OK there are a few that I would play too. For the most part though I wouldn't spend much time on playing games that old and most people wouldn't which is what he was saying. It's a niche thing especially for games that old. The fact remains that the man isn't against BC as a whole as he wasn't referring to PS3 titles. He was saying why would someone go back and play Gran Turismo 1 or 2 when you can play the newest one. Most people are not going to play GT1 or GT2 over GT Sport. They just look too bad at this point.This is not true at all there are MANY PS1 games people would like to go back and play. Hell if they put some of those on the PS Classic maybe it wouldn't have cratered.
Same thing with the PS2. There are even MORE games on that that people would love to revisit than on the PS1.
I play OG Xbox and 360 games on my X just as much as I do modern games.
it being $599 didn't help, and games looking worse then 360 counterparts, also see why why XBO being $100 more and games looking worse the ps4 games.
OK there are a few that I would play too. For the most part though I wouldn't spend much time on playing games that old and most people wouldn't which is what he was saying. It's a niche thing especially for games that old. The fact remains that the man isn't against BC as a whole as he wasn't referring to PS3 titles. He was saying why would someone go back and play Gran Turismo 1 or 2 when you can play the newest one. Most people are not going to play GT1 or GT2 over GT Sport. They just look too bad at this point.
Unless SIE Europe has a different strategy than SIE NA and SIE Japan, I don't see him having any hand in their dominance of the EU.
It's a fucking PR statement. We all know the real reason why the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible is because it wasn't really feasible at the time because either adding the cell processor or emulating the cell processor would've been way too costly. PS5 will probably have backwards compatibility. Hell, that's probably going to be the headlining feature and he's going to forget he even said that.
They pretty much say why. Kodera wants to focus 100% on PSN.Aside from not being a fan of this decision (unless Jim Ryan publicly comes out in favor of backward compatibility at some point), I wonder why he and Kodera swapped jobs with Kodera only having the title for less than 2 years.
How would you possibly in any way know this to say it with any kind of authority or certainty? What do you or anyone else here possibly know about what his job responsibilities are, let alone whether or not he does them well? You are just writing the narrative first and making shit up to fit it. Some of the shit in this thread is embarrassingly stupid.
Any decisions on backwards compatibility have already been made on PS5. Jim doesn't have anything to do with that anyway.It's a fucking PR statement. We all know the real reason why the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible is because it wasn't really feasible at the time because either adding the cell processor or emulating the cell processor would've been way too costly. PS5 will probably have backwards compatibility. Hell, that's probably going to be the headlining feature and he's going to forget he even said that.
Aside from not being a fan of this decision (unless Jim Ryan publicly comes out in favor of backward compatibility at some point), I wonder why he and Kodera swapped jobs with Kodera only having the title for less than 2 years.
"I have been discussing with Yoshida-san the need to drive SIE to the next phase in our rapidly changing business environment, and realize the evolution of the PlayStation® platform and further enriching the user experiences made possible through the network, which is an essential value that people expect in the entertainment PlayStation® provides. As a result, we have concluded that the best direction is for Jim to take the helm of the overall management of SIE, and for me to spearhead the network area to continue creating innovative services and experiences, where competition continues to intensify with many new players joining the business. Jim has extensive knowledge around the game business and industry, as well as deep understanding of the PlayStation® culture and strengths. I am confident that he will lead us to greater success as CEO of SIE. I will continue to support Jim by contributing to further strengthening user engagement, and to the overall growth of the PlayStation® business. I also aim to leverage my experience and accumulated expertise to contribute to strengthening the Sony Group's DX (Digital Transformation) strategy."
Cool. That doesn't mean he is wrong because you would though. Most people aren't playing PS1 or PS2 games today.I would absolutely play GT2 over GT Sport, and have recently. I really enjoy GT Sport, but I love the career of GT2. I would also go back to GT4 over GT Sport. Or GT6.
I think the importance of BC has changed over the last 2-3 years if you think about a services that could make use of it. Maybe that is the reason people are now skeptical about the stance Jim Ryan stated.Like I said, I am mostly being silly, as there were plenty of other issues.
But I do think it shows that it's not as big of a value proposition as most people try to make it to be, which is directly in line with Ryan's stance.
PS3 phat wasn't even the normal software emulation solution, correct?
Those phat PS3s actually included PS2 chips in the hardware iirc.
Basically. If engineering can make it happen it's going to happen.Any decisions on backwards compatibility have already been made on PS5. Jim doesn't have anything to do with that anyway.
I mean - hasn't Playstation been dominant in Europe for decades now? Is Jim Ryan responsible for that success, or was he just the beneficiary of overseeing a strong and established brand? Anyway, I'm sure he'll be fine - seems like a safe choice.
Yeah, can't stand the guy. He doesn't represent the best that Playstation can be. He normally seems like the worst that they can be, from some of the stuff he's said.Yes the person with the most experience and success who would want that?
It's a fucking PR statement. We all know the real reason why the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible is because it wasn't really feasible at the time because either adding the cell processor or emulating the cell processor would've been way too costly. PS5 will probably have backwards compatibility. Hell, that's probably going to be the headlining feature and he's going to forget he even said that.
Yeah, can't stand the guy. He doesn't represent the best that Playstation can be. He normally seems like the worst that they can be, from some of the stuff he's said.
To be fair the two most popular consoles of last two years have no backwards capability. So I don't think it's really that important to the casual audience.I think the importance of BC has changed over the last 2-3 years if you think about a services that could make use of it. Maybe that is the reason people are now skeptical about the stance Jim Ryan stated.
It's a fucking PR statement. We all know the real reason why the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible is because it wasn't really feasible at the time because either adding the cell processor or emulating the cell processor would've been way too costly. PS5 will probably have backwards compatibility. Hell, that's probably going to be the headlining feature and he's going to forget he even said that.
Cool. That doesn't mean he is wrong because you would though. Most people aren't playing PS1 or PS2 games today.
You and I will just have to disagree about this. From what I see there aren't a ton of people playing the Xbox 360 games on Xbox One and even less are going to play PS1 and PS2 games that look and control far worse than last gen games do. Just b/c a tiny, niche audience might doesn't mean it's relevant.Simply because there isn't a convenient way to do it today aside from pulling out and hooking up the old systems. And with some of them you run into the HDMI problem as many modern TVs don't have connections for a PS1 or PS2 composite, S-Video, or even component input. There's a market of people producing HDMI solutions for older consoles because, gasp, people still want to play the games they've invested a lot of money into. But again, right now there's not a real easy way to play your PS1 or PS2 games without hunting down one of those custom-made adapters.
If you could just put a PS1 or PS2 disc in your PS4 and play it via HDMI on your modern 4K TV (like you can with Xbox and 360 games on the Xbox One), people WOULD play them. There's just that barrier of convenience that exists right now.
Kodera wanted to work with services/network again.
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This.It's a fucking PR statement. We all know the real reason why the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible is because it wasn't really feasible at the time because either adding the cell processor or emulating the cell processor would've been way too costly. PS5 will probably have backwards compatibility. Hell, that's probably going to be the headlining feature and he's going to forget he even said that.
Agreed. He's said some crazy stuff at times, hopefully to be the one taking the hit, but he's also been there a long time and has seemingly been extremely successful during that time.The reactions in this thread are pretty embarassing. Clearly very few people read the actual press release where it essentially states why Kodera is changing roles. Secondly, good for Jim Ryan. I've laughed at some of the things he's said before but I don't hold a grudge against the guy like everyone else seems too... he knows what he's doing and I'm sure he'll do a fine job.
Druckmann got tired of firing devs. He's taking down the corporations now!
The biggest party ever. You're just not invited.
I hope someday people would understand that games form CRT-era is a poor match for current gen LCD/OLED/AMOLED panels. For many-many-many reasons, but mainly because of assets. I've remembered Ace Combat 5 as beatiful game, but even with proper BC and clever upscaling it downright ugly right now (got mine with AC 7). Assets from the old games were never meant to be seen on HDTVs, let alone 4K panels. Even some effects and textures were made with CRT softness in mind.If you could just put a PS1 or PS2 disc in your PS4 and play it via HDMI on your modern 4K TV (like you can with Xbox and 360 games on the Xbox One), people WOULD play them. There's just that barrier of convenience that exists right now.
LMAO
So only 110 million PS5 consoles sold next gen? Bummer :(
dont forget that he also wants to protect the children!!! those darn kids on Xbox and Switch and there Minecraft houses!
LOL
We already know Sony's three regions operate independently. This has been commented on by them in the past. Jim Ryan has also commented on it himself, while speaking about the differences in the markets and their approaches. You can even see it in how SIEE tends to be a lot better about bundles as well as retailer specific advertising among other things.I am not intending to come off that way, but to be fair others are somehow attributing SCE/SIE EU's success to him specifically as well, so your statement applies to both sides of that.
That said based off your (and others') response it seems like some in the thread are taking my stance antagonistically, which I absolutely do not mean it to. So I apologize for any frustration and/or offense, and will hush up now.
This. People are a bit too hung up on that statement as if he wasn't told that narrative to say as it's alot better than stating the real reason is a technological one when your competitor can do it.It's a fucking PR statement. We all know the real reason why the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible is because it wasn't really feasible at the time because either adding the cell processor or emulating the cell processor would've been way too costly. PS5 will probably have backwards compatibility. Hell, that's probably going to be the headlining feature and he's going to forget he even said that.
My thoughts exactly.I hope someday people would understand that games form CRT-era is a poor match for current gen LCD/OLED/AMOLED panels. For many-many-many reasons, but mainly because of assets. I've remembered Ace Combat 5 as beatiful game, but even with proper BC and clever upscaling it downright ugly right now (got mine with AC 7). Assets from the old games were never meant to be seen on HDTVs, let alone 4K panels. Even some effects and textures were made with CRT softness in mind.
If you really want to play ANY retro game from your closet, you can always buy RetroPie with HDMI out for like 60 bucks. The truth is, It's hard to find time to play some new games (my current backlog is a nightmare), let alone play old titles from 2 generations ago. And that's why basically Ryan is right. BC is a good PR when you don't have actual 1st party game library, but it's hardly a really requested feature in general.