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Jason Schreier: 343 worked on various PVP and PVE hero-based prototypes for Halo Infinite
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343's leadership is so messed up if they legitimately thought this was a route the mainline games should follow for any major portion of the development process.
That would have been cool as a game mode but choosing it over standard halo gameplay? Nah no thanks.
Ugh this makes too much sense
No wonder the game seems to struggle. They want to make a game very different from what the fanbase actually wants and wasted all that time when the answer was clear, do a halo ass halo game.
Its fine if they did this kinda thing after the game releases as a test. That's what being gaas is for. But out of the gate???
No wonder the game seems to struggle. They want to make a game very different from what the fanbase actually wants and wasted all that time when the answer was clear, do a halo ass halo game.
Its fine if they did this kinda thing after the game releases as a test. That's what being gaas is for. But out of the gate???
At this point it seems pretty clear that 343i is doomed to work on Halo forever, regardless of how many times they fail. The studio does not have the freedom to do anything else.
Halo is one of the last games standing with classic style multiplayer in it. That fact makes it stand out. Making it a hero shooter would have been a mistake not that what they have now is perfect but it's recognizable as Halo.
I've always been in favor of screw the fans and letting developers do something new. I remember when people were pissed over Sekiro reveal and how it wasn't dark souls 4.
This sounds super cool, hopefully they implement this as a mode or a spin-off, or something. Maybe a different IP.
However, at it's core, Halo infinite is super solid game, it's just doesn't have the variety to keep it fresh.
This sounds super cool, hopefully they implement this as a mode or a spin-off, or something. Maybe a different IP.
However, at it's core, Halo infinite is super solid game, it's just doesn't have the variety to keep it fresh.
Say that 343 is "doomed" to work on Halo is hilarious. Working on Halo (all manifestations of it) is their charter. That's why they exist. It's why someone would choose to work there. You don't apply for a job at 343 and expect to work on Doom or Uncharted. 😂
There was a funny interview with IGN where Bonnie Ross was particularly fond of Apex Legends. Some people took that as Halo was definitely getting a BR, would be funny if it was actually because of the heroes.
I neeed that Halo documentary
I neeed that Halo documentary
Honestly a hero based firefight mode based on the Spartan cores you find in the campaign could be kinda badass
I'd rather they tried something new that they wanted to do.
I'd imagine something like this gets scrapped because it isn't working. That said, Halo is in desperate need of a rejuvenation, and something like this would be perfect. The series has been around for twenty years, it needs a shift if it wants to stay relevant at all.
I mean I can easily see it, different Spartans with different specialities. We've already seen that many times so it fits.
That's fair but I feel they could deliver what people want first and then experiment.
It's kinda like cod. They make what people want and then do a side mode. If people like it they make more like it.
Hm…. Also this would explain the armor core system working the way it does. Could each core have been its own hero?
At this point it seems pretty clear that the Air Force is doomed to fly planes and jets forever, regardless of how many times they fly. The Air Force does not have the freedom to do anything else.
I'm of the opinion that developers should do what they want first. Now, this may not translate to sales or to fans being happy but I'd like to see the devs make what they think would be a good game.
This might come as a shock to you, but I just think the concept of a studio that was created for the sole purpose of shepherding one franchise that they aren't very good at shepherding, might be kind of a structural/conceptual failure.
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Not even surprised, considering their two prior Halo games felt like "how do you make Halo play like the hot shooter of the day".
Thoughts on Halo under 343 aside, I would genuinely be interested in seeing 343 work on a big game that isn't Halo. At best, they seem to have ideas that are limited by the IP and expectations around it.
Thoughts on Halo under 343 aside, I would genuinely be interested in seeing 343 work on a big game that isn't Halo. At best, they seem to have ideas that are limited by the IP and expectations around it.
I'm not a fan of the idea and I think its a shame they wasted time and one on it. I totally expect the fan base - specifically the Reddit types that take things too far - is about to have another angry overblown fit over this.
Edit: Edited the above due to my misunderstanding of the game development process.
Edit: Edited the above due to my misunderstanding of the game development process.
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343 needs a huge shakeup after the last decade of clown shoes decisions
Ok that's good to hear
Infinite's combat mechanics are the best the series has ever had, and were compelling enough to push the game ahead of any other shooter launched last year in terms of general public opinion. Infinite's problem isn't its core mechanics, it's its lack of content.
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It's prototyping, you're meant to waste time in it by throwing stuff and see what sticks.
"Six years in development" 🥴
I wish people understood that design decisions can change drastically between releases and that it's not a linear path of purely optimized and set-in-stone decisions.
I wish people understood that design decisions can change drastically between releases and that it's not a linear path of purely optimized and set-in-stone decisions.
Yeah, the problem 343i seems to have with, well, everything is that they don't seem capable of doing proper user research that helps them understand what fans want... or they just don't care and do their own thing.
I have no problem with a Halo hero shooter existing as a mode or spinoff game. But they need to show that they can consistently execute and deliver the things people give a shit about as the bare minimum, before branching off and doing other things.
I have no problem with a Halo hero shooter existing as a mode or spinoff game. But they need to show that they can consistently execute and deliver the things people give a shit about as the bare minimum, before branching off and doing other things.
Do you know long they stuck with this/other prototypes though or when the current vision landed for them?