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JJ Abrams on bringing back Palpatine in The Rise of Skywalker
- Thread starter Bor Gullet
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I feel like this is all for the sake of pushing buzz and the actual result will be a stupid flashback.
I also don't know any books where the last few chapters are written with barely any coordination between them.
They could easily go south with this but I don't mind setting Palpatine up as the ultra-mega-bad guy of the entire series.
If Lucas had taken a different direction with the prequels, then sure, but as it stands Palpatine already occupies that role in six of the nine movies (arguably five since he's never directly referenced in A New Hope, but still - Tarkin is never assumed to be the head of the Empire, and Vader is treated as a mercenary in that film). Bringing him into the mix gives the sequel trilogy a stronger place within the context of not only the OT but the prequels as well, which up until now have mostly been ignored.
I dunno, I'm excited. If it sucks, it's not like the Star Wars series hasn't had bad movies in it before.
If Lucas had taken a different direction with the prequels, then sure, but as it stands Palpatine already occupies that role in six of the nine movies (arguably five since he's never directly referenced in A New Hope, but still - Tarkin is never assumed to be the head of the Empire, and Vader is treated as a mercenary in that film). Bringing him into the mix gives the sequel trilogy a stronger place within the context of not only the OT but the prequels as well, which up until now have mostly been ignored.
I dunno, I'm excited. If it sucks, it's not like the Star Wars series hasn't had bad movies in it before.
imagine being so intellectually bankrupt that you can't understand the continuity of ideas in a work beyond literal characters and plot elementsAn excerpt from the Empire magazine.
this is like saying "look, Death Stars were a big thing in the original trilogy, so we HAD to have more Death Stars"
My wild speculation: Snoke was a patsy inhabited by the ghost of the Emperor.
After TLJ, I feel like this final 'trilogy' should have opted to do 4 films, closing the Skywalker Saga with X
It just feels weird. Man do I dislike TLJs choices in the greater context of the saga and trilogy. Everything feels so small, and IX is going to do some wonky stuff outta nowhere to reignite that scale and mythos
It just feels weird. Man do I dislike TLJs choices in the greater context of the saga and trilogy. Everything feels so small, and IX is going to do some wonky stuff outta nowhere to reignite that scale and mythos
Plot twist:
Palpatine never died. When he fell down the shaft Palpatine from the future appeared through time travel and saved himself. Then he teaches his younger self how to hide, build an army of star destroyers and use Snoke as puppet.
This is like those AIs that you feed old scripts into to get a new one.
i dont believe him for a second that this film is the conclusion to 8 movies of set-up
i dont even believe that the trilogy itself has been building to this, the ST has felt like little more than wheelspinning in the grand scheme of star wars to me
feels like a colossal ass pull to drum up interest, and if this is what they had planned and it was supposed to feel completely organic and cohesive, they seemed to have royally fucked it up
i dont even believe that the trilogy itself has been building to this, the ST has felt like little more than wheelspinning in the grand scheme of star wars to me
feels like a colossal ass pull to drum up interest, and if this is what they had planned and it was supposed to feel completely organic and cohesive, they seemed to have royally fucked it up
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Could have actually bothered to make Snoke more of a thing that you made but sure, lets just dig up Palpatine again.
I like the new films (particularly the new characters) but really wish they actually felt like they were moving the series forward with new ideas rather than being a nostalgia ride.
Meet The Resistance, same as the Rebellion. They fight The First Order, same as The Empire..
I like the new films (particularly the new characters) but really wish they actually felt like they were moving the series forward with new ideas rather than being a nostalgia ride.
Meet The Resistance, same as the Rebellion. They fight The First Order, same as The Empire..
"L-Lord Sidious..?" Rey stuttered as she walked into the New Death Star Chamber.
Darth Sidious spun around in his chair, much like a Bond villain would in the films, "Yes, Rey?"
The girl looked around the office, trying her best to avoid the Sith's crushing gaze, "We have a problem..."
As Rey accompanied the Sith towards the meeting, she explained what was observed worldwide.
Fumbling through several papers in this binder she had, Rey attempted to explain the situation. "You see, Master, we have had multiple reported sightings of a strange creature wreaking havoc throughout multiple cities. It appears to be looking for something, we've sent out Squads A, B, C, and D, but nobody has been able to subdue the creature, with words or force."
The Master seemed rather unnerved by this information, he was simply waving to the people he passed, and even exchanged a quick handshake with a particular Bounty Hunter.
Rey continued, "The creature has been seen in East and West Cities, oddly enough it can't seem to hurt people, but it is able to destroy anything mechanical. Squad C lost the creature before bringing us this information. We fear that it may be getting stronger."
Darth Sidious still was taking a pleasant stroll throughout the Death Star, just smiling and waving as he went by. "Understood, anything else?"
The Master was a titan of charisma, Rey was sure of it now. "It's getting stronger by the day, and we are tempted to send out Squad N in order to deal with it."
He stopped, Rey almost tripped before noticing that he had done so, "Squad N will be unable to do anything to the creature. Send Squad S."
Rey failed to hide her surprise, "S-Squad S? Why them... Why him...? They wouldn't be able to do anything to the Creature is Squad N couldn't do it! The monster's power source--"
Master Sidious chuckled, "You mean the Chaos Emeralds? That's exactly why we need him." And he continued walking.
I hate the fact that in 2019 I could see this actually being the plot of a Star Wars film wow
Why couldn't we just have Jacen and Jaina?
It's Sheev, bro. Call him by the right name.
I personally don't care about Star Wars, but Im looking forward to this solely because the memes are going to be so good.
I personally don't care about Star Wars, but Im looking forward to this solely because the memes are going to be so good.
I think they are going to get this trilogy out of the way and then truly take the films forward into new areas, I get the feeling that they know they relied too heavily on the OT for ideas so far. Nostalgia based content will be restricted to TV from now on.
I'm maybe one of the few, but i liked most parts of Ep VIII, and that we kinda said goodbye to the past, but JJ is just gonna redo one of the earlier movies and sell it as new one, isn't he? I mean, he did it with EP VII.
Meh, he's not wrong.
Any three act story (PT being the first act, so forth OT and lastly ST) needs to come around. Sheev is like Chekovs Gun.
Any three act story (PT being the first act, so forth OT and lastly ST) needs to come around. Sheev is like Chekovs Gun.
Same. It tells me that Abrams is actually trying to tie this coherent mess together, wrap it up, and set things up for the future.
He's lying. Darth Jar Jar was the mastermind all along. Jar Jar is/was, in actuality, Darth Plagueis. After Darth Sidious killed Darth Plagueis in his sleep, he reincarnated as the "fool" Jar Jar Binks.
Anyway, that would be a terrific angle. Disney, I'll take my paycheck in the millions please.
Anyway, that would be a terrific angle. Disney, I'll take my paycheck in the millions please.
That was the bad guy who said that. It was meant to be wrong...
Put a little GoT-style bow on it and the franchise might finally get some well-deserved rest.
i mean, considering both JJ's Star Wars movies have Death Stars in them . . .
IX is the ending though. I doubt there will be anything in the "set up" sense.
I will give them one thing...when Snoke was torturing Rey and the Emperor's theme started playing, I felt like they might be starting to lean towards a connection between Snoke and Sheev. It might just have been a lazy music cue from John Williams but it was there.
No "chapter" of this "book" was written with any level of coordination or planning between them -- not even the four "chapters" written solely by Lucas himself.