So we aren't going to see a huge focus on cross gen titles this time around? At least that's what i'm getting. I'm probably wrong.
It's going to be slightly more for Xbox, but it's not significant in the grand scheme of things.
So we aren't going to see a huge focus on cross gen titles this time around? At least that's what i'm getting. I'm probably wrong.
New console having exclusive first party games - crazy times we live in xD
We don't know the launch dates for those games, I doubt all three are coming out within the first year of the PS5s life. If any of those games come out within the first year then that game will not take full advantage of the PS5, because it takes 3 to 4 years to develop a game, meaning it was started on PS4.So God of War 2, Horizon 2, Spider-Man 2, etc are also releasing on PS4? 🤔
no, my personal view lines up with Dark1x - I think when you buy into a console you know the approx lifecycle and we've had 6-7 great years of PS4 support. I'm happy for Sony to switch focus to a new box.
So God of War 2, Horizon 2, Spider-Man 2, etc are also releasing on PS4? 🤔
Well if that's the case that'll suck for me. I miss clean gen breaks.Are all of those games releasing in the first year of PS5?
If so, I expect yes.
Sony isn't dumb enough to dump games that may sell 10M copies each on a platform with a 100M install base onto a platform with less than 5.
Considering the budget on those games Sony will never make their money back and will have essentially wasted those full development cycles.
My question is...will Sony also have cross gen titles as well as exclusives?
Are all of those games releasing in the first year of PS5?
If so, I expect yes.
Sony isn't dumb enough to dump games that may sell 10M copies each on a platform with a 100M install base onto a platform with less than 5.
Considering the budget on those games Sony will never make their money back and will have essentially wasted those full development cycles.
I wouldn't expect all of them in the first year.Are all of those games releasing in the first year of PS5?
If so, I expect yes.
Sony isn't dumb enough to dump games that may sell 10M copies each on a platform with a 100M install base onto a platform with less than 5.
Considering the budget on those games Sony will never make their money back and will have essentially wasted those full development cycles.
I get first party but I wonder if some third parties are being arm twisted in some way or form to follow suit as well (bar of course lockhart)The first of these tweets was liked by an engine programmer at id software, just in case John's word isn't enough for some.
We don't know the launch dates for those games, I doubt all three are coming out within the first year of the PS5s life. If any of those games come out within the first year then that game will not take full advantage of the PS5, because it takes 3 to 4 years to develop a game, meaning it was started on PS4.
No it doesn't, not if they anticipated that the game would be next gen and so worked towards that. Obviously final specs wouldn't be available early on but they would have a rough idea to work withWe don't know the launch dates for those games, I doubt all three are coming out within the first year of the PS5s life. If any of those games come out within the first year then that game will not take full advantage of the PS5, because it takes 3 to 4 years to develop a game, meaning it was started on PS4.
So are you only interested in graphical advancements and basically just get the same games as now with a shiny new graphical paint on them? Not interested in CPU, I/O intensive advancements in game complexity, AI, physics, environment interaction, game world design etc. ?Im sure the games will look great. There is really no need for all this next gen anxiety im seeing here until we see the launch games on both systems in action.
First party studios have known the general next-gen specs roadmap for years come launch. They know them much earlier than third party.We don't know the launch dates for those games, I doubt all three are coming out within the first year of the PS5s life. If any of those games come out within the first year then that game will not take full advantage of the PS5, because it takes 3 to 4 years to develop a game, meaning it was started on PS4.
This proconsumer talk about the new Xbox is basically saying don't buy the system if you're not an enthusiast. It ain't going to do anything fancy except resolution, frame rate and load time.
Wait a couple of years for when it's on sale where there are next gen exclusive games.
Considering the budget on those games Sony will never make their money back and will have essentially wasted those full development cycles.
Are all of those games releasing in the first year of PS5?
If so, I expect yes.
Sony isn't dumb enough to dump games that may sell 10M copies each on a platform with a 100M install base onto a platform with less than 5.
Considering the budget on those games Sony will never make their money back and will have essentially wasted those full development cycles.
Sorry bud but those games will probably never be on ps4, they are made to sell consoles not the other way around, you think Sony stops and thinks about the 80 million ps3 consoles when they developed sequels to a game like uncharted? No, because those people either upgraded or will upgrade to play on a shiny new box.Are all of those games releasing in the first year of PS5?
If so, I expect yes.
Sony isn't dumb enough to dump games that may sell 10M copies each on a platform with a 100M install base onto a platform with less than 5.
Considering the budget on those games Sony will never make their money back and will have essentially wasted those full development cycles.
So are you only interested in graphical advancements and basically just get the same games as now with a shiny new graphical paint on them? Not interested in CPU, I/O intensive advancements in game complexity, AI, physics, environment interaction, game world design etc. ?
First party studios have known the general next-gen specs roadmap for years come launch. They know them much earlier than third party.
Okay lolApparently thats exactly what i said, thanks for putting words into my mouth so it fits your childish narrative. Easiest ignore in the world
No it doesn't, not if they anticipated that the game would be next gen and so worked towards that. Obviously final specs wouldn't be available early on but they would have a rough idea to work with
Exactly, for Sony to decide to not only not go to E3 but also come out and say "We will have an event once we actually have stuff to show" makes it clear that they have been working hard on PS5 games so they are ready for launch/launch window.Yeah, I thought it was widely accepted that the lack of new game announcements the last couple of years was due to much of WWS shifting focus towards next gen development.
They are getting Dreams, FF7:RE, TLOU and GOT.
Can you remind me what XONE exclusive games will release this year that are on pare with the games i just listed?
So are you only interested in graphical advancements and basically just get the same games as now with a shiny new graphical paint on them? Not interested in CPU, I/O intensive advancements in game complexity, AI, physics, environment interaction, game world design etc. ?
I suppose it was inevitable that this would devolve into platform warring.
most of these things you cite are quite easily scaled down between hardware generations
For example, the PS3 port of Tomb Raider didn't stop PC from getting TressFx that the consoles couldn't handle.
you actually typed 'CPU' up there like cross gen games won't take advantage of a more powerful CPU? Lol
TressFX is a graphical effect, it's not something that changes the game.most of these things you cite are quite easily scaled down between hardware generations
For example, the PS3 port of Tomb Raider didn't stop PC from getting TressFx that the consoles couldn't handle.
you actually typed 'CPU' up there like cross gen games won't take advantage of a more powerful CPU? Lol
Tell me, how you will scale down physics in next-gen GT/Forza? For example added variables will finally add proper aerodynamics and a ton of other aspects of a proper simulation.
I just realised that given that this forum has a lot of love for FromSoftware and the Souls series, all it will take for most folks on here to buy a new console is a Demon's Souls remaster on launch day!
Me included, probably...
How? We are talking about strategic decisions. Sony can go Next-Gen Only with the PS5 because they have enoug Heavy hitters this year for people that don't want to upgrade.
MS can't do that, that's why they have a different strategy which is amazing for an Xone owner.
But of course, as soon as someone posts an argument that goes against the own opinion its " platform warring", lol.
Sony can go Next-Gen Only with the PS5 because they have enoug Heavy hitters this year for people that don't want to upgrade.
Xbox will cut of all their current gen probably only a year later so the exact same thing is gonna happen for their customers it's just delayed and the early adopters instead of getting their hardware used to its full capabilities by developers day one will have to wait a year or two before Xbox provides those games.
I get that, but you are missing the point around dev time and releases.That's missing the point of first party software. They will use God of War 2 and Spider-Man 2 to drive PS5 adoption regardless of when they release or what the user base is. First party exclusives have always been more about selling the platform than individual unit sales.
Hilariously, you forget that all these 'heavy hitters' come out well before the PS5 becomes an option for preorder, let alone purchase. What does that have to do with 'people that don't want to purchase'?
Tell me, how you will scale down physics in next-gen GT/Forza? For example added variables will finally add proper aerodynamics and a ton of other aspects of a proper simulation.
That equals more body parts, more challenges (like driving without proper downforce because of the wind/temperatire), deeper customization and more flexible online in Sport mode.
You simply can't scale that. And that's an obvious example.
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What do you mean? PS5 reveal in February. GoT coming summer and TLoU2 in April. Pretty sure we can pre-order close after the PS Meeting.
I can assure you that no game in year one will use either system to its fullest capabilities.
I could see some going exclusively next-gen sooner, especially for GaaS games that are meant to be supported for the rest of the generation.I wonder how likely it would be for 3rd parties to do this when that would shut out PS4, Xbox One, and the majority of PC owners in one fell swoop.
No. When you start listing games and going 'what does Xbox have to do to match that', that's veering into list warz.
You're also wrong about why Xbox is doing this, which is weird since it's Elementary and incredibly obvious. It's all about Gamepass. Microsoft wants Xbox customers to remain Gamepass subscribers. A key component of this is keeping the stream of games coming, and giving millions of slow adopters a steady stream of Gamepass games is key.
Hilariously, you forget that all these 'heavy hitters' come out well before the PS5 becomes an option for preorder, let alone purchase. What does that have to do with 'people that don't want to purchase'?
Couldn't preorder the PS4 until after E3.
You sure Sony will announce the price in February? I doubt that.
Are we just gonna get last gen games at 4k60 or 4k30 with Ray Tracing?
They are two different games with the same name. Arcades for that matter. But alright, move the goalposts.Forza Horizon 2's Xbox 360 version is a 'different game' than on Xbox One
The Xbox 360 version of Forza Horizon 2 will be a different game than the Xbox One version and not a straight port; Instead the game will be a unique experience "inspired by the same ideas" as the...www.polygon.com
you know something we don't?Considering the exclusives during the first year of the PS5, im prety sure the biggest titles and the ones pushing the console wil be the cross gen ones.
I meant PS4 lol.
Sure. The console isn't out.Why don't you just wait to see the games and then make a decision...
The sooner Sony give up their exclusives releasing them on PC the better
I get that, but you are missing the point around dev time and releases.
Why was TLOU2 not made PS5 exclusive? What about GoT? Wouldn't those move consoles?
Those games will likely release at best Holiday 2021 or likely after that date. They will be next gen exclusive and at that point in time MS will also be on next gen exclusive.