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Steamy Manatee

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Oct 18, 2022
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I can see why this is newsworthy but I can also see why he could come in, fix things then leave. Especially when his role at Xbox Publishing probably pays more
 

RdN

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Oct 31, 2017
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I've always been under the impression that it was a temporary and emergencial position, really.

He made sure the game shipped (for better or worse), made the plans for the future and now goes back to the job the liked.
 

Azerth

Prophet of Truth - Chicken Chaser
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Oct 27, 2017
6,176
time to see if 343 has changed for the better and move halo in an upward direction or cont the downward direction its been heading
 

vixolus

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Sep 22, 2020
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Even if Staten's role was intended to be temporary, seems like something you could save for after the launch of Season 3 in about a month rather than on the day of people losing their jobs.
 

Cerulean_skylark

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account.
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Oct 31, 2017
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The game itself shows very little future outside of gimmick community maps honestly. The developer still has potential. Time to do something else.

I mean this is the third fps halo in a row where the opinions I've seen are resoundingly meh (I only played 4 and basically checked out then and there). But I heard the strategy games were decent. Maybe they have potential, but it doesn't appear that it lies in original halo fps content.
 

Kyussons

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Oct 25, 2017
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It wont surprise me if MS plan is to close down 343 mid term. The way the studio operated, with an under staffed internal dev team, with a ton of contractors doing the heavy lifting under an inept management has been a trainweck for many years.
 

m23

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wow, he was one of the main reasons I was at least a bit optimistic about the future of Halo. Just...wow.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I mean this is the third fps halo in a row where the opinions I've seen are resoundingly meh (I only played 4 and basically checked out then and there). But I heard the strategy games were decent. Maybe they have potential, but it doesn't appear that it lies in original halo fps content.
That's pretty much where I stand. Time to see what else they can do within the Halo universe that held back by the Halo trilogy formula. Those strategy games weren't them.
 

Vinc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pretty devastating news. I'm back to not having much hope for Halo in the short term, as much as it pains me to say.

It wont surprise me if MS plan is to close down 343 mid term. The way the studio operated, with an under staffed internal dev team working with a ton of contractors doing the heavy lifting under an inept management has been a trainweck for many years.

I don't think they would close it down, Halo is a mainstay franchise. But it's becoming very clear that it's not working, I expect the studio to go through significant changes.
 

Welfare

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Oct 26, 2017
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No confidence in the future of 343 and Infinite if they were hit hard by the layoffs and Staten is leaving.
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looking bad for 343 feels like they couldn't really deliver what MS was expecting from them despite unlimited resources and time.

Halo Infinite is in a great spot so it's the right time to leave.
It is ? Thought player numbers are quite down and people here are complaining all the time about the game.

Maybe it's just era.
 

Azerth

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Oct 27, 2017
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It wont surprise me if MS plan is to close down 343 mid term. The way the studio operated, with an under staffed internal dev team, with a ton of contractors doing the heavy lifting under an inept management has been a trainweck for many years.
i dont think they will close it down. but its def going to be going through some major changes and will be awhile before we see the next halo
 

ToddBonzalez

The Pyramids? That's nothing compared to RDR2
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Oct 27, 2017
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I mean this is the third fps halo in a row where the opinions I've seen are resoundingly meh (I only played 4 and basically checked out then and there). But I heard the strategy games were decent. Maybe they have potential, but it doesn't appear that it lies in original halo fps content.
What sold better Halo Infinite or Halo Wars 2?
 

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User banned (1 week); Platform war rhetoric, multiple prior bans for similar
The Halo franchise is dead Micro, just accept it. The MCC was nice to have all Halo together in a pack but it's time to move on.
 

n0one

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Jan 3, 2023
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RIP to Halo Infinite campaign DLC. Sounds like 343i will be focused on MP for a while.
 

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XGP with Staten wasn't great.
Halo Infinite is still garbage a year after launch.

Doesn't seem this move will change anything for either division.
 

RoboitoAM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looking bad for 343 feels like they couldn't really deliver what MS was expecting from them despite unlimited resources and time.


It is ? Thought player numbers are quite down and people here are complaining all the time about the game.

Maybe it's just era.
It isn't just ERA

Infinite is hardly ahead of MCC player count on Steam, and I assume the same for Xbox. Microsoft has dropped the ball on Gears and Halo so hard that it's laughable.

Thank goodness for them that they still have Forza
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Appreciate the work he did for Infinite, albeit behind the scenes. 343i struggled with having a unified vision before he cleaned things up, so hopefully 2023 will be a better year for Halo
 

Pez

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Oct 28, 2017
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Damn, scuttle the ship.

It's dead, Jim. It's dead.

The legacy this studio is going to end up having...
 

BobLoblaw

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Oct 27, 2017
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Under his watch, 343 went from being a dumpster fire to a well-maintained dumpster. Makes sense now that the dumpster has been stabilized.
 

Abrasion Test

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Oct 27, 2017
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Everyone's going to point at Halo Infinite's issues but the absolute miss that is the Halo Paramount+ show has to bring up questions about the studio's competency as a whole. If they can't get the game right or the multimedia expansions then something needs to change.