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Jason Schreier: "play right away, download just what you need, no load times" will be some of the top selling points of the PlayStation 5
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PS5 will support three formats: in addition to disk and digital there will be streaming thought PS Now.
Yeah I fully expect the copying thing to be dealt with. I have had to download like 4-5 Call of Duty updates since October 25th. Each one was downloaded in seconds with my Fiber net. And then followed by 40-50 minutes of "copying" the data for each update. I am literally waiting over 40 minutes with the disc in the system for the update to finish copying. I chill on the PC or something while waiting. It sucks that it happens every single time. And it is never a few minutes only. Always over 40 minutes of waiting for what looks like nothing.
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maybe there will be an option to stream the games you own so you could stream a game while downloading it, then when its finished move to play locally?
Streaming will also be a thing on Xbox Scarlet and PS5. So, you can play right away.
I'll believe it when I see it when it comes to "no load times."
That's the sort of thing I've been dreaming about for a decade. When we finally reach that standard it's going to be crazy. But I have a hard time believing we're that close on consoles. 🤔
That's the sort of thing I've been dreaming about for a decade. When we finally reach that standard it's going to be crazy. But I have a hard time believing we're that close on consoles. 🤔
It goes without saying that "New videogames" "AAA First party franchises" "new IPs" will be a highlight to the next big video game console.
As someone who hasn't owned a XBO or PS4, are load times really that bad? The last time I remember any load times being obscene were 2013's Lego City Undercover.
I'm jealous of the people who play Death Stranding on PS5 with heavily cut down loading times, assuming it gets a patch to support such a thing.
Sony already said that at the start of this gen. I distinctly remember how some games got ready to play in literally 10 seconds. Then you would start the game and the rest would install in the background.
But then everything become open world and now everything takes 50 minutes to copy so you can get put into the open world right at the start.
i really dont see how they fix that next gen which textures are going to get bigger and the worlds too. the Bluray disc to SSD copying will still be limited by the read speeds of the bluray disc. the downloads will still be limited by your ISP speeds. SSDs cannot fix those two things.
But then everything become open world and now everything takes 50 minutes to copy so you can get put into the open world right at the start.
i really dont see how they fix that next gen which textures are going to get bigger and the worlds too. the Bluray disc to SSD copying will still be limited by the read speeds of the bluray disc. the downloads will still be limited by your ISP speeds. SSDs cannot fix those two things.
YES. This generation has been terrible in regards to installs, downloads and patches...
Perhaps the cartridge patent we saw has something to do with the statement? SD Express and UFS cards can reach 1GB / sec read speeds now. For comparison 16X Blu-ray is 72 MB/s.
For Microsoft, I am guess there is also the option to stream the game from XCloud while you install?
Perhaps the cartridge patent we saw has something to do with the statement? SD Express and UFS cards can reach 1GB / sec read speeds now. For comparison 16X Blu-ray is 72 MB/s.
For Microsoft, I am guess there is also the option to stream the game from XCloud while you install?
There's a couple different things they could do and something I expect MS to do with xCloud. When you buy a game digitally, it'll start the download but if you want to play it before it's downloaded, you could stream it if you want and it'll download once you quit the game/turn off the console. Obviously you would need a certain connection speed to support it but it would be a good way of getting to games right away digitally.
What, you don't like downloading a 128MB file for certain games and waiting 40+ minutes to have it copy? /s
They said the same thing for PS4.
Stock PS4 to stock PS5 will be going from a HD to a SSD.
Has anyone ever waited less than 30 minutes ? For any type of update? I swear everything takes a bit less than an hour on the copying side.
This will make a huge difference for games with a multiplayer and single player component. Let me uninstall what I'm no longer interested in.
Or needing to make 100GB free to install a 60GB game.
Or needing to make 100GB free to install a 60GB game.
Am I crazy or was Sony more or less trying to make a similar selling point in the lead-up to the PS4's launch? Not with the "no load times" claim of course, but the "download what you need" and "play right away" stuff. This feels like déjà vu.
It's an enormous change. On PC, it's one of the most noticeable upgrades you can make, and it's got true "I'll believe it when I see it" power through load screen times.
If you have a good connection, video streams don't use up a ton of bandwidth. But again, that's if you have a good connection.
Didn't Phil Spencer say something similar at the last E3/Giant Bomb interview about only installing what you need right away?
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Yes. It can change the way that a game is designed (i.e. no more masking loading times behind long walks or mountain climbs).
I would expect that only PS5 exclusives could benefit from this as this feature isn't standard on PCs (and may not be on XBOX).
I'll believe the fast (not none at all) loading times but unless devs don't have to spend a lot of time modifying their games to make them playable after downloading only a section I doubt that feature will get anywhere, we've already seen this on PS4 with barely any devs supporting it. The only way I can see us being able to play right away is if you can stream the game while it downloads in the background.
It was like that for the most part. I recall all gaming from late 2013 until like early 2015 to be that way. And then Witcher 3 happened and FFXV and some other games. I only started noticing the copying thing in the last year or two.
Well in some titles you could just install the campaign. Or play the multiplayer while the campaign downloaded/installed. Not everyone used that feature developer and publisher wise.
There no doubt that they're talking to devs. They just are playing things closer to the chest right now.
Not being loud isn't always a bad thing
Both Xbox and Sony are basically going to have the same consoles so these features aren't going to be unique to any platform
Pretty much, Jason isn't breaking anything here he's just pointing out the similarities between Stadia's advantages and what PS5 is going for.