This stuff like extended yada is just cultural mind control and people using a fixed amount of phrases they hear from media, not some emulation of children. But the forced idol / anime voice thing is not that common. Outside of kimoi otaku circles. I know plenty of Japanese people who will outright mock the obviously forced voices when hearing them on TV or whatever.
Nia definitely is a child-character but what annoys me the most about her is that she was a good female character wearing a non-revealing outfit up until *that* scene where they basically threw everything out of the window and made her [random fanservice character #109352].
Do any children act like that though? They're always friendly, calm, listening and at most naive. Children tend to be headstrong, loud, active and generally don't care what parents tell them to do.
You could play nothing but Western games and avoid "ultra violence" entirely (I play mostly Western games and MK is the only gore-y game I buy). Very easily too. Now, stick to Japanese games and tell me it'd be easy to avoid this particular trope. It's absolutely not the same at all, and what's more, you're free to complain about violence in Western games! I just don't understand why this discussion only takes place when people criticize creepy otaku crap.
Yeah I kinda dreaded but understood it was inevitably heading in that direction but Nia's character definitely nosedived for me when her pivotal backstory reveal was so strongly tied to her being in love with Rex.
What Japanese games are you playing? I can think of most Nintendo stuff being free of it, but JRPGs are absolutely plagued. Fighting games are plagued. Mobile games are plagued. While it's mostly shooters (I mean, yeah) that are hyper violent for the most part.
While this is true to some degree, it also depends on where you put the threshold.
I can see this perspective. For example, MK doesn't bother me because it's beyond absurd, but RE2 bothered me a bit with the realistic gore. And my tolerance for creepy anime is very, very low indeed, lol.
I ain't the sort to go into these threads if only because of the rampant bickering, both the downplay for concern of the issue as well as the disregard of people trying to explain against the generalization, and the casual xenophobia, I will say that a majority of Japanese games that are developed are not actually "plagued" by this sort of fanservice, only that the west genuinely just chooses to focus on the games that enter their purfew. If you think the sort of japanese games you see on news or from forums like this is that incredibly commonplace, all I can say is you're mistaken.
I have a low tolerance threshold too, which kind of surprisingly is I think the result of this shit being everywhere.
That's... not right. FGO gets boatloads of money (we're talking billions of yen) from Japan alone and, well, that's one game that is especially guilty of this trope (and shit, they don't even pretend that certain characters are older than they are despite the fact that they are so heavily sexualized, which is even more skeevy). Trying to frame this as some kind of barely-present niche seems rather disingenuous at this juncture.
Sure, I get ya. I wasn't calling it barely present though, in my defense. But I also wouldn't say the field of gacha mobile is still representative of the majority of japanese games out there. Though I will admit I was mostly talking about traditional software titles when I responded to him. FGO and the rest of its kind is VERY rampant with it.
I guess I have a very cynical view of the matter but I generally think that "cute girls doing cute things" shows aimed at men are designed that way because sex sells, that there's an implicit sexualization or objectification to the whole thing because they wouldn't do the same type of show with boys.
MagnaCarta 2 is Korean.Japanese media definitely has issues with infantilizing female characters, either by making them young or seem young. Even the adult women tend to be naive, a bit dumb, act childlishly and have hight-pitched, girly voices. One trope that's kind on the opposite of the adult in a child's body is the trope of a woman character who has the full body of an adult, but the mind of a child. Extreme case in point from Magna Carta 2:
According to canon, she is 12 years old (because her race "ages fast"), but she looks like she's 22 and behaves like she is 2.
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