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Meelow

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Oct 31, 2017
9,195


I'm surprised this wasn't made a thread yet. This is awful, the crunch that these devs have to do is insane and now it will be even worse with the delay to December 10th of Cyberpunk 2077.

Some broader context:


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zombiejames

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Oct 25, 2017
11,933
This is sick. How messed up does management need to be to ask people to ruin their lives like this?
 

qatak

Member
Oct 27, 2017
545
yeah i finally got around to canceling my preorder the other day. feeling even better about it now. i'm pretty bummed by everything cdpr has pulled this year.
 

Wrexis

Member
Nov 4, 2017
21,247
Just to be clear, that's 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, from 9am to midnight (assuming an hour's break over that period for food, etc).

Insane.

I sometimes do 50 or 60 hours a week and doing 100 hours IS NOT THE SAME.
 

Alexzan

Member
Sep 24, 2019
230
Italy
Yeah, this is obviously awful. And if I have to be honest, I'm not ruling out another delay. Probably won't happen, it's unlikely, but it's 2020 (and crunch time).
 

Samiya

Alt Account
Banned
Nov 30, 2019
4,811
People should remember that they still have to crunch for a post-release patch and then the next-gen patch for next year.

100 work weeks means you only have 9 hours per day to anything outside of work: sleep, eat, family, friends, commute, life
 

JaseMath

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,384
Denver, CO
Yikes. People complaining about the inevitable next gen patches post-launch should read this and think about the crunch involved.
 
Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
Just to be clear, that's 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, from 9am to midnight (assuming an hour's break over that period for food, etc).

Insane.

I sometimes do 50 or 60 hours a week and doing 100 hours IS NOT THE SAME.
People should remember that they still have to crunch for a post-release patch and then the next-gen patch for next year.

100 work weeks means you only have 9 hours per day to anything outside of work: sleep, eat, family, friends, commute, life
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Revolver

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Oct 27, 2017
149
I routinely work 70-80 hours a week. If I don't want to do it anymore I do have the option of quitting and/or finding a new job. You act like they're chained to their desks.
 

Deleted member 13077

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
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Oct 27, 2017
2,513
As I said in the other thread, CDPR upper management are scum. Transphobia enabling, workforce breaking scum.
 

8byte

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Oct 28, 2017
9,880
Kansas
...but what does Game Informer have to say about it?

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DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,494
Why is management so poor that they even consider doing this

They should just stop setting release dates till after a game is done at this point. Dont even announce it till you are in post development and release within 6 months of announcement
 

DontHateTheBacon

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,380
Waiting for the "I, too, have bad working conditions, so that makes it okay and we shouldn't feel bad for them!" post.

Surely it's being fired up as we speak. This is brutal. The timeline of this game has been insane, and the missteps management has made publicly have only compounded this mess. I feel terrible for the people working those hours.
 

Greywaren

Member
Jul 16, 2019
9,933
Spain
It's okay, guys, crunch culture is part of the videogame industry, this is how it's supposed to be!

Seriously, fuck CDPR and any other company or person who believes this is "the only way to do it".
 

Rowsdower

Prophet of Truth - The Wise Ones
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,572
Canada
Christ, that's inhuman. The max I've worked has been 60 hours in a week, and I felt like shit. These poor people.
 

Loud Wrong

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Feb 24, 2020
14,059
People who think going gold means development is over should be paying attention to this story and the one about the delay caused by the fact that the game isn't ready for next gen consoles.
 

Tokio Blues

Member
Sep 14, 2018
551
So..... why don't delay it 3 months and give people a normal life? Come on, the game is gold, wtf. If they trying to sell it and optimizing the game for next gen, just delay it. Period.
 
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Meelow

Meelow

Member
Oct 31, 2017
9,195
I routinely work 70-80 hours a week. If I don't want to do it anymore I do have the option of quitting and/or finding a new job. You act like they're chained to their desks.

Right, I forgot it's easy quitting your career and finding a new job.

Especially in 2020.

Do you even hear yourself?
 

Jogi

Prophet of Regret
Member
Jul 4, 2018
5,452
Between this and their transphobic bullshit it was pretty easy to cancel my pre order i've had for who knows how long. As much as I want to love the game, it would be hard to push this aside while playing through it.
 

Kyuuji

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Nov 8, 2017
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Stop It

Bad Cat
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Oct 25, 2017
6,352
Worked to death for a luxury product.

In 2020, this is just tragedy layered over farce.
 

LetsEatSnacks

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Oct 18, 2020
1,798
United States
This sucks but that whole last part about the former dev seeing a friend who looked physically ill seems a little bit of a stretch. While it might be true, it kind of reads like "I know a guy who knows a guy and he said..."
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
85,378
Houston, TX
People should remember that they still have to crunch for a post-release patch and then the next-gen patch for next year.

100 work weeks means you only have 9 hours per day to anything outside of work: sleep, eat, family, friends, commute, life
Jesus.......

Like I said before, fuck CDPR.
 

y2kyle89

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Mar 16, 2018
9,506
Mass
I've worked a 12 hour day once for a go live and was miserable the day afterwards, but I got that day off, I can't imagine having to log in and just start working again...

Edit: I did the math wrong, it'd be like working 20 hours days. I can't even conceive that...
 

Deleted member 18944

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Oct 27, 2017
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I attempt to document every classic response to tweets like this:
  • What's Jason's agenda with this reporting?
  • People aren't working 100 hours.
  • Jason only talks to one source, I doubt that everyone does this.
  • Crunch happens in every industry, this isn't new.
  • Why does he have to steal the developer's spotlight, can't he just let them have some happiness for once?
  • I mean at least they are getting bonuses.
  • Their overtime pay is going to be crazy then.
  • Well they aren't forced to work 100 hours a week, they could just, ya know, quit.
  • If its so bad, why do they still work there?

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Iacomus

Member
Dec 26, 2018
803
As much as I am sickened to hear this. It wont matter to the Cyberpunk fans, CD Project Red could kill their pet and they would still support them.
 

Coi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,808
Where we draw the line of "CDPR is a trash company" and "employees are free to choice a company to work, specially on high skill works/companies like the CDPR talent"?
I'm on the second choice.
 

Bear

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Oct 25, 2017
10,881
Nobody has explained to me why they couldn't have just hired more devs instead of upping crunchtime. Especially in COVID times when everyone is remote, why isn't this a possibility?
 

tapedeck

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Oct 28, 2017
7,982
In a full 7 day calendar week there only exits 168 hours..so that leaves *checks notes* 68 hours for these people to eat, sleep and shit.
 

Deleted member 26156

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Oct 30, 2017
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I routinely work 70-80 hours a week. If I don't want to do it anymore I do have the option of quitting and/or finding a new job. You act like they're chained to their desks.
Fuck off with this misery Olympics. There is NO defense for them being worked this inhumanely hard (or working 70-80 hours a week for that matter), REGARDLESS if they could find another job. That's not even mentioning that we're in the middle of a global pandemic right now with a tight job market globally.
 

DontHateTheBacon

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,380
I attempt to document every classic response to tweets like this:
  • What's Jason's agenda with this reporting?
  • People aren't working 100 hours.
  • Jason only talks to one source, I doubt that everyone does this.
  • Crunch happens in every industry, this isn't new.
  • Why does he have to steal the developer's spotlight, can't he just let them have some happiness for once?
  • I mean at least they are getting bonuses.
  • Their overtime pay is going to be crazy then.
  • Well they aren't forced to work 100 hours a week, they could just, ya know, quit.
  • If its so bad, why do they still work there?
Whew, a factory for terrible takes, lol. That's incredible.