Fuck cancer, lost a lot of family members to it, with a few also living with it. I hope he is surrounded by friends and loved ones and his pain levels are managed. Jeopardy won't be the same without him.
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Jeopardy! host Alex Trebek diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer, will continue working
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Obviously they won't, but they should cancel Jeopardy when he dies. You can't replace him. It will never be the same. It will be like when Bob Barker retired. Drew Carey ruined The Price is Right. It's unwatchable now.
I would be shocked if Sony cancelled Jeopardy. I see it having a final episode or maybe a couple final episodes that he taped, then a marathon, then reruns, before announcing a new host. Though I agree with you, Sony should just cancel the show upon his passing and just have reruns.
This makes me sad. He's been hosting Jeopardy since before I existed, it's hard to imagine the show without him. Been watching Jeopardy since I was really little. I'm hoping for the best for you Alex!
I just realized I don't really know what the stages of cancer actually mean. Like of course 1 is 'better' than 2 and so on but what's the dividing line between a stage?
It's generally how it has spread, the size of the tumor(s), and so on. Stage 1 is generally always local and often can be removed through surgery, stage 2 means it's advancing but still quite local, stage 3 means it's advanced quite a bit but still local, stage 4 means it's spread to many areas of the body.
My friends mom has cancer and this is how they explained it to him.
An old man, accused of nothing, has an antiquated (but not necessarily disapproving) take on a modern progressive social movement. He shouldn't have said this, but also maybe not worth discussing in a thread about his effective death sentence.
I don't think they will cancel the show, and I don't think they should either. They need to try to find a new host. It won't be the same as Alex, but hopefully it'll be good enough. Jeopardy is its own niche as far as game shows go, and I think they need to do everything they can to keep it going. I always thought Ken Jennings would be a good replacement as some others have said, but it's probably not very likely.
Edit: I wonder if one of the Clue Crew would step up into the spot..?
Edit: I wonder if one of the Clue Crew would step up into the spot..?
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My guess is that Jeopardy is part of his identity, and he does not want cancer to take it away from him so abruptly.
I think he just likes working... I remember seeing some Sunday Morning feature on him and he could have retired eons ago, but just enjoys it.
But still... I'd take one last trip wherever I wanted to go at this point and exit work immediately.
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I see a "lot of fighting cancer", as a non native english speaking is that an insult or a compliment? because where i'm from it feels like insult. These posts make it seem that if someone tries hard enough they can survive cancer which is not true at all. The prognosis of cancer usually depends on the histological type then the stage and lastly on the treatment. The patient at most can influence the treatment stage which to be honest, if the patient has the deadliest histological type AND stage 4 with metastasis the treatment won't matter much.
So the question is: do english speaking countries have a different approach to cancer? or is it that i'm translating too literal ?
Doctor here. Do note that each cancer (as in each histological type) usually has their own classification so the following is the general idea.
Usually we doctors (in Portugal) use the TNM classification to understand it here it is the thought process.
Most of our organs have 3 layers: Mucosa, Muscularis and serosa.
T stands for tumor and characterizes the size of the original cancer:
- T1= Invaded the mucosa but contained by muscularis
- T2= Invaded the Muscularis but contained by serosa
- T3= Invaded the serosa but did not spread to surrounding structures
- T4= Invaded the contiguous structures
- Nx= we don't know if nodes are affected
- N0= cancer hasn't spread to lymph nodes
- N1= few lymph nodes affected
- N2= some lymph nodes affected
- N3= most lymph nodes affected
Lastly but the most important is the M which stands for metathesis
- Mx= we don't know if there is metathesis
- M0= no metathesis present
- M1= metastasis present
Yea I thought about it more and figured that was the case after decades doing the show.
I get how someone may like working or it's a part of who they are, but at that point he may only have a limited time of where he is functional to enjoy the last bits of freedom and life before being low energy, sick, bed ridden, etc. He's already been through quite a bit of health related issues too.
Yep, all of this (Pathologist here, Howdy!). Most likely his T4 is from invasion of other organs (if I had to guess, likely liver). Like others have said, the real estate the pancreas occupies makes any carcinoma from there incredibly easy to metastasize because it's right beside other organs, lymphatic channels and blood vessels.
As far as I know, his exact type of pancreatic cancer has not been revealed. A lower grade neuroendocrine tumor may have a somewhat better prognosis (23% 5-year survival for Neuroendocrine, vs 3% for your common ductal adenocarcinoma). But, like I said I'm not sure they've gone into precisely the histologic type that he has.
EDIT: I'm definitely pulling for the guy, though. Someone on Twitter said he is one of the last people from long ago on TV that you just instantly recognize his voice and he's just a constant presence. Such an incredible void will be left on that show, if he passes away. Very, very sad :(
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I dunno. It took him a long while but I think Carey found his groove on The Price is Right.
You gotta remember, too, that these shows are much more than their star personality. Cancelling the show would put a lot of people out of work, something I doubt Trebek would remotely want.
Brad Rutter would be fucking perfect. He looks the part, is smug as shit and is very comfortable in front of the camera. Obviously also ties in well because he's the winningest Jeopardy player ever and has won some of the biggest tournaments. He's also pretty young so cohld stick around for a long time. I love Ken Jennings but I think he's a bit too dorky to be the next Trebek. He also does a lot of cool non jeopardy stuff that I'd like him to keep doing.
It's not really an insult or a compliment. That's just the normal term for acknowledging you have a disease and indicating that you're not giving up. It's understood that there's only so much that a good attitude will contribute to your overall health (if anything), but it's a normal figure of speech. It's also sort of a form of encouragement.
Yeah, Brad would be good too. Although I do wonder if past contestants would even be considered at all. On one hand, I think they would have the right attitude and understanding of the game. But then I guess there could be legal ramifications since they're all buddies with each other now and they might not any whiff of favoritism or influencing the game in anyway, with all of the returning all-star type games.
Not sure how favoritism could come into play in a game like Jeopardy.
Ken: I'll take Potpourri for 400.
Brad: You sure about that, Ken? Wouldn't you rather DOUBLE that up to 800? *wink* *wink*
Well I don't mean it would ACTUALLY play into it. But just for the same reason that relatives can't take part in contests that companies are doing. There could be questions about maybe feeding questions ahead of time or things like that. I'm sure Alex's friends and relatives are not allowed to compete in Jeopardy.
Pancreatic adenocarcinoma is so aggressive that it'll never get exophytic growth into the liver, only distant metastasis. It's not like T4 of colon cancer. T4 panc is invasion of portal vein, SMV, celiac axis, or hepatic artery. That's T4. There probably less than a dozen hospitals in the US that'll operate on T4NxM0, that's how bad T4 is, regardless of metastatic presence.
By the way, how do you know what his T score is, I only heard his stage during the announcement.
It's easy to surmise that he has adenocarcinoma rather than a pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor given that the median survival of well-differentiated stage IV PNET is 50 months. Even high grade stage IV has survival periods over a year. Not only are PNET even rarer than adenoCA, but PNET can be symptomatic sooner due to functional hormone secretion (like insulinomas, gastrinomas, and carcinoid syndrome).
Researchers have studied patient pessimism in lung cancer and found that pessimistic patients died about 6 months sooner.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854019/
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I mean, never is a strong word, I just diagnosed one less than a month ago on a patient via liver core biopsy.
I'm assuming T4 based on what others have said. I could be wrong, but being stage 4 I'm not sure it matters. It's not really a good thread to get into an academic semantic discussion, was just helping clarify things for folks who had questions.
The Price Is Right is the highest rated show in daytime TV, just won an Emmy for best gameshow, and has been going on for 12 seasons without Barker.
Barker was incredible, but the show is doing just fine without him.
1. localized, very small region. Located in one area Ex. small spot on the pancreas
2. Once again localized, but the region that it infects is larger. Still located in one area Ex. still only located in the pancreas, but the infected area is larger
3. Large and has begun to expand outside of the original area. Ex. Breast cancer that has slightly spread to the lymph nodes
4. Cancer has spread to other areas of the body ex. breast cancer that has spread to lung, brain, pancreas. etc.
edit. I believe there is also a 3A and 3B. Where 3A means it hasn't actually left the original site but is about to, and 3B Means it has just left the original site.
His cancer is in "near-remission"
That's very encouraging. I hope he beats this.
That's very encouraging. I hope he beats this.
I am not sure you can beat it, but hopefully they can extend his life for a few more years.
Of course if he beats it that would be even better.
Wow, that's pretty incredible! Hope everything keeps going well for him. I know there had been reports of him being in some pretty serious pain/exhaustion during breaks while shooting the show recently. I really hope he continues to improve, guy is a treasure.
While it's good that he's remaining positive, I hope he doesn't get ahead of himself or make others think he's doing better than he really is. I don't think 50%+ shrinkage among some tumors would give someone a "near-remission" status...maybe "partial remission" and that's probably still being generous. Also, some cancers return more aggressively once treatment stops.
As someone who had to watch his own boss pass to the same exact condition, this is very reminiscent of what happened in the early stages. Near miracle levels of tumor reduction...I really hope that it gets better for him, and that it doesn't spread to other places in his body...
It's so disheartening to see this. It makes me sick...I really hope he makes a recovery.
This also happened to my father. Stage 4 pancreatic cancer. His tumors were shrinking and it looked like a miracle but then it went the other way. Lasted 14 months which is longer than most. I hope he beats it.
Given that he's the one with cancer I don't think we're allowed to pass judgment on how he handles the treatment. As a cancer survivor nothing pissed me off more in the immediate aftermath than people telling me how I should be handling the disease. Every person's journey is different and if he wants to remain optimistic about this and share what he believes is good news then I don't think we really have a say in it.
Cancer is some dark, dark shit and sometimes all people have to give them motivation to keep living their life is to remain positive.
One of my friends has stage 4 cancer that's in remission and she's currently living a pretty full life. I hope the best for Alex.