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Jesus, this old Major Nelson interview is all you need to see how far MS has come this generation

MrMatt555

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Thank God

Between the Bullshit DRM questions, the big ass AD w kinect in the background and Major's face as he gets peppered with questions he does not properly know how to answer, It's clear Spencer really came in and was the white knight (for lack of a better term) that Jettisoned XBOX brand out of hell and into a new beginning with kinect free bundles, Xbox one S and Xbox one X.

Edit: this is also the same year that Sony did This
 

JJH

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#2
Thank God

Between the Bullshit DRM questions, the big ass AD w kinect in the background and Major's face as he gets peppered with questions he does not properly know how to answer, It's clear Spencer really came in and was the white knight (for lack of a better term) that Jettisoned XBOX brand out of hell and into a new beginning with kinect free bundles, Xbox one S and Xbox one X.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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#3
You know there that MN clearly doesn't believe in any of that shit himself, but he's a truly corporate chap and just has to keep on the Mattrick/Ballmer script. Thank goodness the pair of them have gone.

They literally took everything that was popular and successful about 360 and just chucked it away. Luckily Spencer is steadily turning XBO in to the console it should have been in 2013, but he's had such a huge mess to clear up on so many levels.

Edit: I must say, I'm not MN's biggest fan, but you can't expect him to do anything but toe the company line in those situations, especially when on camera, no matter how ridiculous it seems in the circumstances. We'd all do the same if we wanted to keep our well paid job for life at Microsoft.
 
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"We are not going to change anything (after seeing Sony's pressconference)."

Bwahahahahaha.......they did a 180.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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When the PR job sucks.

It's a pretty great turnaround minus the games but a really obvious path to anyone. Microsoft were truly in a bubble back then smoking their own insane pipe dream. I hope they never get like that again. How they couldn't see the disaster until the eleventh hour is absolutely baffling.
 
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MrMatt555

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When the PR job sucks.

It's a pretty great turnaround minus the games but a really obvious path to anyone. Microsoft were truly in a bubble back then smoking their own insane pipe dream. I hope they never get like that again. How they couldn't see the disaster until the eleventh hour is absolutely baffling.
Blame goofball mattrick with his steven spielberg halo show and nancy tellem watercooler charades.
 

plagiarize

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When the PR job sucks.

It's a pretty great turnaround minus the games but a really obvious path to anyone. Microsoft were truly in a bubble back then smoking their own insane pipe dream. I hope they never get like that again. How they couldn't see the disaster until the eleventh hour is absolutely baffling.
It should be a no brainer to do what they did, and yet, look at how many other companies don't start listening to their customers even when they're all saying the same thing.
 
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spencer was there when all this was going on. They have 180ed on a lot of things and finally become an attractive platform. But lets not forget that mattrick was just the fall guy
 
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I wouldn't say the Xbox brand is doing very hot nowadays. Even after correcting many things.

Xbox One with the original concept would've been dead and burried by now, though.
 

see5harp

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I don't know how you'd know without working at MS. It seems like most of the positive shit that has happened at MS across the entire enterprise is when Nadella took the reigns. All of the stuff like play anywhere seems to correlate with Nadella's goals.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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spencer was there when all this was going on. They have 180ed on a lot of things and finally become an attractive platform. But lets not forget that mattrick was just the fall guy
You don't know that. What we do know is what happened since Spencer took over and he's done a complete turn around.
 
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For us over the hill gamers.

"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"
 
Oct 27, 2017
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#30
This fool killed the xbox. And then he went and promptly killed the highest earning company that year. Trash executive.
I do wonder how many of the bizarre Xbox decisions were actually coming from Ballmer though. Especially the whole TV TV TV thing, seemed to be pressure coming from higher up in Microsoft, at a time when Netflix was blowing up and Microsoft wanted to have a finger in every pie. They're a lot more focused again across the board since Nadella took over.
 

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I don't know how you'd know without working at MS. It seems like most of the positive shit that has happened at MS across the entire enterprise is when Nadella took the reigns. All of the stuff like play anywhere seems to correlate with Nadella's goals.
I suppose you could say nadella allowed a more gamer centric vision to flourish, and spencer took advantage of that.

But people really do like to pretend that Phil spencer hasn't been with the company the entire time.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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#34
I suppose you could say nadella allowed a more gamer centric vision to flourish, and spencer took advantage of that.

But people really do like to pretend that Phil spencer hasn't been with the company the entire time.
That and MS has become a great hardware makers under Panos. The X and S is under Spencer with Panos over seeing it. That helped a great, great deal.
 
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#38
I suppose you could say nadella allowed a more gamer centric vision to flourish, and spencer took advantage of that.

But people really do like to pretend that Phil spencer hasn't been with the company the entire time.
And people really do like to say this all the time while ignoring what he has done for the brand since then.

You could say the same thing about Song and the PS3. Things change. For the better.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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They have come very far. Sadly the first party situation is pretty bad imo but hopefully they rectify that in a few years

Can you imagine how strong Xbox One would have started if:

1) $399 no Kinect SKU at launch, $499 extra SKU
2) No DRM anything ever mentioned
3) 360 BC from day one as it is now

The UI still sucked and there were other issues but I imagine it could have been neck and neck with PS4 in US.
 

PositiveGamer

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Yep. What an awful person. He tried shoving shit people didn’t want down their throats and belittled them for having a problem with it. How quickly MS turned it around after he was out of the picture.
Not sure if is a coincidence, but for me he was always synonymous with the Kinect. Since I was aware of him, he started pushing harder and harder the dreadful Kinect. The last years of the 360 was all Kinect and the beginning of the downfall.
 
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Has Spencer really done that great a job though? Xbox sales are still way behind the PS4, Japanese support is piss poor, third parties have stopped releasing exclusives for the platform and he has been cancelling most of Microsofts own exclusives and closing first-party studios. Hardware has improved and the xbox one S and X are steps in the right direction, but where are the games? The only major first-party games MS have had this year are Halo Wars 2 and Forza 7, great games but when you compare those to both Sony and Nintendo’s first-party games and system exclusives its simply not enough.

Dont get me wrong the situation has improved over the last few years, but that is more down to how much of a disaster Don Mattrick and the xbox team were back then which would have improved no matter who had replaced them. Dont fuck things up worse than the last guy is hardly a major accomplishment when the last guy was Mattrick.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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can anyone find the "i'm the man" phil video? its been wiped from the internet and I searched hardcore. But Phil admits he was there doing when they decided what the OG xbox was going to be, but since he took over, theirs also a reason why he's VP now and Mattrick is gone. Also the lead designer opf XBO left shortly after mattrick, but that could mean anything, or something. "shrug"
 

PositiveGamer

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He also was in charge of Xbox’s most profitable years (aka the Kinect years). His problem was that he couldn’t adapt the company fast enough.
I wouldn't say that.. those were also the same years Sony finally catch up to MS in sales..

While MS was busy with Kinect and some hitters like Forza and the "lovely" Halo 4.

Sony was pumping Uncharted 3, Last of Us, Beyond 2 Souls etc..
 

Derrick01

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Spencer is not in the messiah position to which he's been propelled by the fanbase.
I still remember when he was in his old position and everyone thought he looked like a used car salesman lol.

Wasn't his old position head of 1st party during the ~4 year drought on 360? Then it got even worse when he was made the chief. Hmm I'm seeing a pattern here....