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dabig2

Member
Oct 29, 2017
5,116
Lmao, Epstein transferred 350k to the witnesses AFTER he was arrested?

No, it happened in November and December right after the Miami Herald series first went live. Dude knew his shit was cooked then. I'm actually surprised he came back to the States. Maybe he thought he'd get the Individual-1 treatment, but alas, he's not a president.
 

SolidSnakex

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,391
Is there any credible reporting on where exactly Epstein got all his money from? I've seen a number of reporters talking about how it's kind of a mystery as to how he's apparently as well off as he is.
 

NSA

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,892
I wonder what is more important to him.. live? Tell the truth? Doesn't seem like he'd be the type to spill the beans on everyone to clear his conscience or get a reduced sentence. Heck, at his age a 20-year sentence is the rest of his (good) life anyway. I hope they try to put him away for a lot more.

That begs the question.. if you (somehow, work with me here) knew he would blow the whistle and ALL the people in his circle would get exposed.. but he got to walk away scott free and leave the country.. would you take the deal? I feel like greater good.. but damn would be be sickening to see him go free.
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
I think this is new:



It's funny because a witness taking money from him has no obligation to not just take the money, turn around, and use the payment as proof of him being a pedo-rapist trying to silence witnesses. Like, what does he think they'll do after they're paid? Does he think he'd have standing to sue them for not shutting up about pedophilia? All he's doing is strengthening their case.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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That video is shocking if true on so many levels. The fact that someone can organize a mansion full of 13 yr old girls to participate in orgies with recruiters there offering "guidance" to have sex with these older men is nightmare fuel


If this is true then,
Trump is a flat out rapist and pedophile. Dude should be in prison holy shit.
 

XMonkey

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,827
Is there any credible reporting on where exactly Epstein got all his money from? I've seen a number of reporters talking about how it's kind of a mystery as to how he's apparently as well off as he is.
Not from what I've seen. His lawyers are going to great lengths to keep his financial docs from the prosecutors/court but that can only work for so long. Will be real interesting, probably a lot of blackmail payments.
 

Malleymal

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,300
Man... this dude is done. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy kills himself. He has a lot of info on people rich people. If he decides to spill the beans, they will reach him in jail.
 

SolidSnakex

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,391
It's not going to stay a mystery.

Not from what I've seen. His lawyers are going to great lengths to keep his financial docs from the prosecutors/court but that can only work for so long. Will be real interesting, probably a lot of blackmail payments.

It really seems like that's going to be one of the biggest dams to break on this case. There are more and more women coming forward to talk about how he molested or trafficked them, but only a few people know exactly where and how he managed to become rich. It shouldn't be so much of a secret as to how a so-called billionaire actually became a billionaire.
 

asmith906

Member
Oct 27, 2017
27,403
I wonder what is more important to him.. live? Tell the truth? Doesn't seem like he'd be the type to spill the beans on everyone to clear his conscience or get a reduced sentence. Heck, at his age a 20-year sentence is the rest of his (good) life anyway. I hope they try to put him away for a lot more.

That begs the question.. if you (somehow, work with me here) knew he would blow the whistle and ALL the people in his circle would get exposed.. but he got to walk away scott free and leave the country.. would you take the deal? I feel like greater good.. but damn would be be sickening to see him go free.
There's no way he'd get no jail time no matter what kind of plea deal he got. He got lucky with Acosta. There's way too much scrutiny for him to get off again.
 

skullmuffins

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,426
Not really sure how the media can continue to ignore this kind of evidence. I get that Trump is president but still.
reporters dug into this in 2016 and there were all kinds of red flags, between the completely anonymous victim and the anonymous witnesses, none of whom were willing to speak to the media, and the sketchy guys who were aggressively shopping this story around asking for $1m for a video. The one reporter who spoke to "Katie Johnson" came away wondering if she was even real. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Epstein's general MO was known when this came out and the new information on him doesn't make this suit any more or less believable. If this really happened, I hope she finds the courage to go to law enforcement or come forward publicly with a credible attorney to represent her, but barring future revelations the media is probably doing the right thing by not reporting on this beyond "this is a lawsuit that was filed and dropped before anything came of it".

 

Deleted member 2533

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Oct 25, 2017
8,325
I have a feeling that a lot of these posters are implying that he's going to "kill himself" by way of hitman.

Oh, I get it now "kill "himself.""

Man... this dude is done. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy kills himself. He has a lot of info on people rich people. If he decides to spill the beans, they will reach him in jail.

This certainly can happen. There are to many powerful men involved.

I see, I see.

Nah, that's too conspiratorial. We all like to believe that there's a web of influence peddling and blackmail, but Epstein probably just liked paying underage girls to service him sexually, and liked to talk about it and hook up his good buddies with sexual services, too. I'm sure everyone's thinking, "oh my God, he probably has secret recordings and kompromat, and he targeted politicians, and then used this information to get favourable deals and and and-"

I think it's more likely he's just a guy with too much money who wants to know he's getting away with something and has a bunch of friends who think similarly.

There's probably not a lot of specific evidence compiled for blackmail purposes, I bet half of these pedos in Epsteins orbit probably took their own photos and shared them readily, if anything.

In addition to that, I don't think these rich, soft ass pedos have the juice to actually make a murder happen.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
Nah, that's too conspiratorial. We all like to believe that there's a web of influence peddling I'm sure everyone's thinking, "oh my God, he probably has secret recordings and kompromat, and he targeted politicians, and then used this information to get favourable deals and and and-"

I think it's more likely he's just a guy with too much money who wants to know he's getting away with something and has a bunch of friends who think similarly.

There's probably not a lot of specific evidence compiled for blackmail purposes, I bet half of these pedos in Epsteins orbit probably took their own photos and shared them readily, if anything.

In addition to that, I don't think these rich, soft ass pedos have the juice to actually make a murder happen.

They already siezed a ton of cds with labels saying "young girl and x celebrity/public figure"
 

Pyccko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,871
I can't help but want this to go super wide

like every beloved celebrity of the past 30 years being implicated

straight up complete pop-cultural reboot
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
Exactly. It probably isn't, cause why point out they're young if that's the case, but who knows what's going through this sick fuck's head.

To think that Epstein isn't using the material for blackmail you have to temporarily ignore the rumors that his money comes directly from forcing people who he has dirt on to invest in his weirdly opaque investment fund business.
 

julian

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Oct 27, 2017
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To think that Epstein isn't using the material for blackmail you have to temporarily ignore the rumors that his money comes directly from forcing people who he has dirt on to invest in his weirdly opaque investment fund business.

I thought they also found tons of photos of naked underage girls without other people in it. Again, you're probably right, but some of his porn seemed to be just for him.
 

Deleted member 18502

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pretty interested in the Les Wexner connections. Growing up in Columbus, there were lots of rumors about his sexuality, never remember hearing anything beyond he possibly being gay.
 

Tappin Brews

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Oct 25, 2017
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I thought they also found tons of photos of naked underage girls without other people in it. Again, you're probably right, but some of his porn seemed to be just for him.
iirc, the report said these discs were locked in a safe. not typically where one stashes their porn. but who knows, and even if IT IS some shit, the chances of a major takedown of all parties seems slim. but i'll be crossing my fingers
 

EdibleKnife

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Oct 29, 2017
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I think Epstein's going to kill himself
#ThenPerish

"These aren't our kids"
That's the long and short of it. It says so much that evangelicals devote more time to trying to morally and legally criminalize and harass people of color, women, religious minorities & LGBTQ+ people while several of the world's biggest religions including themselves have a deep seeded, often cited, and continually ignored epidemic of abuse of children physically, mentally, emotionally and sexually.

Black and brown children can get caged, abused and killed and they'll ignore it. Rich white men like Epstein, Roy Moore and the men of the Duggar family can can participate in and cover up decades on decades of continual abusive sexual exploits and they'll make up rhetoric that casts them as heroes and gay men and transwomen as the actual perverts. Hell like that story months ago, in their own ranks, deacons are legally exonorated for sexually abusing kids that practically attend the same bible study as their own simply because they're "good god-fearing men" who are just "struggling" and "need our forgiveness".

I'm reminded of how sick I was back before 2016 when I attended Second Baptist with my parents in Houston. I still remember how Ed Young Sr. tip toed around Trump's degenerate interests in sexual abuse of women of all ages and encouraged the congregation to vote for the dude because to do so meant the potential to end abortion. It made me never want to shake the dude's hand again and I know there are hundreds on hundreds of megachurches just like Second Baptist with a wealth of preachers & clergy who are even more blatant about their hypocrisy. I thank the lucky stars I've grown up with the self awareness to see such people for who they are. All these self-righteous, bigoted religious types have a vested interest in not only ignoring stories like this but actively defending and excusing their false god's relationship to these wretched and inhuman people. To spread hate and take away people's humanity, they'll tolerate as many pedophiles, killers and general monsters as they need to.
 
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Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
That's not a rumour, it's one guy's speculation.

If you mean that Twitter breakdown of how it could specifically happen - the same speculation happened when the deal first became apparent - that said a rumor is often speculation simply spread around and I wouldn't give a rumor any more credence than that.
 

antonz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,309
Epstein was a college drop out with no future who was suddenly hired to teach at a pretty fancy school. He then started an investment company where he was the only employee besides a group of young female "accountants" Suddenly he became super wealthy.

If anyone wants to believe that this all was on the up and up you gotta be serious deluded.
 

Tappin Brews

#TeamThierry
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Epstein was a college drop out with no future who was suddenly hired to teach at a pretty fancy school. He then started an investment company where he was the only employee besides a group of young female "accountants" Suddenly he became super wealthy.

If anyone wants to believe that this all was on the up and up you gotta be serious deluded.

did he come from money?
 

Powdered Egg

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
17,070
Oh, I get it now "kill "himself.""





I see, I see.

Nah, that's too conspiratorial. We all like to believe that there's a web of influence peddling and blackmail, but Epstein probably just liked paying underage girls to service him sexually, and liked to talk about it and hook up his good buddies with sexual services, too. I'm sure everyone's thinking, "oh my God, he probably has secret recordings and kompromat, and he targeted politicians, and then used this information to get favourable deals and and and-"

I think it's more likely he's just a guy with too much money who wants to know he's getting away with something and has a bunch of friends who think similarly.

There's probably not a lot of specific evidence compiled for blackmail purposes, I bet half of these pedos in Epsteins orbit probably took their own photos and shared them readily, if anything.

In addition to that, I don't think these rich, soft ass pedos have the juice to actually make a murder happen.
There were articles out 4+ years ago that he recorded sex acts for blackmail purposes.
 

dabig2

Member
Oct 29, 2017
5,116
It's funny because a witness taking money from him has no obligation to not just take the money, turn around, and use the payment as proof of him being a pedo-rapist trying to silence witnesses. Like, what does he think they'll do after they're paid? Does he think he'd have standing to sue them for not shutting up about pedophilia? All he's doing is strengthening their case.

Well, it worked in the past. This is from Jan 2015
The Duke of York's former friend Jeffrey Epstein used "aggressive witness tampering" on employees who later refused to answer questions about whether the Duke slept with underage girls, according to US investigators.

Epstein is also said to have bankrolled the legal fees of witnesses who invoked their right to silence to avoid answering whether young girls were "provided for sex" to the Duke.


Lawyers representing women who were sexually abused by Epstein have complained bitterly that it became "impossible" to gather evidence from vital witnesses because so many of them had legal representation paid for by Epstein, a billionaire investment banker.
One court statement lists ten employees and associates of Epstein who, it said, were being represented by lawyers paid for by the convicted sex offender. They include Nadia Marcinkova, described as "Epstein's live-in sex slave", who invoked her right not to incriminate herself, protected by the US constitution's Fifth Amendment, when she was asked about the Duke of York.

Asked by a victim's lawyer: "Have you ever been made to perform sexually on Prince Andrew?" she replied: "Fifth." As well as having a lawyer provided by Epstein, she was "harassed and pressured" by him not to cooperate, court papers allege.
When two FBI Specials Agents went to the home of Leslie Groff, a personal assistant to Epstein, in 2007 to serve her with a federal grand jury subpoena, she told them she had to go upstairs to check her sleeping child, but instead phoned Epstein, who told her not to speak to the agents.

The "aggressive witness tampering" was "so severe" that examples were written into proposed plea agreements for Epstein, court documents state.

Hopefully now that everyone sees the emperor has no clothes, we can finally combat this perversion of justice.


There were articles out 4+ years ago that he recorded sex acts for blackmail purposes.

Plus, witnesses say that one time when Bill Clinton was on the island with Epstein, that Epstein was questioned as to why Slick Willy was there. He responded "because he owes me a favor".

Like wtf? Why would an ex-president already known for his sexual nonsense, fly with a child rapist on a child rape plane to a child rape island with children currently being raped? For a favor that he apparently can give back to Epstein? Why on earth would any man take that chance for a favor? Certainly, such business could be handled out of the child rape plane to child rape island, where there's not witnesses or recorded evidence of you being anywhere in the vicinity of this shady ass guy on a private island.

Kompromat.
 

iRAWRasaurus

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Oct 25, 2017
4,729
Epstein was a college drop out with no future who was suddenly hired to teach at a pretty fancy school. He then started an investment company where he was the only employee besides a group of young female "accountants" Suddenly he became super wealthy.

If anyone wants to believe that this all was on the up and up you gotta be serious deluded.
I was reading up on when he was a teacher, he showed up to a high school drinking party.
 

cameron

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
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Shimon Prokupecz @ShimonPro

Outside SDNY with updates on the Jeffrey Epstein bail hearing. Updates starting at 10am

8:41 AM - Jul 15, 2019


erica orden @eorden

Jeffrey Epstein is back in court today for a bail hearing.
His lawyers have argued for home detention in his UES mansion.
SDNY wants him denied bail, saying he's an "extreme" flight risk & should be in jail, not a "gilded cage."
I'll be there w @ShimonProhttps://www.cnn.com/2019/07/12/us/epstein-potential-witness-payments/index.html …

7:50 AM - Jul 15, 2019
 

Landy828

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Oct 26, 2017
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Clemson, SC
Anyone that gives Epstein bail, if it actually happens, should be put in prison with him.

That, or set it at something hilarious....that has to be paid 100% up-front....10 Trillion Dollars. Nobody has that money, so you get to set bail and laugh.

...but seriously, he had better be denied bail and jailed immediately.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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Shimon Prokupecz @ShimonPro

Outside SDNY with updates on the Jeffrey Epstein bail hearing. Updates starting at 10am

8:41 AM - Jul 15, 2019


erica orden @eorden

Jeffrey Epstein is back in court today for a bail hearing.
His lawyers have argued for home detention in his UES mansion.
SDNY wants him denied bail, saying he's an "extreme" flight risk & should be in jail, not a "gilded cage."
I'll be there w @ShimonProhttps://www.cnn.com/2019/07/12/us/epstein-potential-witness-payments/index.html …

7:50 AM - Jul 15, 2019

Textbook case of flight risk.
 

Cow Mengde

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Oct 26, 2017
12,720
Notice how nobody cares about this anymore? We're now talking about Storming Area 51 and Trump telling WOC to "go back to their country".