Hey now, just because he loves her works and wants to make films of them it doesn't mean he subscribes to her worldviews!
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And you're batting for Snyder because you like him. Pot meet Kettle. There's literally no reason to even bring Snyder up in this thread other than people like you preferring another franchise over the one Gunn directs for. Cut it out.
Dude was born in 1966 and posted this kind of shit as of 2010? Sounds like an extremely disturbed and immature individual.
Nope, I think Snyder is one of the worst main stream directors to ever work in the industry. Just making a point.
Dude was born in 1966 and posted this kind of shit as of 2010? Sounds like an extremely disturbed and immature individual.
Huh?I have no idea, but I assume there's something since he was mentioned specifically.
I love this mindset of "Adults can't be immature unless they're mentally disturbed" - Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening when you get older. :/
You're assuming that's the equivalence I'm making, when I am not.
My original thought experiment was, if the original actor behind dredging up these tweets had not been Cernovich, would the outrage be more or less the same?
We've seen this kind of hit job multiple times, from actors across the political spectrum. Clearly sometimes dredging up old writings produces worthy outrages, but other times it does not.
Is this incident not worthy of outrage simply from the fact that Cernovich started this? Or because the tweets themselves are rather innocuous?
When I get older? I'm 33, but even 8 years ago back in 2010, I really wouldn't think of making dumb ass jokes like that on Twitter.
There are quite a few degrees to "mentally disturbed."
Hindsight is 20/20. You probably said pretty dumb stuff 8 years ago, even if not on twitter.When I get older? I'm 33, but even 8 years ago back in 2010, I really wouldn't think of making dumb ass jokes like that on Twitter.
There are quite a few degrees to "mentally disturbed."
Anyone that finds these offensive needs to go watch Bill Maher's newest HBO comedy special.
Yeah, when you get older. And I don't believe you for one second that you didn't make dumb jokes ten years ago.
When I was a teenager or even still in college? Sure, but not after that and certainly not publicly on a platform like Twitter.
Who dug this up really shouldn't matter in ones response. What matters is that this is 10 years old and that he already apologized.
I don't see why it matters in whether you find the jokes offensive or not. It would be rather wonky morals if they depend on the messenger.
Agreed 100%. When you're accusing someone of paedophilia and getting FBI involved without any proof than jokes and no actions, you know the source of those accusations is on a war path without logic. This is Weird Mike we're talking about here, dude lives for conspiracies, pedophilia accusations like Pizzagate, feeling oppressed by criticism, and defending Nazis/Trump.Marrec, cmon, you're just trying to get people worked up via a "thought experiment". I go into topics every now and then where I too think hyperbole and a departure from sanity have taken place and try my best to debate with people I think are doing themselves more harm than good getting worked up to the levels they do. You can encourage what you think might be self-reflection via debate at times when it's appropriate. Everyone has different personal thresholds, and yeah sure, sometimes people on the left might fly off the rails. Is that the answer to your thought experiment you're looking for?
There's often a big difference between people who appear to be well-meaning, or at least think they are genuinely well-meaning when they're getting angry about say, a South Park episode (because that seems to be the go-to comparison in this topic), and the kinds of people who spread pizzagate and obviously know they are pushing paedophile accusations falsely/etc.
Just today I was trying to debate with people seemingly unable to accept the GOG apology and reasoning for something. The other week on here it was challenging people convinced a White House press statement was coded Nazi language simply because of some numbers, no doubt, 100%. So yeah, it's possible for angry campaigns/comments that might not be 100% grounded to come from different outlets. However, as I just said above, most people were angry about GOG on the basis of feeling like they were seeking justice. Not peddling paedophilia conspiracies and knowingly inserting themselves into unfounded hounding of someone.
Multiple social media "hounding" campaigns can end up being mistakes or a questionable use of human energy and time, but not every situation is 100% equal. This one has fake paedophile accusations and other nonsense like involving the FBI, which clearly gives it it's own special place in shit mountain.
Really interesting to see the overlap between people who are downplaying this but supported the recent firing of a video game writer for her twitter comments.
Really interesting to see the overlap between people who are downplaying this but supported the recent firing of a video game writer for her twitter comments.
Youve never said dumb stuff since graduating from college? Go live a little.
People say stupid shit. As long as its not mean spirtied, its absolutely okay to say stupid shit.
Really interesting to see the overlap between people who are downplaying this but supported the recent firing of a video game writer for her twitter comments.
I don't see why it matters in whether you find the jokes offensive or not. It would be rather wonky morals if they depend on the messenger.
I'm not going to condemn the guy and call for his head over these old tweets and blog posts, but a lot of that goes a bit beyond dumb stuff in my book. Taking the time to write it out and post on Twitter is also quite a bit different to joking around with friends while at a bar or wherever, for example
Really interesting to see the overlap between people who are downplaying this but supported the recent firing of a video game writer for her twitter comments.
I'm not going to condemn the guy and call for his head over these old tweets and blog posts, but a lot of that goes a bit beyond dumb stuff in my book.
Agreed 100%. When you're accusing someone of paedophilia and getting FBI involved without any proof than jokes and no actions, you know the source of those accusations is on a war path without logic. This is Weird Mike we're talking about here, dude lives for conspiracies, pedophilia accusations like Pizzagate, feeling oppressed by criticism, and defending Nazis/Trump.
Really interesting to see the overlap between people who are downplaying this but supported the recent firing of a video game writer for her twitter comments.
So you respect the person James Gunn is in 2018 but have lost respect for him because of the person he was in 2009, the same person that he grew from to become the one he is in 2018? You don't think people change? Or maybe it doesn't matter and they have to be perfect from birth until now or else fuck 'em?It's still shitty. I'm so tired of this toxic-ass perspective and mindset from all these dudes in Hollywood. I love GOTG, I love the MCU, but I hate these gross fucking jokes and I've lost a lot of respect for James Gunn as a result. People say we knew about this forever, well I didn't.
Talking about ERA or last years drama is basically the only way they get past page 3 of any given thread.
So you respect the person James Gunn is in 2018 but have lost respect for him because of the person he was in 2009, the same person that he grew from to become the one he is in 2018? You don't think people change? Or maybe it doesn't matter and they have to be perfect from birth until now or else fuck 'em?
Really interesting to see the overlap between people who are downplaying this but supported the recent firing of a video game writer for her twitter comments.
I don't give a shit who dredged this up.
It's still shitty. I'm so tired of this toxic-ass perspective and mindset from all these dudes in Hollywood. I love GOTG, I love the MCU, but I hate these gross fucking jokes and I've lost a lot of respect for James Gunn as a result. People say we knew about this forever, well I didn't.
And I've been in enough threads on people making scummy toxic humor to know a lot of people in this threads are being hypocritical as fuck. Shame on you. Stick to your convictions or get new ones.
ScarJo just barely slid under by a breathe's hair for her apology, as like PR-scanned as it was, it still mattered to me as a trans persom.
Hopefully Gunn apologizes, if he's really over that part of himself, he'll do it, instead of the bull shot deflection so many in this thread are using to defend him.
It's threads like these that make me like when people call Era a liberal echo chamber and SJW paradise. Yeah I fucking wish.
It makes me sick to think other places on the Internet put me under the same banner and mindset as the hypocritical dudes in this thread.
i'm absolutely sure that James Gunn will lose no sleep over me having lost a big chunk of respect for him. Can't say the same for some people in this thread.So you respect the person James Gunn is in 2018 but have lost respect for him because of the person he was in 2009, the same person that he grew from to become the one he is in 2018? You don't think people change? Or maybe it doesn't matter and they have to be perfect from birth until now or else fuck 'em?
i'm absolutely sure that James Gunn will lose no sleep over me having lost a big chunk of respect for him. Can't say the same for some people in this thread.
Like I said, I'm interested in an apology. I want to hear in his own words How he feels about his past behavior and how he has moved on from it. And I can use my own personal judgment to determine if I forgive him or not.
He is under no obligation to make this apology and I am under no obligation to accept it.
But I actually really hope he does have a sincere apology because like I said I like his work. I still hate this
Dude was born in 1966 and posted this kind of shit as of 2010? Sounds like an extremely disturbed and immature individual.
i'm absolutely sure that James Gunn will lose no sleep over me having lost a big chunk of respect for him. Can't say the same for some people in this thread.
Like I said, I'm interested in an apology. I want to hear in his own words How he feels about his past behavior and how he has moved on from it. And I can use my own personal judgment to determine if I forgive him or not.
He is under no obligation to make this apology and I am under no obligation to accept it.
But I actually really hope he does have a sincere apology because like I said I like his work. I still hate this
Hopefully Gunn apologizes, if he's really over that part of himself, he'll do it, instead of the bull shot deflection so many in this thread are using to defend him.
BREAKING: James Gunn has been removed as director of the Guardians Of The Galaxy series after a batch of old social media dispatches were unearthed that touched on areas like pedophilia and rape.
I don't give a shit who dredged this up.
It's still shitty. I'm so tired of this toxic-ass perspective and mindset from all these dudes in Hollywood. I love GOTG, I love the MCU, but I hate these gross fucking jokes and I've lost a lot of respect for James Gunn as a result. People say we knew about this forever, well I didn't.
And I've been in enough threads on people making scummy toxic humor to know a lot of people in this threads are being hypocritical as fuck. Shame on you. Stick to your convictions or get new ones.
ScarJo just barely slid under by a breathe's hair for her apology, as like PR-scanned as it was, it still mattered to me as a trans persom.
Hopefully Gunn apologizes, if he's really over that part of himself, he'll do it, instead of the bull shot deflection so many in this thread are using to defend him.
It's threads like these that make me like when people call Era a liberal echo chamber and SJW paradise. Yeah I fucking wish.
It makes me sick to think other places on the Internet put me under the same banner and mindset as the hypocritical dudes in this thread.
Oh boy
Disney Severs Ties With 'Guardians Of The Galaxy' Director James Gunn Over Old Offensive Tweets
https://deadline.com/2018/07/james-...he-galaxy-disney-offensive-tweets-1202430392/
Oh boy
Disney Severs Ties With 'Guardians Of The Galaxy' Director James Gunn Over Old Offensive Tweets
https://deadline.com/2018/07/james-...he-galaxy-disney-offensive-tweets-1202430392/
He did. A long time ago. Before anyone dredged it up.Hopefully Gunn apologizes, if he's really over that part of himself, he'll do it, instead of the bull shot deflection so many in this thread are using to defend him.
Oh boy
Disney Severs Ties With 'Guardians Of The Galaxy' Director James Gunn Over Old Offensive Tweets
https://deadline.com/2018/07/james-...he-galaxy-disney-offensive-tweets-1202430392/