They had a bunch of games within literally first couple months. Arms, splatoon 2, Mario odyssey.
Well said.IMO it is arrogant and/or 'elitist' to expect your consumers to pay $500 for merely high res or RT-ed versions of games they could play on their old system.
It is NOT elitist for those consumers to hope for a cycle of development that will make more ambitious use of their new hardware without legacy constraints.
The promise of a new gen has always been about the latter. And now we're to feel bad to hope for that, apparently.
And yes, as you've said, I think most PS4 owners are probably very happy with how Sony's handled the system, and would be hoping for the same intensity of focus on PS5.
Well I expect early next gen ps5 exclusives to have a 1 second fade to black or something. As the gen continues, the loading might increase, or not since engines will be more optimized to use the SSD more properly. Who knows, whatever it will be I'm happy for every second shaved off.Are we genuinely thinking that PS5 games will have no single loading screen ever, no matter what you do in-game?
Am I crazy or was this never actually a thing? I swear I remember it being a short lived rumor because we have proof Sony demonstrated Spider-Man load time improvements on PS5. I mean it was negligible sure, but if a PS4 game has been shown to still have load times then PS5 games absolutely will.Are we genuinely thinking that PS5 games will have no single loading screen ever, no matter what you do in-game?
Who's bitching? I'm just pointing out the potential battle Microsoft could have with this no next gen exclusive approach. Calm down.Good, don't bitch when The Outer Worlds and other titles don't show up on PS platforms!
Well yeah, but that person said launch. I'd say that makes the last time exclusives were the best launch games was Wii U?They had a bunch of games within literally first couple months. Arms, splatoon 2, Mario odyssey.
Well I expect early next gen ps5 exclusives to have a 1 second fade to black or something. As the gen continues, the loading might increase, or not since engines will be more optimized to use the SSD more properly. Who knows, whatever it will be I'm happy for every second shaved off.
I think it's elitist and anti-consumer that PS5 games won't run on my PS2
This is a terrible read on the situation. Holy shit.Doesn't that mean there will be limited selection of games at launch?
No cross gen titles, no ports, no backward compatibility titles.
Well yeah, but that person said launch. I'd say that makes the last time exclusives were the best launch games was Wii U?
Year 1, yeah Switch definitely is the answer here.
Yes they can? How exactly are backwards compatibility, 3rd party cross-gen games and 1st party next-gen only games incompatible?Not at launch though. Which means maybe few months later or even a year.
Cause... really, im fine with you guys wanting Launch games to be focused on the new hardware... but when was the last time the Launch lineup of exclusives turned out to be the best of the crop?
Doesn't that mean there will be limited selection of games at launch?
No cross gen titles, no ports, no backward compatibility titles.
It is. The whole thing is unnecessary if you only work with next gen in mind. You have to have it for current gen console to stream assets which is the problem. Next gen is bogged down by current gen limits.Isn't this just a fancy loading screen? What here wasn't possible downscaled to a weaker console?
It's about best at the time. Ryse and Forza 5 was the best at that time. You get the sense that those games were intended to be played on Xbox One.
Am I crazy or was this never actually a thing? I swear I remember it being a short lived rumor because we have proof Sony demonstrated Spider-Man load time improvements on PS5. I mean it was negligible sure, but if a PS4 game has been shown to still have load times then PS5 games absolutely will.
So does Forza 5. It was my favorite launch game. My jaw dropped when I saw it in GameStop.
lolI think it's elitist and anti-consumer that PS5 games won't run on my PS2
Great news. Fuck this trend MS wants to make. Im willing to pay up to $700 for a top console that will give me graphics and gameplay I couldn't experience this generation on console, I want what I pay for.
Around 29:04.
I thought this was relevant now with MS outing their different approach.
More tidbits:
+Jason wants to do (later) raport on PS5 line up
+most third party stuff should be cross gen (AssCreed etc)
+MS is going for "titles on as many devices as possible" approach
What's to stop MS from having something like this for Xbox One games and simply having a door open to the next loaded environment for the Xbox Series X?It is. The whole thing is unnecessary if you only work with next gen in mind. You have to have it for current gen console to stream assets which is the problem. Next gen is bogged down by current gen limits.
Best post lmao!I think it's elitist and anti-consumer that PS5 games won't run on my PS2
Some will. Just wait until they port RE4 again. :)I think it's elitist and anti-consumer that PS5 games won't run on my PS2
PS4 isn't going away. It will still get support, but PS5 will have exclusives at launch that will attract buyers to upgrade, vs. just being another "refresh" for a year.
Doesn't that mean there will be limited selection of games at launch?
No cross gen titles, no ports, no backward compatibility titles.
The title of this thread answers your question.Doesn't that mean there will be limited selection of games at launch?
No cross gen titles, no ports, no backward compatibility titles.
So if Halo Infinite and next gen Forza look as good or better than what Sony has at launch for PS5, but they are also available on Xbox One, what will be the consensus. Because if that's the case, it means PS5 exclusives will be exclusive just for the sake of it.
So if Halo Infinite and next gen Forza look as good or better than what Sony has at launch for PS5, but they are also available on Xbox One, what will be the consensus. Because if that's the case, it means PS5 exclusives will be exclusive just for the sake of it.
When they demonstrate the capabilities In a few months the things you thought you know about what these systems can do will be crystal clear. This held back thing is insane, especially if you know anything about PC development.Butwhy.gif
I'm not buying a Series X to play games that are hold back by HDD limitations and an ancient Jaguar CPU.
Show me what that baby can do.
IMO it is arrogant and/or 'elitist' to expect your consumers to pay $500 for merely high res or RT-ed versions of games they could play on their old system.
It is NOT elitist for those consumers to hope for a cycle of development that will make more ambitious use of their new hardware without legacy constraints.
The promise of a new gen has always been about the latter. And now we're to feel bad to hope for that, apparently.
And yes, as you've said, I think most PS4 owners are probably very happy with how Sony's handled the system, and would be hoping for the same intensity of focus on PS5.
To be honest, I can absolutely see some games going for a 1 second fade to black because the actual loading screen might be too fast an jarring.If there is a loading screen of some kind, your going to see it for like a second.
Ooooh edgy. MS said 1 to two years not 15 years man.I think it's elitist and anti-consumer that PS5 games won't run on my PS2
If they really have this ready at launch and it's a PS5 exclusive good god they're going to dominate first year sales.
Preach brother!Great news. Fuck this trend MS wants to make. Im willing to pay up to $700 for a top console that will give me graphics and gameplay I couldn't experience this generation on console, I want what I pay for.
People were feeling pretty outraged in that other thread because this behavior of Sony was being twisted to say it's "anti-consumer"... I don't even know what to say about that thread...
Anyways, Im glad Sony is sticking to common sense and doing what has always been done. Making graphics that wont be held back by the trash Jaguar CPUs that has been the bottleneck day 1 this generation.
Over time, yes as previous gens reach EOL.It doesn't.
Games that were cross gen between PS360 and this gen sold way more on this gen. The activity was with the current gen.
Yes. While they're at it, please make sure there's no psvr1 forced compatible too. Leave the past behind and fully utilise ps5 with Psvr2.
That's how you make a next gen.
Post of the year.I think it's elitist and anti-consumer that PS5 games won't run on my PS2
Sony is a hardware company and MS is a software company.
Is it shocking to see their respective strategies? Sony trying to sell more PS5 hardware by putting their games only there.
MS trying to sell more software by putting putting their games everywhere until the Series X install base grows.
News at 11.
What I wrote earlier. Think of it as a nice gradual transition into next gen that MS is providing for their users. Not a complete cutoff. Most games bought at launch are third party cross gen titles anyway (which I really don't hear complaints about) but imagine if third parties decided to follow what some want here and develop next gen only titles once the new consoles launch. It would be kind of stupid to be quite honest.