Jason Schreier: "a CDPR dev told me recently that they'd just clocked a 100-hour week."
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Pretty much any job where such a run is such a run is not unexpected (Cops, Medical Professions, etc) they immediately get some days off to offset the beating their mental health just took.
I doubt this is the case here.
I have defended the 6 day work week but 100 hours is absurd. Hope whoever did this is getting paid out the ass and about to get a long well earned vacation.
I had a 80 hour couple of work weeks once and I was just fucked and completely burnt-out for months due, can't imagine it going on for a year+, getting worse over time, with the end point moving often. It's no wonder the industry bleeds talent I suppose.
Also I think doing it from home would make it 100x worse on top, already feel like a prisoner at home, you basically eat, work and sleep over and over with no escape.
Also I think doing it from home would make it 100x worse on top, already feel like a prisoner at home, you basically eat, work and sleep over and over with no escape.
CDPR will give 10% of revenues to employees as extra crunch bonus pay
CD Projekt RED plans to divide 10% of its yearly earned revenues to its 1,100+ employees as a bonus for their extra crunch time.
10% of its yearly profits, in 2019 it made $41m and CP2077 will only increase that for 2020, they will get a nice slice.
If what you say however is correct, the 100 hour staff per week get fuck all then yes that is awful however its not how i read this news
Man, I work from Monday to Friday for about 48 hours each week, those include my lunch break which I take everyday from 1 to 2 pm. Can't imagine working for 100 hours in a week even just once, hell I don't think I'd reach that number even if I had to go to an event or something to represent my company during the whole weekend.
100 hour weeks are insane. It’s impossible to get the best out of your talented employees as it’s physically impossible for your brain to stay sharp under those conditions. I’m sure many of their employees are uber-passionate about what they do and are dedicated to seeing it through under any circumstance. But in my experience, for every one of those workers you’re gonna have a majority of others who need work life balance to do their best work. This will continue across the industry until there’s a union, plain and simple.
Maybe they are doing that. Why is everyone here assuming otherwise?
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You're right, they are absolutely doing that but keeping it a secret from everybody.
Schrier has already spoken to employees that have informed him it was required by staff
This.
You work to live, you do not live to work and those defending abusive work hours need to wake the fuck up.
New page so I'm just repost this lmao
Here's your free Crunch(TM) bingo card to use whenever Crunch gets reported on.
The still ravenous hype for this game despite all the problems at CDPR will never fail to shock and disappoint me
So that’s why they are trying to release next year instead... /s (or not)
So just to avoid confusion:
You believe that these employees are free to choose between working a normal 40h week and doing a 100h crunch?
Or that they knew they'd be working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, when they signed up for the project?
And if you think that, or even that that's possible, I want to know what your assumptions are based on, fella
I know people that worked in factories 12hrs a day, 7 days a week for decades. (That's 84hrs btw!)
The one thing they all had in common was whenever they had vacation or time off, these dudes would go fucking nuts in decompression mode. It was the equivalent of a sailor who spends 6 months at sea and blows all of his money in one week of shore leave.
I bet the people that work there are going to explode once they can take time off to decompress.
The one thing they all had in common was whenever they had vacation or time off, these dudes would go fucking nuts in decompression mode. It was the equivalent of a sailor who spends 6 months at sea and blows all of his money in one week of shore leave.
I bet the people that work there are going to explode once they can take time off to decompress.
Reminder that crunch is mandatory there:
Cyberpunk 2077 Publisher Orders 6-Day Weeks Ahead of Launch - Bloomberg
Cyberpunk 2077 Publisher Orders 6-Day Weeks Ahead of Launch - Bloomberg
'It's just deadlines. Don't you know of a deadline? Lolz'
Fuck off.
This studio has been under crunch for over a solid year. You're just a simp.
So, do you work for Uber/Lyft? Because those companies are pretty far from being bastions of workers rights, and its well documented how they abuse their contractor status employees.
I worked a few 14 hour days at my previous job, a lot of days well into the night. Days like that were because of terrible management, 100%. That was nothing compared to what these developers are going through and even that was enough to really, really fuck me up mentally.
People that brag about working long hours are idiots
People that brag about working long hours are idiots
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They still have a completed game on their resume and chances are after shit like this they will look for a job elsewhere anyway. Your 60 bucks aren't going in the devs' pockets.
Some broader context:.CDPR will give 10% of revenues to employees as extra crunch bonus pay
CD Projekt RED plans to divide 10% of its yearly earned revenues to its 1,100+ employees as a bonus for their extra crunch time.www.tweaktown.com
10% of its yearly profits, in 2019 it made $41m and CP2077 will only increase that for 2020, they will get a nice slice.
If what you say however is correct, the 100 hour staff per week get fuck all then yes that is awful however its not how i read this news
if they delay the game to 2021, the crunch will just continue for however long it's delayed for
i've seen multiple reporters say that delays rarely decrease crunch
it's always gonna be "the final stretch!" to management
I haven't been following the game but I thought the PS5/XSX versions were supposed to come out when the consoles launched before the delay
Are the next gen versions coming out after the initial release date and theyre hoping the backwards compatibility is enough?
If CDPR is promoting work/life balance during self-imposed crunch, that their PR team is going out of their way to fail at promoting what great strides they're taking to counter these 100 hour crunch horror stories.
Unfortunately we live in a capitalist society and that's not going to change. Either adapt or just lay down. No one said it's supposed to be easy.
This is a disease in this industry and I have no idea how this gets fixed. Hell I don't think most people who play games are willing to accept what happens to games if it does get fixed.
Can we formally request a separate topic for 'do you work in an industry involving crunch or crunch yourself' because it's probably a worthwhile exercise, judging from where things go in threads like this?
I don't know if it's a good idea or not/where it could or should go.
Happily straddling the fence on this topic, I am honestly not that educated on the topic and we need the likes of Schreier/Sterling/etc to keep banging the drum.
I don't know if it's a good idea or not/where it could or should go.
Happily straddling the fence on this topic, I am honestly not that educated on the topic and we need the likes of Schreier/Sterling/etc to keep banging the drum.
Exactly, why point out abuses and try to make it better? We should just accept inequity.
Top class post here, can't even read the OP with this response, jobs grow on trees right? Like it's easiest thing in the world to change jobs.
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This is downright offensive. Instead of advocating for better conditions, it's "if you don't like it, leave".
In before a capitalist talks about how we can't confirm this is a CDPR employeeSome broader context:
Even if you spread this out over the entire week it's still like 14 hours a day, including saturday and sunday. That's working from 8 am to 9 am each day, or perhaps even 10 pm with breaks included (if those even exist during crunch)
HOW is this even legal?
HOW is this even legal?
Agreed, awful practices if true.
Fair distribution of bonuses is required
Before you get banned, I just want you to know that your takes are even more garbage than mine. And that's saying something.
Er the exact same way software development teams avoid crunch. Its a simple solution, but not one that sits well with video game consumers for titles like cyberpunk
"I let the boss poop in my mouth, so I don't see why they can't take it too!"
We have some nice grunts in this thread. I appreciate your dedication to submission.
We have some nice grunts in this thread. I appreciate your dedication to submission.
Or games don't need to have insane scopes or scales that 90% of the playerbase will barely touch
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Guess who are most likely to work long hours and put their soul into work.
Young men.
Guess who then regret it when they realise how fucking stupid that is.
Old men.
Don't be a regretting old man. Stop defending work til you drop. Seriously.
