He collaborated on exactly such racist policies. Have you even done any research at all?
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Joe Biden Draws Fire From Rivals Over Remarks About Segregationist Senators (See Staff Post)
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He collaborated on exactly such racist policies. Have you even done any research at all?
watch the clip there's more that wasn't quoted in the tweet and it's all spot on. brings up obama, what biden owes to him (his front runner status), and speaks to what obama would have been if people joe biden is all chummy with had their way.
If Biden wins the nomination I'm going to be fucking livid. All that handwringing over Hillary and she would have been a much better president than Biden.
Honestly, it's the doubling down that's the worst. I'd rather not vote for somebody who pushed terrible policies, but people can evolve and many candidates have shown they have. But he's acting like it's shameful to question or point out his flaws over the years.
Yeah, it's not the most supportive story. She doesn't even say she believes he's better now. The reporter fucked up too though, and honestly that's more infuriating. She mistakenly says he was talking about reaching across the aisle, but he was talking about democrats. Why is this point so hard for some to understand?!
Next week Wednesday and Thursday.
Biden would lose the general.
I know the polls have him up, but I feel like the dems need an exciting candidate to win.
Lots of disillusioned voters since 2016.
Biden is literally everything certain folks were accusing Clinton of being, exactly what I said we'd end up with if Trump won, and the person those same people who are now bellyaching about him kept saying they wished had run instead of her.
Thankfully I have his inability not to sink his own ship to cling to in hoping he fails the nomination.
Convention's gonna be brokered though and I'm not sure Sanders would be qilling to give his delegates to Warren.
next week 25th, Biden is on the 26th, Kamala for sure will take a shot
Coates always with the facts
I understand that a Trump administration means the courts get packed with conservative activist judges, and that is certainly a concern for any number of potentially impacted issues, from reproductive choice to gay rights. But my fear, with Biden, is the likelihood of America developing an acute sense of amnesia and treating this northern neoconfederate with a congenial disposition and more inclusive vocabulary as a return to normalcy and a status quo that has done horrific damage to the black community. Sometimes forced and unwanted, America is still in the midst of a much needed conversation with herself about the history of this country and the unaddressed question of race. Trump initiated that dialogue and we're just in the beginning leg of what will be a marathon discussion. I want that conversation to continue, but I don't think it will if Biden is elected. Though, I do believe another Democrat could help us build upon this pivotal moment in American history to reach tangible solutions, someone like Warren.
Biden is not only a terrible nominee who would lose all direction the moment he beat Trump, but he represents a complete dead end in term of political ideology.
Congressional bipartisanship, the GOP going "back to normal", nothing significant in the material conditions of the country changing, etc.
Hopefully things start changing with the debates or once the field gets smaller. Very sad to see him as the front runner.
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Fuck Biden and Pelosi. They're trying to hold this country back.
At the height of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s landmark Montgomery bus boycott, Eastland told a segregationist rally that "In every stage of the bus boycott we have been oppressed and degraded because of black, slimy, juicy, unbearably stinking n*****s." According to Robert Caro's Master Of The Senate, Eastland went on to urge the crowd to "abolish the Negro race" with "guns, bows and arrows, slingshots, and knives."
Biden: "You go down the list of all these guys. Well guess what? At least there was some civility"Source
You mean call and not apologize when everyone wants you to apologize? Probably just Biden.
Biden is right about the GOP willing to play ball if he's the president. The GOP would be dealing with one of their own in Biden.
Also, fuck Pelosi. There's still people here defending her for some reason but she's just trash.
Also, fuck Pelosi. There's still people here defending her for some reason but she's just trash.
lmao
Can't watch the video at work, what does Booker say about the phone call?
Nancy really showing what she's made of, now.
Biden giving racists a thumbs up and Nacy going along for the ride while clutching pearls @ AOC over fake ass antisemitism accusations by the fascist right.
I say again, centrism and status quo helps the fascists.
Biden giving racists a thumbs up and Nacy going along for the ride while clutching pearls @ AOC over fake ass antisemitism accusations by the fascist right.
I say again, centrism and status quo helps the fascists.
The question in that tweet's video was "did he ask you to apologize" not "did he apologize" which seems to me like setting the bar extremely low. Booker answered something like "no, but it's not about me. what he did was hurtful to everyone."
It's obvious his campaign told the press about "a call" in hopes it gets read as an apology without ever apologizing. If they actually wanted to apologize, they'd say it. Same exact thing happened with Anita Hill, and it's gross.
This politico piece says directly that he did not apologize:
Actually reading the articles, I think this is an instance of sensationalized headlines. Pelosi's defense of Biden is pretty tepid and is basically a shrug of the shoulders and going "that's who he is, it's not my place to decide if that's right or wrong" and she doesn't even really criticize AOC at all. The only thing about AOC she says is that she hasn't talked to her about it yet and then offers a very generic "democrats need to be careful of what they say because it will be heavily sensationalized and be used as ammo against them". Which is what ironically seems to have happened to Pelosi here.
It's always best to be skeptical of any headline that suggests there's a beef between Pelosi and AOC or establishment Dems and the progressive class. Most of them are mild disagreements or comments that are then blown up to fit pre-existing narratives that these two sides are at war with each other or something.
He certainly would be the *final nail* in the coffin, he wouldn't move the needle or turn back any of the shit Trump has done.
If she can't call someone who supported segregation what they are, then she's garbage. They all know Biden is the best chance moderates have at winning which is why she isn't saying shit. When it comes down to it people like her don't give a shit about racism as long as their pocket books and position of power are protected.
Pelosi makes it a point to remain neutral during the primary process, and her language reflects that.
(She has, however, expressed the belief that the nominees should pull "center left" and "mainstream" in order to win "big."
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I partly agree but mostly disagree. She isn't going to go hard on Biden because there's a decent chance he becomes the Democratic Presidential nominee and it doesn't do anyone in the party any good by having the Democrat House speaker calling him a segregationist. I don't think this makes her a garbage person (I think there are other better reasons to think she's a garbage person), but in this specific instance I don't think there's anything wrong with her comments. She is the Democrat speaker of the house, she is supposed to be neutral to vaguely positive on every potential nominee.
Yep. It's sad to see people here so easily hoodwinked by this kind of reductive sensationalism.
As a non American my impression is that Pelosi, Biden, etc. are just a representation of what Democrats have always been until the recent emergence of younger, fresher faces with more 21st century ideologies, with the exception of Sanders who seems like he was genuinely a progressive from the start.
Republicans are the in-your-face racists, pro-wealthy, pro-white-privilege, old school Democrats, the self called centrists, are the same, but they hide it better.
Republicans are the in-your-face racists, pro-wealthy, pro-white-privilege, old school Democrats, the self called centrists, are the same, but they hide it better.
I wish he would do the decent thing and drop out. Then again if he had any his ass wouldn't have put himself in the running in the first place. Booker likely has no chance and if it looks like a sure thing that he doesn't, he should invite Joe for a public apology and slap the shit out of him on camera.
Pelosi is trying to thread a needle between voters that are rightfully angry and keeping the same strategy Democrats have used for decades. It's not like her methods are mystical secrets. I just don't get it, I mean I do but it's very demotivating to have this rich, old, white person sit back and give her 'we can't do better' bullshit.
That's because that is what a chunk of this thread is. When you claimed he was as good as the fucking racist you showed how you'll take it too far. Don't worry you're not the only one. If calling out ridiculous conclusions means (somehow) I don't care about black Americans and now I have to defend myself against something you said, well fuck that.
the pelosi quote kind of seems like she's shitting on Biden
like "yup, that's who he is. he's a piece of shit but he's authentic about it."
like "yup, that's who he is. he's a piece of shit but he's authentic about it."
It's a cowardly thing to do.
His original comments were in public and the leak is his attempt to muddy the waters.
It's a bit similar to the non-endorsement from Obama spun into an endorsement. His non-apology is being worked through the system as good enough.
You're advocating for a black U.S. senator to publicly assault the former Vice President who is 76?
Yeah, I was kind of surprised by the video posted earlier. Considering Biden's standing and being a VP, I expected far more supportive language than "that's his life experience."
Could you imagine asking someone if they'd run a ticket with a dude that tried to whitesplain them on Juneteenth?
if he can't stand behind his record and who he is then get the fuck out of the primary
you think donny and co. are gonna cool it if he makes it through?
If he can't take this well-deserved heat then what business does he have wanting to be the nominee?
How else are they going to get more time in the spotlight and rile up their supporters?
It's the primaries. This is exactly what they are supposed to be doing.
Hey, remember a few months back, when far more people on this site were having a conniption about Sanders running again, instead of Biden? Good times.