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Japan has Splatoon 2 plushies made by Sanrio that include a whitewashed Marina
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Which one was that? Btw, you saying that reminded me of a case of a character from Saiki Kusuo no psi-nan that was a normal gyaru on the manga but in the anime her skin tone was tanned which is basically the contrary
It can't be Caska because a Ganguro have darker skin tone artificially and well, it's a medieval series.
This sounds creepy.
It's so it'll sell better.
I'm gonna guess you're one of those people who doesn't get the what the big deal is with blackface.
My mind doesn't immediately jump to white washing when I see those plushie, it just looks like two recolors of the characters to me. I'm not Japanese so I don't know if this is a common thing as some have said I was just offering my take on it didn't mean to upset.
I'm not a racist if that's what you're inferring, someone should be able to have an opinion that doesn't match your own without being lumped together with people who approve of blackface.
Tall vs Short
Older vs Younger
Octoling vs Squidling
Pale-skinned vs Dark-skinned
etc. etc.
These are two characters presenting friendly, superficial choices in the game, and their whole stagecraft is representing that sort of difference and embrancing it. It's like the designer was too ignorant to understand the whole POINT is that these characters contrast in aesthetics.
Older vs Younger
Octoling vs Squidling
Pale-skinned vs Dark-skinned
etc. etc.
These are two characters presenting friendly, superficial choices in the game, and their whole stagecraft is representing that sort of difference and embrancing it. It's like the designer was too ignorant to understand the whole POINT is that these characters contrast in aesthetics.
You don't have to be Japanese to realize that this is a fucked up thing no matter what.
Looking at the art makes me think that it's a problem with the materials, like it was cheaper to just use the same for both
So that it's more appealing under "Bihaku" beauty standards to increase it's sale's potential for the casual audience who lives by those standards, like the current girl gangs under that article?
Urggh, I can't imagine actual Japanese Marina/Off the Hook fans would like this shit. At least I fucking hope so.
She just looks plain worse on top of everything else.
I get that the it could definitely be seen that way lol, but I don't think the poster meant it that way. I saw the pic and read his comment and just thought to myself "yea I agree, that looks good"
I highly doubt this would be the case. I don't think a difference in shades would cost that much on a mass production item. Surely not enough to compromise what the characters should look like. Especially from a company like Nintendo.
Edit: Especially from a company with money like Nintendo.
That's really all on the specific argument though. A tacit approval of something is fair game to lump in with explicit approval, for instance.
People shouldn't have a free pass to pretend their arguments are different from ones that say the same thing, or insist they're not racist if the things they do or say don't actually point to them not being racist. That would be dumb.
User Banned (1 Week): Dismissing concerns surrounding racism
It would also be dumb to think a color change on a plushie is white washing but here this thread exists.
I'm a Godzilla fan and I've seen a ton of Godzilla related toys that are complete recolors from the original monster colors which makes me think it's a pretty common thing in the Japanese toy industry. I never personally liked recolors myself and want a toy or figurine to look accurate to how the characters appears.
Of course that means it's possible it's not malicious but the fact that Pearl has more accurate skin colors and the rest of the colors are more or less accurate makes me think it was probably whitewashing.
What's dumb is equating the expression of doubt over the assumed intent of a mass-produced toy to endorsing people who paint their faces black to disparage a race of people.
They literally market skin-whitener because huge segments of the fashion culture consider darker skin tones ugly. It's a massive market. They promote the idea that darker skin is unattractive, and it's an extension of other social attitudes that darker skin implies corruption or ill-will.
Even putting that all aside, if you don't understand why making an established character shift/change their race for marketability isn't significant, that displays meaningful ignorance about the importance of identity (racial or otherwise). I honestly think it's something you should think about. And just to help you "get it," I think it's completely reasonable to assume that you wouldn't understand the issue with people wearing black-face, because it's a very similar set of concepts, and you're outspoken against the idea of people criticizing this situation. I'm happy if that's not so, but the initial assumption would be an informed one.
Well Japan is known to do this. High profile case of it just recently.
A two-week old account with only one other post embracing that maybe it's good that they changed the character to appeal to people who don't like dark-skinned people is a real bummer to see.
You find whiter versions of black characters cuter and more appealing. You've got to delve deeper as to why. White supremacy is a hell of a conditioning drug. Remember the Dolls Test from the 1940s.
Naw
found it!
The anime is called Punchline
That's not even close.Just in case someone, for some reason, doesn't know what she looks like normally:
super fucked up.
probably not as severe because there's no systematic and historical precedent to make characters have darker skin than they do to appeal to racists?
No no no, I'm not saying it's good. I don't leave many replies and posts because I am mainly using this site to read news, rumours and interesting stories.
From Japanese people? Probably just skip it so it wouldn't make money
Are you sure that wasn't just a prototype design? Her design in the visual novel reflects more to the anime, than that ne.Naw
found it!
The anime is called Punchline
This is indeed a very interesting video. I wonder why those black kids favour white dolls instead of black dolls. If I have to choose between a white and a yellowish one or between a black and yellowish one, I would definitely choose the yellow one, because it looks more like me.
Naw
found it!
The anime is called Punchline
Oh, I had no idea about it. I wouldn't call her a ganguro/gyaru in that case tho, since she's not from a real life anime based on her clothes. Probably tanned would be better?
Kids get conditioned by white supremacist society that black people are lazy, criminals, and not good people so they take that racism in and project on to these dolls. Much like what youre doing.
I thought it was just a question of aesthetic preferences? If they had made Marina's skin blue, then I'd prefer it to both white and black, because I love the colour blue. I can assure you that I have never viewed or treated any people differently because of their race or ethnicity.
Whether you realize it or not, your arguments sound really similar to those who defend blackface. "It has no malicious intent," "it's just makeup."
You said that it's just a recolor and I honestly don't understand how that suddenly makes making a black-looking character into not looking black okay.
Hey buddy. Thanks for taking the time to quote me. Too bad I don't give a shit that you've given me the benefit of the doubt, because I don't even know who you are and your compassion means little to me. If you really, truly care about this as much as you've shown - enough to spew the crap you did above at somebody based on 1 post - then you could at least read my 2nd input into the thread. And similarly to those 2 posters (who have disappeared, what a surprise) I'm happy to extend that offer to you - perfectly happy to tweet/contact Sanrio and ask why, then post their response here. But you won't take that offer up, because you just wanted to have a crack at somebody on the internet. Am I right? Thanks.