st century
At best, I'm going to permanently side eye you.
At best, I'm going to permanently side eye you.
Already gross by itself. Even more gross since he would have had a teenage daughter around the same age if he was still doing it around the time of death.
I don't think they were dating when she was 16 -- they were friends, then started dating after. The rest is just speculations by tabloid magazines.
I believe some of those 16 states have laws about age difference and people in a position of power such as a guardian, teacher, etc.Yeah, despite people's expectations, most states have it as
He wasn't the driver in the accident.
People commenting on this thread, READ before posting.
But he's dead. Watch 'An Open Secret' if you want some real outrage. Hell, Brian Peck was a convicted pedo and still got work on Nickelodeon.
Yeah this has been public knowledge for decades (I have no concept of time. I'm eternal) and talked about. Apparently, he went to her folks and asked if he could see her because of the age difference. They apparently were cool with him dating her, and eventually it progressed to marriage. Some dudes don't develop as they age and still see high school sweetheart and positioning as the peek of existence. As far as I know they were good together, as batshit as this one shook out.
Yeah, despite people's expectations, most states have it as
Well, this was in California, right?
Yeah, despite people's expectations, most states have it as
In some of those states 16 only applies under certain circumstances, like if you're under 21. I'm not exactly certain of the specifics, but I know in Indiana I'd get thrown on the sex offender registry for banging a 16 year old.
Do you seriously think people click and read articles that are posted int he OPs in this forum?
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