Not even back in the day. It had 9 seasons and ended in 2008.
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Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide in Cell (See Staff Post)
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Not even back in the day. It had 9 seasons and ended in 2008.
Just giving Epstein's powerful friends just long enough to clear house.
if there is a conspiracy afoot here, and probably there is, but it can never be provable to what the source of conspiracy is, perhaps it doesn't matter to think about the conspiracy whatsoever since the only conclusions to be drawn will be invented by your own mind which is heavily biased to begin with
I didn't know that I've gone past his island home multiple times during multiple visits to St.John. The tour guides/captains would always point it out but they never hinted at anything bad going on there.
Barr: "Well get to the bottom of ...*checks report* 👀 *ahem* yea nothing to see here. May that serve as justice for the people he abused."
This was low-level for Barr fuckery (calling "suicide" like an hour after the death was reported, not taking buck-stops-here responsibility for the failures of the BoP, etc). Still dont trust him but also still dont think he has any ability to waylay this thing either.
At least his death opens doors to just raiding his shit with fewer layers of protocol.
At least his death opens doors to just raiding his shit with fewer layers of protocol.
Yashar Ali @yashar
1. Last year, @JamesStewartNYT sat down with Jeffrey Epstein. The terms of the interview were that Epstein's remarks were to be on background, which meant that James couldn't attach his name. Now that Epstein is dead, that agreement is no longer binding https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html …
6:13 PM - Aug 12, 2019
Tal Kopan @TalKopan
"He said that criminalizing sex with teenage girls was a cultural aberration and that at times in history it was perfectly acceptable." https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1161035923712290816 …
6:12 PM - Aug 12, 2019
Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1
"So one of my first thoughts on hearing of Mr. Epstein's suicide was that many prominent men and at least a few women must be breathing sighs of relief that whatever Mr. Epstein knew, he has taken it with him." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html …
6:01 PM - Aug 12, 2019
1. Last year, @JamesStewartNYT sat down with Jeffrey Epstein. The terms of the interview were that Epstein's remarks were to be on background, which meant that James couldn't attach his name. Now that Epstein is dead, that agreement is no longer binding https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html …
6:13 PM - Aug 12, 2019
Tal Kopan @TalKopan
"He said that criminalizing sex with teenage girls was a cultural aberration and that at times in history it was perfectly acceptable." https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1161035923712290816 …
"A few weeks after that, he asked me to join him for dinner with the author Michael Wolff and Donald J. Trump's former adviser, Steve Bannon." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html …
6:12 PM - Aug 12, 2019
Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1
"So one of my first thoughts on hearing of Mr. Epstein's suicide was that many prominent men and at least a few women must be breathing sighs of relief that whatever Mr. Epstein knew, he has taken it with him." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html …
6:01 PM - Aug 12, 2019
The man has connections to the CIA, organized crime and leaders in politics, buisness and media. The whole thing is fucking nuts, not being skeptical about how he was given the chance to take his own life is absurd given this is one of the most compromised people in the world
So post 2008, Epstein was apparently palling around with Woody Allen, MBS, Elon Musk, Trump, and Bannon. Bad looks for all of them. Although it is suggested that Musk's communications were limited.
Also "i sensed what he wanted was companionship" is the most insane thing I've read about Epstein so far.
Why have a substitute watching over the most important prisoner at this facility? I get that they're understaffed but surely they could have moved the substitute elsewhere and got a regular to step in. Unless they had absolutely no one else, but that doesn't seem likely. Not like the other guard did his job either though so it may not have helped.
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AP also reporting:
A person familiar with operations at the federal jail where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself says one of the two people guarding him the night he died wasn't a correctional officer.
The person wasn't authorized to disclose information about the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity.
The person said Epstein hanged himself with a bedsheet, days after being taken off a suicide watch.
Federal prisons facing shortages of fully trained guards have resorted to having other types of support staff fill in for correctional officers, including clerical workers and teachers.
Jail policy called for guards to check Epstein every 30 minutes, but investigators have learned those checks weren't done for several hours in the hours before he was discovered Saturday.
That's according to a second person who was not authorized to discuss the matter and also spoke on condition of anonymity.
Gaetz is a human dumpster fire.
But that's talking about all the old people that move to Florida.
I'd actually find it more likely that he's still alive and out there somewhere as a ghost than to believe he was able to off himself
Eh. I mean you have CEO's and rich people kill themselves in stock crashes, this is worse. It's not a stretch to believe that he'd be suicidal. It's suspect as fuck that such an important prisoner wasn't looked at properly.
Really hope all the evidence they got on him leads to a lot of people being taken down.
Also, how the hell do you lock him in a room with options to kill himself?
Also, how the hell do you lock him in a room with options to kill himself?
What an interesting new way that "draining the swamp" is fucking us over. The butterfly effect.
Oh, look, underfunding and understaffing these places can have disastrous consequences, who could've fucking guessed.
Even with these places being underfunded and understaffed, you would think that this particular case would have been a special one.
The augmentation is quite common; they have to pull from other non-correction posts (HR, counselor, nurse, and etc.) because of manning issues. Technically, everyone goes down to FLETC and receives the same training, so they are qualified to do it. However, there is a huge difference between someone who works solely in corrections compared to one of the support or admin positions. The person working corrections knows the job inside and out, while the others don't. Inmates know this too, they'll try to manipulate and lie to them because the augmented don't really know the ins and outs of a unit. It would be no different than taking a corrections officer and making them a nurse for a shift. Could they probably do it? Yes, they seen it done before, but they aren't experienced and something will probably go wrong. Corrections is mostly about experience, there are thing you can't learn at FLETC and it just comes with doing the job.
However, that is just the nature of the job. You are overworked and underappreciated. That's why the career field has high turnover and suicide rates. Prison is hell for everyone there.
However, that is just the nature of the job. You are overworked and underappreciated. That's why the career field has high turnover and suicide rates. Prison is hell for everyone there.
Oh, absolutely. Ignoring all the conspiracy theories, this whole thing is a demonstration of horrifying incompetence and rampant mismanagement of the system.
My first instinct would be, as a legislator, would be to look at this incident and the context surrounding it, and ask 1) why was Epstein not handled as a special case in terms of guarding and suicide prevention, 2) who is the fucking dumbass who supposedly decided it would be a great idea to take him off suicide prevention and why, and 3) why is there an understaffing and overwork issue in prisons/correction facilities (probably due to overcrowded prisons due to the war on drugs, which we really should be looking at ending because it's gotten us fucking nowhere) and how can it be fixed.
...come on
So one of the guards assigned to him wasn't even a regular? For a billionaire VIP inmate. This is just silly.
What the hell happened to the media button on mobile?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/fdny-investigating-jeffrey-epstein-4chan-post
Well, this is interesting.
Well, this is interesting.
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Good evening. I'm the new prison guard, Sue E. Cider. About time for you to clock out, isn't it?
Sure thing, Sue!
Sure thing, Sue!
I don't believe this "understaffed" nonsense. Did you see the kind of shit they pulled for El Chapo? They shut down bridges in New York and shit to transport him. If Epstein wasn't high profile, explain how Acosta, the Secretary of Labor, had to resign over convicting him a decade ago because he didn't convict him enough.
House cleaning's starting.
Lmao yup. Brand new prison guard that appears out of nowhere. I bet it was Sting in disguise, he got Jeffrey with the Stinger Splash.
Danielle Ivory @danielle_ivory
Prison workers expressed dismay at the decision to allow the warden to continue working.
"The warden made the call to take Epstein off suicide watch and to remove his cellmate. That is egregious." — Jose Rojas, Prison union official and teacher at Coleman prison in Florida
4:34 PM - Aug 13, 2019
Prison workers expressed dismay at the decision to allow the warden to continue working.
"The warden made the call to take Epstein off suicide watch and to remove his cellmate. That is egregious." — Jose Rojas, Prison union official and teacher at Coleman prison in Florida
4:34 PM - Aug 13, 2019
Is the warden a certified psychologist? Why the fuck does he have the authority to do that?
Apparently, after the psychiatric evaluation, the Warden still has to approve the change.
Who is this person? And if true, I'd love to hear how we should continue to say how expected this was given how overworked, lazy and incompetent all the guards are.
The warden is in charge of the entire facility. They have the final say on every matter.
