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jph139

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16 is weird, and definitely sleazy if you're in a position of power and influence, but legal in most places and doesn't really bother me any more than the "dating significantly younger women" that's the norm for the rich and famous.
 

Thurston Last

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A famous actor had a relationship with an underage girl and your first thought is: "I gotta educate people that it isn't pedophilia if the victim is older than 13."?

Fuck you.

16 is legal in many states including all of Canada, so are we just going to ignore this fact. Or do you think straight up pedophilia is legal in Canada?

edit: and most of Europe.
 
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What he did was fucked up and illegal, but not really pedophilia unless I missed some additional information about him.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.

Don't split hairs.
 

Indelible

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I think I heard about this years ago but didn't know it was confirmed, he was a dirty bastard that would've been exposed if he was still alive.
 

zoukka

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Already hit the "not really a pedo!" phase of the thread, huh.

The definition of pedo is the sexual attaction to a child no? Having sex with an underaged person is immoral, illegal, fucked up and can be traumatizing for the victim but not necessarily pedophilia. I am not defending anyone here and the suggestion that I do is honestly insulting.
 

the_wart

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User Banned (1 Month): Downplaying sexualization of people under the legal age. The distinction between pedophilia and ephebophilia is not one which we are interested in exploring here.
Already hit the "not really a pedo!" phase of the thread, huh.

Because it's true? There is a big difference between being sexually attracted to children and being sexually attracted to people who are sexually mature (in a physical, rather than emotional sense) but legally underage.

That doesn't mean the latter is okay, but there's little to gain from conflating the two things.
 

riotous

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This was 100% mentioned when he died; but people were in exagerated celebrity grief mode and didn't want to talk about it.
 

MassiveNights

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16 is the age of consent here in the UK, so I reckon calling him a paedophile is a bit harsh. Still creepy though.
 

Oynox

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User banned (1 month): Downplaying the sexualization of minors and previous warning for doing the same. The distinction between pedophilia and ephebophilia is not one which we are interested in exploring here.
What he did was fucked up and illegal, but not really pedophilia unless I missed some additional information about him.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.
That's why the actual journalist of Jalopnik didn't use the term.

However, it is often used incorrectly in colloquial language and since ERA is only a video game board and no psychical health board... people talk colloquially about things off topic.


Also, thanks for the updated thread title.
 

Shy

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I hear about it a few years ago.
What he did was fucked up and illegal, but not really pedophilia unless I missed some additional information about him.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.
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Menelaus

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For everyone hand wringing over the definition of pedophilia, the entirety of Canada has an age of consent of 16. I think zoukka has a point that attraction to sexually mature 16 year olds does not fit the description of a pedo.

It can still be viewed as gross, and actually illegal in many US states, of course, and that's fair.
 

RedMercury

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The definition of pedo is the sexual attaction to a child no? Having sex with an underaged person is immoral, illegal, fucked up and can be traumatizing for the victim but not necessarily pedophilia. I am not defending anyone here and the suggestion that I do is honestly insulting.
Are you really doubling down
 

zoukka

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Because it's true? There is a big difference between being sexually attracted to children and being sexually attracted to people who are sexually mature (in a physical, rather than emotional sense) but legally underage.

That doesn't mean the latter is okay, but there's little to gain from conflating the two things.

Exactly. His behaviour is still wrong and fucked up as I said multiple times.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Gross, illegal (in many states), exploitative, not paedo. Debate about definition irrelevant as topic title has been updated.
 

Terra Firma

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Oct 25, 2017
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What he did was fucked up and illegal, but not really pedophilia unless I missed some additional information about him.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.
Ephebophilia is considered pedophilia by the general public and in a legal context. There are different legal penalties in some states based on the age (for example, intercourse with a child 12 and under is classed worse than a child 16 and under) but they're all considered child rape.
 

Skelepuzzle

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The definition of pedo is the sexual attaction to a child no? Having sex with an underaged person is immoral, illegal, fucked up and can be traumatizing for the victim but not necessarily pedophilia. I am not defending anyone here and the suggestion that I do is honestly insulting.

Because it's true? There is a big difference between being sexually attracted to children and being sexually attracted to people who are sexually mature (in a physical, rather than emotional sense) but legally underage.

That doesn't mean the latter is okay, but there's little to gain from conflating the two things.

I'll save you both some time. Most of the people that point this out say

"Uh actshually he's an ephebephile!"
 

Shy

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Oct 25, 2017
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The definition of pedo is the sexual attaction to a child no? Having sex with an underaged person is immoral, illegal, fucked up and can be traumatizing for the victim but not necessarily pedophilia. I am not defending anyone here and the suggestion that I do is honestly insulting.

Exactly. His behaviour is still wrong and fucked up as I said multiple times.
Would you prefer serial statutory rapist, instead ?
 

MIMIC

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I want to say that this was being mentioned on GAF right after he died. For some reason, this sounds familiar to me.
 

Raguel

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah. This is well known about Walker. I was disgusted but then he died and everybody was worshiping him. He's gone now but his affinity for under age girls was and still is gross.
 

TheRealDennis

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Oct 26, 2017
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16 is legal in many states including all of Canada, so are we just going to ignore this fact. Or do you think straight up pedophilia is legal in Canada?

edit: and most of Europe.
It's about timing, this is a story about a famous actor using his position to get into a relationship with a 16 year old girl. It's abuse and your first thought shouldn't be: "I gotta educate people on this now!"
 

Rowlf

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What he did was fucked up and illegal, but not really pedophilia unless I missed some additional information about him.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.
Just so we're clear: The distinction between pedophilia and ephebophilia is not one which we are interested in exploring here. We're not going to host that discussion.
 

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I saw this last Friday.

I liked the fast and furious movies but no celebrity is someone I look up to, so it didn't affect me.

Can't imagine being 33 and dating a 16 year old. What the hell goes through your mind. Christ.
 

TuggSpeedman

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Why would they complain? Normalising pedophilia is the next battleground for these people (Hollywood).

Lets not forget that a room full of the most influential actors and actresses on Earth stood up and applauded for Roman fucking Polanski.
 
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Added an edit to the OP. If mods wanna change the title to stop hair splitting over pedophilia I'm totally fine with it.
 
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