Pharah is white to you? What
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She's Mixed race then.
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I honestly don't get the Tracer hate, or the Overwatch hate in general. Sure, Tracer can be a pain to deal with within competitive. But it doesn't mean I hate Tracer as a character.
Please take Bastion out of Overwatch and put him into Smash. Let Smash players suffer for a while.
arguing what is/isn't iconic is so damn subjective and opinionated that you and I could argue about it for hours without coming to an agreement. Let's just agree to disagree on this when tackling it from an "iconic or not" perspective.
I do think that reserving third party character inclusions to only come from series that have been around for 15+ years is silly, though. With gaming finally coming into the mainstream in the past five years or so, why not add characters from games that are that old?
Ideally, I'd like to see more characters that aren't necessarily iconic... but hail from games that caused impact, or maybe were just really popular for a one/two year period and then died out. First party smash inclusions already do this going all the way back to Melee with Marth and Roy.
idk. I've lost track of the point of my argument. I wrote this for too long lmao. I guess all I'm trying to say is I'd like to see more of the unexpected in smash. And at this point, I'm expecting nothing but representatives of decades-long third party series to get into smash. I'd like some more wildcards.
Final thought: I'd choose Deckard Cain to be in smash over Tracer ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Either way, claiming biracial is white is news to me out here in the real world.
Post launch we've gotten two PoC heroes. I'm not
I consider her having Egyptian ancestry but not necessarily Egyptian.
Imagine saying that Obama is white because his mother is white. This is the shit that you are arguing saying Pharah is white. Not to mention:
Lol what
Terry is as big as SNK. Which is bigger than Blizzard in many regions.
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So Obama is black because he has a black dad? He's Biracial. Obama has parents of completely different races
Yeah. The only character in the SSB roster that isn't a nintendo character that isn't very iconic is Bayonetta. But she was put in specifically because of an audience poll so that explains that.
As much as I truly love overwatch I don't see nintendo adding an OW character.
Now... a Warcraft character, that would make sense.
But tbh I don't see Nintendo adding any western characters. They seem to have regretted even putting snake in and he's not western but definitely has western influence being based on Snake Plissken.
Now what I really wanna see tho, is Nintendo skins in Overwatch for Switch. Why the hell isnt that a thing right now?
Race for biracial people is a self identity. Thanks for trying to explain to us what we are, but we don't need you thanks.
Anyway, can we go back to fucking talking about overwatch?
wow bad takes here but it's not surprising since it always happens in many Smash threads that aren't DT/OT
Very weird, even then, OW has a fairly good amount of characters that would add to representation in Smash.
Another Western inclusion that is not a bear and bird would be nice too. I do not really count Dark Samus even though she was technically made here.
This is literally what you said in your original argument:
I'm not the one moving goalposts here.
I mean look at the Genji and Brigitte hate/memes. Because of bad players Genji is now seen as a whiny character despite his real personality being the complete opposite. Even worse now that Blizzard has started to follow the meme in a joking way. Brigitte has it even worse with people actually attacking the actress just because they can't win against an enemy Brigitte. Like if she had anything to do with making the character's gameplay.
People can't seem to separate the actual story character over the character that is played by players.
I'll concede that point. So then I'll consider Pharah to be mixed race. I don't consider anyone with significant white ancestry to be a PoC. But that conversation has a lot of nuance and history to it that I'd rather not discuss on a gaming forum
That's always baffled me, to be honest. Though in my case, Brigitte is one of my mains (alongside Moira, Mercy, & Baptiste.......I'm a support main).
You are saying that Pharah is mainly white, biracial at best ...
So if you are not clear of white man blood, you are not worthy ?
The vast majority of Latin America is white now under this paradigm. Good to know.
Post launch we've gotten eight human characters, out of a total of ten. Of those we have Ana, Baptiste, Doomfist and Sombra. The remaining three, Moira, Brigitte and Ashe are women.
And as a bonus, Orissa was created by a black youth.
What part? Argentina is. Let's not pretend like Latin America doesn't have a problem with the way it treats in African/Indigenous population
That's cool.
We know for a fact that Tracer is soooo...
Smash would be great with her since we have a bunch of white dudes with swords already.
My bad. I only considered the characters with African ancestry
You just glossed over that Pharah is half Egyptian and half First Nation native and continued on with your beliefs on "biracial" categorization. I'm really doubting your initial intentions on asking for diversity.
Maybe when an interviewer asks a
FIFA dev about a Smash inclusion which is where most of these companies talking about Smash come from
Everybody knows her because Overwatch is marketed in imagery ads as if she is the only character in the game.
I'm talking about Mexico. Guatemala, Costa Rica. Cuba. Dominican Republic. I'm talking about the places where the indigenous and the Spaniards mixed, resulting in the mostly mestizo heritage that takes place in the continent. I'm talking about places like Colombia that also had a huge influx of Africans, so the race mixing was even more prominent. I'm talking about the colonial system that had to develop a caste taxonomy due to how much miscegenation was occuring. Argentina and Chile are the outliers here.
I think Tracer would be a nice fit for the roster.
Hearing Smash fans shit-fling at each other about who does or doesn't deserve a slot in what is essentially unlimited slots will never not be hilarious to me.
Dude was asked a question and answered honestly. It's not like he's hitting up Nintendo directly or just randomly sprouting it out of nowhere.
Hearing Smash fans shit-fling at each other about who does or doesn't deserve a slot in what is essentially unlimited slots will never not be hilarious to me.
Dude was asked a question and answered honestly. It's not like he's hitting up Nintendo directly or just randomly sprouting it out of nowhere.
Lol as if black/white biracial people can just be like "Hey ignore my skin color fellow white man, I'm one of you"
Would be cool to get Tracer, interesting gameplay gimmick and neat to get a gay female rep into Smash. Plus the victory screen as a play of the game? Beautiful.
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I know what a racial caste system is.
Are you trying to make a point about being ethnicity or ancestry? I don't consider them outliers when a vast majority of LatinAmerica is still anti-black
A lot of them did? There's stories of someone who had a biracial great-grandparent who passed for white and never told anyone
I'm saying the vast majority of Latin America is mestizo. Mixed race. I'm saying that trying to pass them as white is ridiculous just because they have Spaniard blood on their family. I'm saying Pharah is not white.
If we're going by the link you posted, then a majority of them identify as Mestizo. You can have a majority African Ancestry and choose to identify as Mestizo