I believe the game you're describing is Evolve by Turtle Rock Studios.
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Jason Schreier - BioWare Plans A Complete Overhaul for Anthem
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I believe the game you're describing is Evolve by Turtle Rock Studios.
Well the game still sold decently and at this point maybe the combined failure of ME:A and Anthem would have been worse for the reputation/perception of future projects than putting in the money and time to create a good narrative around Anthem, similar to FFXIV (that now has the most subs it has ever had).
Granted, it's going to be a hard sell and tough road ahead for Anthem. Remaking FFXIV into what it is today was probably an easier task, and presumably BioWare will still be chained to using the terrible Frostbite engine. People can at me over calling Frostbite terrible if they want, because that engine was never ever built w anything but Battlefield in mind and quality of culture be damned is likely the single biggest negative feedback loop that has effected the quality of Biowares output.
When you're constantly dealing with hacking in simple features that are then unstable and break constantly it takes away from the teams ability to actually realize, prove, iterate, and polish the game at all. Not too mention would create a negative feedback loop w culture and organizational decision making.
Granted, it's going to be a hard sell and tough road ahead for Anthem. Remaking FFXIV into what it is today was probably an easier task, and presumably BioWare will still be chained to using the terrible Frostbite engine. People can at me over calling Frostbite terrible if they want, because that engine was never ever built w anything but Battlefield in mind and quality of culture be damned is likely the single biggest negative feedback loop that has effected the quality of Biowares output.
When you're constantly dealing with hacking in simple features that are then unstable and break constantly it takes away from the teams ability to actually realize, prove, iterate, and polish the game at all. Not too mention would create a negative feedback loop w culture and organizational decision making.
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THAT'S IT!
I actually liked the character design and concept but things just didn't work out for the game I guess.
The core gameplay felt good in Anthem, it's just that everything surrounding it was completely botched.
I hope they can pull this off. I'll definitely be checking it out if they do.
Nobody would buy Anthem 2.
I hope they can pull this off. I'll definitely be checking it out if they do.
Nobody would buy Anthem 2.
I'm conflicted. On the one hand, glad they're trying to save the game. But it might all just be a waste of money. As others have said, FF14 was already part of a popular, established franchise, and No Man"s Sky was an indie game so far cheaper to fix.
I don't know if Anthem can be saved at this poi t.
Who the fuck would buy it?
I don't know if Anthem can be saved at this poi t.
Who the fuck would buy it?
In fairness, it is probably far cheaper to try and fix an existing GaaS game than roll the dice again and try with a new one built from scratch.
Core of the problem of Anthem is that the game is designed as a one massive playground. There's basically only one map where the devs expect people to spend most of players' time doing randomized missions and tasks. There are proper dungeons but there's only a few of them. It gets old real fast.
I can't imagine how would they overhaul the game from that.
I can't imagine how would they overhaul the game from that.
Still sunk cost fallacy, even if a miracle happens and they turn things around.
No. Stop asking for this. EA is a multi-million dollar company, they can hire more people and fix this while also developing other games. FFS if you don't like it just ignore Anthem.
Well kudos for sticking it to then. Anthem looks like it could have been good.
At least it's not F76 which every fibre of my body wants to die.
At least it's not F76 which every fibre of my body wants to die.
Get rid of the slow walking in first person in town, make it optional post story ending, get rid of the loadings, implement more random events in a bigger map, make loot interesting, give mobs and IA and then the game becomes solid.
Final Fantasy was a name worth saving.
Fallout is a name worth saving.
These are beloved IPs.
Anthem is a new IP, the better thing to do would be to just give the overhaul the role of a sequel.
Just like Street fighter was horrendous and Street Fighter 2 onwards fantastic.
Fallout is a name worth saving.
These are beloved IPs.
Anthem is a new IP, the better thing to do would be to just give the overhaul the role of a sequel.
Just like Street fighter was horrendous and Street Fighter 2 onwards fantastic.
Industry: Vote with your wallets.
Customers don't buy Anthem
Industry: Wait what? No not like that!
Customers don't buy Anthem
Industry: Wait what? No not like that!
Crystal tools wasn't the easiest thing to deal with at the time and, based of some of the team's explanations, is still causing trouble for the team to implement features today. I think any overhaul isn't going to change the base engine of the game. SE literally killed projects to rally much of the company to FFXIV and figure it out. That's what made SE seemed to stop dead in its tracks during the middle of that generation. Bioware still has a similarly tough road.
So why are they trying to redo Anthem, and not redo Andromeda and restore the original vision of that game?
Andromeda was a single player game beyond saving. Anthem fault is design choices and barebone product. Andromeda was fucked up from the core.
Also there is no money to be earned through mtx, expansions in Andromeda, while Anthem will still be played if they fixed it by 2020-PS5 relaunch.
Fuck all those who buy the game Bioware, just drop the whole thing and move on /s
Yeah no, I think this game is salvageable and remember it took about 1 year to year and half to put this whole game together, a year or more could definitely help it. Fix it, add content and release it with next gen and of course make it a free upgrade to those who bough it, they might even disrupt Destiny if they can release it first by next gen, provided that it will be a great game
Yeah no, I think this game is salvageable and remember it took about 1 year to year and half to put this whole game together, a year or more could definitely help it. Fix it, add content and release it with next gen and of course make it a free upgrade to those who bough it, they might even disrupt Destiny if they can release it first by next gen, provided that it will be a great game
If, and it's the worlds biggest fucking if, they could turn it around then it absolutely could be a great game. There's some neat ideas in there, the flying was cool. But christ was the content barebones.
I found Anthem to have a really solid core, just seemed like it could use a lot more time in the oven. I'm totally fine with BioWare giving this another shot. It could turn into something really cool.
It's really frustrating that they're dedicating what must be massive resources to salvaging Anthem, but I think for them it's in part about undoing the reputational damage that Anthem has caused for their studio.
I won't be playing it but I'm interested to see what comes of this.
I won't be playing it but I'm interested to see what comes of this.
I think this is the case too. Like in the past few years the only other dud Bioware had was what, Dragon Age 2? And even that wasn't that bad it was just pretty clearly budget constrained and so reused a ton of content in a really dull way.
Anthem is like a whole other level of misfire for them, so they probably want to be able to go "Look, we made good on it, you can still expect quality from us." Especially if they're making another Mass Effect in which case they will want to be able to distance themselves from the studio that made Andromeda.
Even the name of the game sucks. They ought to take some of the assets and move on to the next Mass Effect game.
Really a lesson of don't release a game until it's ready. These GAAS games all seem to fail at this yet time and time again, here we are trying to salvage them. I guess Destiny got lucky as it was one of the first games and everyone wanted a piece. But it's not the way to go to release a shoddy, half finished product in the first place. They need to have enough content initially to see them through several months with a roadmap in place that constantly adds new stuff.
At its core Anthem is a great game that lacked content and had several issues (which they did fix to an extent) but it was too little, too late and now it's an uphill colossal struggle to not only fix the game but change the perception of the title for good in most people's eyes. Hats off in they can do all that. But it's going to be very difficult.
At its core Anthem is a great game that lacked content and had several issues (which they did fix to an extent) but it was too little, too late and now it's an uphill colossal struggle to not only fix the game but change the perception of the title for good in most people's eyes. Hats off in they can do all that. But it's going to be very difficult.
I just can't believe they watched the response to the horribly unfinished and buggy Fallout 76, and then decided to release the unfinished and buggy Anthem three months later. It honestly blows my mind.
Please go watch the Noclip documentary about FFXIV. It's not a case of "if square can do it then anyone can."
Mass Effect game is universe where they can do so much more, many stories can be told in it, they don't have to go back so Sheppard.
Everything about Anthem is plain ridiculous. They would need to reboot pretty much everything including the story so might as well go make another game.
Mass Effect is my favourite video game IP, they managed to create an incredibly deep and solid sci fi world that can lend itself many different stories or even genres. There's room for a lot more where those games came from. Of course I want more Mass Effect.
As for Anthem, I got EA Access to play it, and despite loving the customization and flying mechanics, I was bored to death within a couple of hours. I have zero interest in its world and narrative content, it doesn't feel "authentic" but just written to fill a GAAS structure. I'm curious to see what they will do, but I don't have much hope for it, and am much more eager to hear more about that new ME project, though that probably won't be anytime soon.
ME would only be interesting if they. Just rebooted it. It has legacy there but also legacy people hate. Needs a fresh start.
DA seems to have a following but they have always been a bit average to me personally. Just nothing really stands out. Not terrible but bit crazy amazing. Strictly average.
At least Anthem was something new and fresh. Would rather then out full effort into make that great instead of another DA.
I don't think Anthem is unsalvageable. I just don't believe EA and BioWare are willing or capable of putting in the necessary work. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
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