Jim Ryan to Be Appointed President and CEO of Sony Interactive Entertainment

Oct 30, 2017
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I am sure everything will be fine he has been with PlayStation since the beginning and knows it inside out. His comments regards BC were really not that ridiculous considering it was based on data captured from PS3 - most users did not use it. Pretty positive PS5 will be BC as Microsoft has forced Sonys hand.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah that's exactly how it works when u sit on a high role chair.....a word can change everything ...look at penello an the famous 30%
Ryan had some weird interview saying basically bs
What no? If the numbers back you, you can talk shit how much you want basically.

And well you know, SIEE is doing BIG numbers.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Please don’t kill BC.
Pleeaassee.

He’s a veteran and knows the brand for sure but some of his past statements are concerning.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I am sure everything will be fine he has been with PlayStation since the beginning and knows it inside out. His comments regards BC were really not that ridiculous considering it was based on data captured from PS3 - most users did not use it. Pretty positive PS5 will be BC as Microsoft has forced Sonys hand.
He didn't just say people don't use it (which isn't true as we have data from X1 showing it is a widely used feature), he also said "why would anyone play those games?" , outright insulting the legacy of PlayStation. It was a ridiculous and terrible statement.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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We just had numerous Threads about Sony patenting some BC software.
But yeah, lets just pretend BC is doomed because he made one statement 2 years ago and surely didn't change his opinion.
There is no evidence I am aware that suggests those patents are for anything more than PS4 BC, which is expected at this point. There are no platforms specified, and no proof that there any plans to extend BC to older PlayStation platforms. And yes, the beliefs of those in charge of a company do effect the decisions a company makes for their products. His beliefs on BC and legacy content do not coincide with my own, therefore I do not consider him a good choice for this company's leadership, as I do not believe he will make decisions I will like regarding something that is very important to me, personally.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I am sure everything will be fine he has been with PlayStation since the beginning and knows it inside out. His comments regards BC were really not that ridiculous considering it was based on data captured from PS3 - most users did not use it. Pretty positive PS5 will be BC as Microsoft has forced Sonys hand.
Yeah.

He was blunt, and giving his candid impression when he saw these games (PS1 and PS2 vs PS4) side by side at an event. The usage data also told him one thing.

He could/should have been more empathetic toward the less tangible value BC has for some.

But in terms of reading market priorities, he was hardly proven wrong. It wasn't 'BS'.

There's also zero relevance in those comments to PS5 or PS5 BC. I think it's fairly obvious PS5 will have PS4 BC. Plans like that that are laid wouldn't be disrupted by a new CEO - but his comment about 'ancient games' didn't even encompass PS3 games anyway, let alone the relevance of PS4 games going forward. From Sony's IR comments, it's pretty clear the PS4 is an important leverage point for them going forward.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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He didn't just say people don't use it (which isn't true as we have data from X1 showing it is a widely used feature), he also said "why would anyone play those games?" , outright insulting the legacy of PlayStation. It was a ridiculous and terrible statement.
Because of how bad the graphics looked next to the newer generation stuff at the event he was speaking of. I don't think it was meant to be taken literally, rather a facetious comment in the context of comparison. Obviously he understands many (albeit probably still a minority in the grand scheme) want BC, as do PlayStation in general, which is presumably why the PS2 and PS3 had BC in some form or at some point. The PS4 was the outlier, but you could argue a large part of that was due to architectural complications between the PS3 and PS4.
 
There is no evidence I am aware that suggests those patents are for anything more than PS4 BC, which is expected at this point. There are no platforms specified, and no proof that there any plans to extend BC to older PlayStation platforms.
Yeah but you don't know that. Neither does anyone else but Sony higher ups. Its best to wait and see at this point. If no BC is announced at PS5 launch then by all means start sharpening the pitchforks.
 
Nov 12, 2017
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So? You really think the opinion of the people in this Thread is somewhat relevant to Sony?
And this is the point where the things start to go bad. Yes they should care in % to understand why also in this thread people seem to highly dislike him. If history teach something at least
 
Oct 25, 2017
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And the reason this thread is showing dislikes to that person is thr measure of how much you are wrong
You really think this threads or what people on Era say mean much .
If what people said here really matter that much Sony would have the worst selling consoles after cross play or shit some people said on gaf .
No this is just some people having no idea what they are talking about .
Era does not even make up 0.5% of Sony user base .
 
Nov 1, 2017
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No, it isn't. Every PlayStation Console has a fantastic library of games that deserves preservation and accessibility to a new generation of gamers. I don't understand how any supposed fan of PlayStation could think any differently.
I agree with you I would love BC for all PS consoles but PS4 is important to keep the current gamers locked to the PS ecosystem.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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And this is the point where the things start to go bad. Yes they should care in % to understand why also in this thread people seem to highly dislike him. If history teach something at least
I don‘t get this.
Why should Sony care about the few 100 people on this Thread?

„Sony should better hire someone whos liked on ERA, i don‘t think being the CEO of the best selling Region is enough!!!“
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Main Line
What is up with the amount of shit posting in here? Don Mattrick doomed the Xbox One for this entire generation. Jim Ryan has made a couple dumb comments but otherwise has made PlayStation into the powerhouse that they are in Europe. Anyone making these comparisons doesn't know what they are talking about.
All in good fun.

That said, is he really the reason that Sony dominates in Europe like many are implying? AFAIK Sony has always dominated that region, it's a key part of their strategy and a core strength. Honest question, I have no idea
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I agree with you I would love BC for all PS consoles but PS4 is important to keep the current gamers locked to the PS ecosystem.
I agree that PS4 BC the most important. I also think that's why it's the only Console PS5 will have BC for. I wish Sony felt differently, but I fear they don't, and I think that appointing Jim Ryan as CEO only cements that. I'm sure he's good at what he does, and his appointment as CEO won't be utterly disastrous or anything, but for BC and legacy support (something that I value very much, and that Sony used to be the kings of), I do not think this is a good omen of things to come.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Been saying this for a while... Sony is an utter shit show at the moment. Luckily they don’t need to do much for a successful PS5. Seems like the narrative provided by the old management was false and they just jumped ship. Of course, jury is still out.

I miss Andrew House.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If the PS5 is designed with BC it's not like he's gonna go

"Hey Mark, you can play older gen games on PS5?"
"Yeah."
"Remove that shit. who would want to play older games anyway?"

Also remember when Phil Harrison talked down rumble, and then we got rumble. These guys like to downplay what they don't have until they have it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Because of how bad the graphics looked next to the newer generation stuff at the event he was speaking of. I don't think it was meant to be taken literally, rather a facetious comment in the context of comparison. Obviously he understands many (albeit probably still a minority in the grand scheme) want BC, as do PlayStation in general, which is presumably why the PS2 and PS3 had BC in some form or at some point. The PS4 was the outlier, but you could argue a large part of that was due to architectural complications between the PS3 and PS4.
I want to believe your right, but I really think he meant what he said, unfortunately.
Yeah but you don't know that. Neither does anyone else but Sony higher ups. Its best to wait and see at this point. If no BC is announced at PS5 launch then by all means start sharpening the pitchforks.
True, but I do not think this is a good sign at all. Also, just to be clear, I'm 100% sure that PS5 will be BC with PS4. That was never in question to me. I was referring to support for older PS platforms, which I do not believe will be present on PS5.
 
Nov 5, 2017
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I have never met this guy in person and he might be the nicest person in the world, but I’m not getting a good feeling from him at all. Something very strange about him and I think this will be a bad move for Sony
 
Oct 30, 2017
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He didn't just say people don't use it (which isn't true as we have data from X1 showing it is a widely used feature), he also said "why would anyone play those games?" , outright insulting the legacy of PlayStation. It was a ridiculous and terrible statement.
His data would of been based on PS3, he was a bit clumsy in his wording but he wasn't incorrect. BC is great for Xbox but it hasn't dramatically helped MS sell more units. Most gamers want games designed and built around the current gen, BC is just a bonus.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There goes BC out the window.
Sony's ready for getting their ass kicked next generation it seems.
What the hell even is it with shitty takes like these?

Sony aren't going to have been working on their upcoming console for years and have clearly been working on BC only to just change everything right before announcing it because Jim Ryan gave a corporate reason once a few years back on why their product didn't have a feature their main competitor had.

Seriously, the amount of sheer ignorance and/or salt on display in this thread is some of the worst I have ever seen. No ability to look at the big picture, take things in context or use any real logic at all by many people here.

Just utterly ridiculous and embarrassing.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I agree that PS4 BC the most important. I also think that's why it's the only Console PS5 will have BC for. I wish Sony felt differently, but I fear they don't, and I think that appointing Jim Ryan as CEO only cements that. I'm sure he's good at what he does, and his appointment as CEO won't be utterly disastrous or anything, but for BC and legacy support (something that I value very much, and that Sony used to be the kings of), I do not think this is a good omen of things to come.
PS4 could technically have had PS1/PS2 support, digital at least, but it didn't. If that remains the approach it won't be because Jim Ryan is being Jim Ryan and he's doubling down on his own opinion. These decisions are made based on market analysis, and the current orientation was arrived at under Kaz or Andrew House. If the market analysis tells him differently, Ryan's tune would change.

(I mention PS1/PS2 only because I think PS3 remains a technical difficulty, even next gen).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Been saying this for a while... Sony is an utter shit show at the moment. Luckily they don’t need to do much for a successful PS5. Seems like the narrative provided by the old management was false and they just jumped ship. Of course, jury is still out.

I miss Andrew House.
I agree! Sony better appoint Druckmann as President of SIE soon if they want to right the ship.
 
Oct 8, 2018
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Don't worry. This thread will be the era equivalent of the famous gaf next gen prediction thread. And yes nothing changed since then.
that thread was hilarious looking back. practically everywhere was "sony are doomed and will stop making consoles."
now it feels very similar to that same atmosphere around here.
hopefull like last time sony will come up with a great console.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm hoping the PS5 will offer full PS4 BC but I still have my doubts and think Sony and Nintendo will continue to release remasters instead. It's proven to be easy money and I think remakes like Resident Evil 2 are great at keeping older games fresh. There are a ton of games from the past that would sell well based on a facelift but BC is a great for the fans feature.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I'm hoping the PS5 will offer full PS4 BC but I still have my doubts and think Sony and Nintendo will continue to release remasters instead. It's proven to be easy money and I think remakes like Resident Evil 2 are great at keeping older games fresh. There are a ton of games from the past that would sell well based on a facelift but BC is a great for the fans feature.
I think remasters are of far less value to Sony than creating an easy bridge for the current 90m+ active PS4 gamers to cross. Tactical vs strategic - the strategic value in using the PS4 software (be it your network subs, your content), to make PS a continuing default choice as we transition to a new generation, far far outweighs the tactical dollar value of a few remasters here and there.

I think Sony has been subtly hinting at that when they talk about leveraging the strength of the PS4 network over the next 5 years. The number one way to do that is to make it an easy choice to remain within the ecosystem by making everything as seamless as possible.

If the Xbox division of changed the CEO so many times the video game news sites would say that the Xbox was dying.
Well, context is everything, isn't it. I think it's not lost on the press that its an important time for PS though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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His data would of been based on PS3, he was a bit clumsy in his wording but he wasn't incorrect. BC is great for Xbox but it hasn't dramatically helped MS sell more units. Most gamers want games designed and built around the current gen, BC is just a bonus.
I think it would have made a difference if it was there at launch. Don't forget that it almost two years after launch for the feature to be implemented, and that it took years to build the library they have now (which is still only around 25% of the 360 library, and practically nothing from OG Xbox). It was too little, too late to make a meaningful difference.

I also think there's more to Console sales than any one feature. It's a combination of features and value that makes Consoles sell, and I think it is unfair to say that because a Console isn't selling well, that means a feature doesn't matter. I could say "Wii U sold poorly, so that must mean great exclusives don't matter" , but that isn't really a true statement is it? There were other factors at play, like bad hardware and terrible marketing. That doesn't it didn't have fantastic exclusives tho.

Similarly, I don't think X1 selling poorly despite BC doesn't mean the feature doesn't matter, only that it can't single-handedly change a Console's fortunes, and that it's absence won't prevent people from buying a new platform. I think that is true of any single aspect of a Console tho, is my point. A Console can have great hardware, but if it's too expensive, that doesn't matter. A Console can be cheap, but if it isn't powerful enough to run games well, that doesn't matter. A Console can have great exclusives, but if everything else about it is a trainwreck, that doesn't matter. A Console can have BC, but if everything else about it is unappealing compared to it's competition, that doesn't matter.

In other words, no single feature can sell a Console. So, a Console's sales should not be used to say a feature doesn't matter or wouldn't contribute to sales in a different situation. If everything else between X1 and PS4 had been equal, and X1 had offered extensive BC, I think it would have made a difference. I think BC is perhaps not as important as other features, but I do absolutely think it matters to a lot of people, and can make a difference in the right circumstances.
What the hell even is it with shitty takes like these?

Sony aren't going to have been working on their upcoming console for years and have clearly been working on BC only to just change everything right before announcing it because Jim Ryan gave a corporate reason once a few years back on why their product didn't have a feature their main competitor had.

Seriously, the amount of sheer ignorance and/or salt on display in this thread is some of the worst I have ever seen. No ability to look at the big picture, take things in context or use any real logic at all by many people here.

Just utterly ridiculous and embarrassing.
I don't think Jim Ryan being in charge of PlayStation means anything will change about PS5 at this point. But I do think his appointment as CEO means Sony as a whole doesn't contest his past views or beliefs on things like BC and Crossplay.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I think remasters are of far less value to Sony than creating an easy bridge for the current 90m+ active PS4 gamers to cross. Tactical vs strategic - the strategic value in using the PS4 software (be it your network subs, your content), to make PS a continuing default choice as we transition to a new generation, far far outweighs the tactical dollar value of a few remasters here and there.

I think Sony has been subtly hinting at that when they talk about leveraging the strength of the PS4 network over the next 5 years. The number one way to do that is to make it an easy choice to remain within the ecosystem by making everything as seamless as possible.
Sony is smug enough to think they've already won next gen but i hope you're right. The counter to your argument though are unreleased games like The Last of Us 2 which could come out on the PS4 then a year later on the PS5, thus double dipping like Rockstar likes to do.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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All Sony has to do is offer BC support for PS4 games and continue making remasters, and, most of all, remakes. There's still going to be a market for it regardless of BC.

That way they increase PS5 value, diminish whatever small outrage there is out there about lack of BC and will still bring in sales from remaking old games. Win win breh.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Ohio
PS4 could technically have had PS1/PS2 support, digital at least, but it didn't. If that remains the approach it won't be because Jim Ryan is being Jim Ryan and he's doubling down on his own opinion. These decisions are made based on market analysis, and the current orientation was arrived at under Kaz or Andrew House. If the market analysis tells him differently, Ryan's tune would change.

(I mention PS1/PS2 only because I think PS3 remains a technical difficulty, even next gen).
I agree it won't be because of Jim Ryan, but I also think it means the company as a whole does not contest or disagree with the things he has said in the past. That is what I find unsettling about his appointment as CEO.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Sony is smug enough to think they've already won next gen but i hope you're right. The counter to your argument though are unreleased games like The Last of Us 2 which could come out on the PS4 then a year later on the PS5, thus double dipping like Rockstar likes to do.
Well, tbh, I think remasters could still happen regardless of BC. If the remaster offers enough enhancement over the original played on the new machine then there can still be a market for them. But even if BC does undermine the value of remasters to a certain extent, I still think that strategically PS4 BC is of much more important value today in the bigger picture. I'm not even sure the market for remasters is all that big...

I agree it won't be because of Jim Ryan, but I also think it means the company as a whole does not contest or disagree with the things he has said in the past. That is what I find unsettling about his appointment as CEO.
I think the data-tail is wagging the dog. If the data/business intelligence said otherwise, that would be challenged. Ryan shared a personal opinion about how the games looked, but Sony's approach to PS1/PS2 games on PS4 was informed by market analysis, not out of Ryan's opinion. His opinion about how games held up was an after-the-fact embellishment on his explanation of the approach to PS1/PS2 games, not the root of it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Shahid (formerly SIE) seems very fond of Jim
Nah, nothing matters as people will only talk about his stupid BC statements and boring presentations which are his defining moments of his career in their eyes because let's be honest, the sensationalist and reactionary approach is the best approach amirite?
A wait and see approach? No,that's crazy talk, it's time to panic.

I don't like the guy either but Ryan has been in the PS business since the PS2 days (maybe even earlier?) I'm sure they didn't give him this position because there was no one else left willing to do the job. People need to give the man a chance, even though you might not find him as meme-able as the other execs.

What I think is strange though, is the fact that Kodera left his position to work on PSN, forgive my English but he actually decided to downgrade his position? Was it really because he prefered to work on PSN or was it because he wasn't the right person for the position in his (or others') eyes?
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't worry. This thread will be the era equivalent of the famous gaf next gen prediction thread. And yes nothing changed since then.
Yeah ever since the cross play thing and MS dropping the most powerful console, news from either company has been met with more & more 'spin' if not downright wishful thinking around Arrogant Sony being overtaken next gen by Consumer-Bro Underdog, Microsoft.
 
Dec 5, 2017
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All I can say about Jim Ryan is, that he is certainly not a marketing guy. He's rather blunt and not a great public speaker. That may be a good thing or a bad thing, idk ...

I'm certainly not gonna conjure up images of "arrogant Sony" like so many seem to be fond of.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I hope he steers the division in the right direction. His BC comment was a little bit tactless, but he does have a good point, as it seems BC is the sort of thing we all want, but at the end of the day we mostly don't use it due to the sheer number of new gamers.

Still, I've amassed a much bigger library in comparison to PS3, so I hope this is a possibility for the PS5.

Also, I believe this will be a good thread to revisit in the future :)