My parents this very weekend mentioned "the boxes of votes they pulled out from under the table" when I brought up Trump attempting to overturn a fair and legal election. Over eighteen months later they still believe this shit.
The common theme I've noticed about most people who believe this trash is they have no idea how votes are counted or how the process even works to begin with, and their bar for "evidence" is veerrrry low. So they see a van with people taking boxes out and use that as "proof" that they're unloading fake ballots. But they're so embedded in the conspiracy that they completely reject any explanation of it, even when the explanation is really simple.
The thing that drives me the most crazy though is how this was litigated in court more than 80 times, and they lost. Every. Single. Time. So to believe this, you have to also believe that there's some mythical evidence that wasn't already presented and dismissed as bullshit by dozens of courts, including the very Trumpy SC. The lack of any common sense or basis in reality from those who subscribe to this is amazing to me. And what is it that they often say to defend it? "It's just common sense that there was fraud."
* sighs deeply *
That's the South in a nutshell."I just know in my heart they cheated." There's no hope for those people.
We're the perfect example of why better education is so important.That's the South in a nutshell.
"It just didn't feel like xyz to ME." Therefore it can't be true.
He said my problem is that I put any trust into systems designed by men and that I can only trust God.
When I said that to my uncle about them failing dozens of times in the courts I said if you don't find that valid then you believe that the entire system is corrupt, and without any type of proof that's pure conspiracy thinking. He said my problem is that I put any trust into systems designed by men and that I can only trust God.
I walked out of the room, you can't level set with these fucking nut jobs.
My step brother and his wife still believe Trump won and Biden is a pedo. His dad tried to call him on that bullshit and he just won't listen. I feel bad for my stepdad because he just can't talk to his son anymore because of Trump.But God isn't the one who came up with this bulls... oh never mind. >_<
I don't envy anyone who has to deal with this in their family. I'm super lucky in that the few close family members who did vote for Trump the first time got sick of him pretty quickly and voted for Biden.
We're the perfect example of why better education is so important.
You fail that and you get a bunch of morons that vote for republicans without any real brain power behind their decesion making besides tribalism.
No matter how bad Trump got, I knew a lot of people here that just brushed it all off.
Its like sports to them.
"Well, I got to vote for the home team. Thats our guy."
One thing they didn't mention today, unless I missed it (I did have to mute from time to time for work): almost all these many thousands of threatening e-mails and phone calls have gone unpunished. I don't have a link, but I read a story detailing how few have been investigated, much less charged or prosecuted.
When I said that to my uncle about them failing dozens of times in the courts I said if you don't find that valid then you believe that the entire system is corrupt, and without any type of proof that's pure conspiracy thinking. He said my problem is that I put any trust into systems designed by men and that I can only trust God.
I walked out of the room, you can't level set with these fucking nut jobs.
I think it's a horrible blend. Southern evangelicalism is a kind of prosperity gospel. If you have faith and are doing good, that should basically be reflected in your socioeconomic status. Therefore, if you're struggling or poor, like many many rural minority families, you must not be Jesus-ing hard enough. And if you're white, it's because the godless liberals are preventing your ship from coming in. You're not poor, you're pre-rich. It bears no resemblance to what Christianity actually teaches but it's why all these politicians are able to toss around very basic Christian ideals and rural whites lap it up.I think it's mostly racism and bigotry that drive these people not ignorance. These people want to go back to a time where they could put minorities in their place like the good old days.
I heard the "Trump was winning at night, we went to sleep - and then Biden got a whole bunch of votes from somewhere while we were sleeping! That isnt normal! Who was counting those??" from a few family members and it just really is incredible how little they understand about how anything works.The common theme I've noticed about most people who believe this trash is they have no idea how votes are counted or how the process even works to begin with, and their bar for "evidence" is veerrrry low. So they see a van with people taking boxes out and use that as "proof" that they're unloading fake ballots. But they're so embedded in the conspiracy that they completely reject any explanation of it, even when the explanation is really simple.
The thing that drives me the most crazy though is how this was litigated in court more than 80 times, and they lost. Every. Single. Time. So to believe this, you have to also believe that there's some mythical evidence that wasn't already presented and dismissed as bullshit by dozens of courts, including the very Trumpy SC. The lack of any common sense or basis in reality from those who subscribe to this is amazing to me. And what is it that they often say to defend it? "It's just common sense that there was fraud."
* sighs deeply *
Vice news has done a couple of stories about election threats over e-mail and phone. Their last video had one of their reporters go as far to call some of those people back to ask for interviews:
The common theme I've noticed about most people who believe this trash is they have no idea how votes are counted or how the process even works to begin with, and their bar for "evidence" is veerrrry low. So they see a van with people taking boxes out and use that as "proof" that they're unloading fake ballots. But they're so embedded in the conspiracy that they completely reject any explanation of it, even when the explanation is really simple.
The thing that drives me the most crazy though is how this was litigated in court more than 80 times, and they lost. Every. Single. Time. So to believe this, you have to also believe that there's some mythical evidence that wasn't already presented and dismissed as bullshit by dozens of courts, including the very Trumpy SC. The lack of any common sense or basis in reality from those who subscribe to this is amazing to me. And what is it that they often say to defend it? "It's just common sense that there was fraud."
* sighs deeply *