she did
the question was "how did you react you bernie saying a woman wouldn't win"
the audiance laughed at CNN
then warren said "i disagreed with him"
then she went on to talk about women in politics
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January Democratic Debate: Des Moines, Iowa, 9PM ET CNN
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the question was "how did you react you bernie saying a woman wouldn't win"
the audiance laughed at CNN
then warren said "i disagreed with him"
then she went on to talk about women in politics
In fairness, on the topic of immigration, Bernie was a Republican four years ago. But everybody deserves a chance to reinvent themselves!
Actually CNN straight up said she didn't do well right when it ended
Well she has a history of being truth flexible at best and Bernie has video evidence of him supporting women running for office since 1987 including it being well documented that he tried to get Warren to run instead of himself in 2016.
So I don't think she HAS to have been the one who lied...but I would literally wager any amount of money on it.
What obvious reasons? This was before Bernie announced his campaign. Wouldn't it have been better to sink his campaign just as it started? What about after his heart attack when his campaign was at an all time low? But instead it got released 3 weeks before Iowa when her campaign is at the lowest from her high.
But even Warren hasnt Claimed that Bernie said anything that specific.
I'd also like to ask whether you think Warren's history with lying about things like her heritage has any bearing on the possibility that she is lying in this case.
Well one of their 37 commentators did at least. I forgot who
I don't see why this is "mask off." Warren does do worse in head to heads and lots of Americans routinely say in surveys that they don't think women would do a good job as president. Do you think these statements are true and meaningful?
I'm actually stuck in 2018, the year in which the Nina Turner-led Our Revolution hired on and then kept on her personal consultant with positions indistinguishable from Trumpism
what makes you think Warren was lying about her heritage, lying requires knowledge of falsehood
Let's be clear, the issue isn't that Bernie said the country is sexist and electing a woman is difficult, the issue is Warren already knows that and she doesn't need anybody else telling her, and then this dude is calling her a liar to cover his ass.
I mean....it wouldn't be the first time he's done/said something tonedeaf. That cenk endorsement comes to mind.
Because
1) It hurt Warren on a personal level
2) No reason to shit on a friend at that point in time
3) Save ammo for when you need it, if you want to unload it
You're naive to think this would "sink" a campaign. It's a distraction, but a timed one either by plan or by accident.
Warren is pissed he said it and is probably pissed he's still denying it. So be it.
How can he give insight into the misunderstanding if it's a misunderstanding? If they're both confused then neither of them should be capable of providing that insight. It's possible they're both stressed and talking past each other.
their friendship is good for both, who takes advantage of this is biden, this fight is stupid
We don't know the truth, and we don't know the context either.
You are simply taking your presumptions and making them fact.
Best questions of the night;
CNN: Bernie, you claim you didn't say a woman can't be president.
Bernie: That is correct, I would never say that.
CNN: Warren, what did you think when Bernie said a woman can't be president?
:roll eyes: Show that bias CNN
CNN: Bernie, you claim you didn't say a woman can't be president.
Bernie: That is correct, I would never say that.
CNN: Warren, what did you think when Bernie said a woman can't be president?
:roll eyes: Show that bias CNN
also, it is worth considering that this has been one of the largest narratives advanced by the clinton campaign in the wake of 2016
like, their post-mortem was basically "the poor whites like racism and don't like women"
when even the most successful female presidential candidate of all time is saying "america might not be willing to elect a woman", I don't see how it's somehow SHOCKING EVIDENCE for someone to say "america might not be willing to elect a woman"
the mask has been removed, and underneath it, we've found... a very unfortunate viewpoint that might be extremely representative of america! what a shitty scooby doo episode, man
damn but I guess we all have that one friend like Liz who tries to throw you under a bus by lying and then just comically falls in front of the bus themselves
What in the world makes you think a 79 year old White guy and a 70 year old white woman with 95 percent similar politics from the northeast would make a good ticket?
That's Turner's wheelhouse.
She fought to keep and promote an anti-immigrant Trump supporter right wing extremist in Our Revolution so she definitely has a close relationship to Republicanism.
You think she genuinely believed
Were Cherokee recipes? Like, come on. She just didnt think she'd get caught.
It's too close to Iowa and Warren is too far behind for them to be friends right now. The timing of all this is no accident.
Are you completely unaware of the fact that Warren is known for overly embellishing stories about herself?
And really, Sanders is technically a centrist due to his right wing /center right history & relationship with the gun industry.
I just want either Sanders or Warren as President and the other a stalwart ally in the Senate. I hope they can resolve this rift.
You know one clear way to demonstrate that you believe a left-wing populist can and should be president? Drop the fuck out and stop embarrassing yourself while you still have some dregs of respect from anybody at all.
Great way to build support for your candidate to all those assholes replying. By calling Warren a snake. Disgusting.
I still think Bernie probably told her that sexism might keep a woman from winning, which some of the anonymous sources have claimed, but since Bernie is so assertive that he didn't say anything at all, I'm starting to wonder if he just legitimately remembers the conversation differently than she does.
Sad to see their friendship seems to have taken a blow.
Sad to see their friendship seems to have taken a blow.
So like, it could have just been the convo went:
Warren: Well, I'm thinking of running of president.
Bernie: That's going to be very hard, a lot of sexist voters out there.
And Warren felt this answer was like telling an obese person at a steak restaurant how BMI is correlated with heart disease.
You know, technically correct but kind of an asshole move in the context.
Or there could have been 1000 other versions of the convo since we weren't there.
Warren: Well, I'm thinking of running of president.
Bernie: That's going to be very hard, a lot of sexist voters out there.
And Warren felt this answer was like telling an obese person at a steak restaurant how BMI is correlated with heart disease.
You know, technically correct but kind of an asshole move in the context.
Or there could have been 1000 other versions of the convo since we weren't there.
Yea! She needs to drop out, it's Sanders time to shine baby!
And also admit you're a filthy liar who tried to dismantle the image of Dear Leader on his path to glorious victory.
I know Bernie has a tendency to lie until he absolutely cannot and then come clean, I know that Bernie also has a tendency to put his foot in his mouth and say shit like "you can't expect to be elected just because you're a woman" as he joins a diverse group of women running for president who announced long before him reducing them all to identity politics.
I know these things, and I also know Warren says he said it, so I trust her over the man.
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this cookbook and I'm not really following your logic. Can you explain this story, provide verifiable sourcing, and elaborate on how you feel it proves she knowingly lied about her heritage?
Repulsive. Nauseating, even. I have no choice but to join the #bidenbunch now
I'm guessing that he mentioned it so offhandedly that he thinks that conceding any ground to her on this cartoonishly shit smearjob is below him
Which is correct
Google it. If you think I'm just making things up why bother continuing this conversation?