Also way to give more attention to infighting, that doesn't help any progressive.
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Joe Biden Draws Fire From Rivals Over Remarks About Segregationist Senators (See Staff Post)
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You're not a monolith but you're dismissing out of hand any black person with an opinion contrary to your singular perspective.
It's absolutely fucked that establishment Dems are telling Booker to be quiet. Disgusting. But you're doing the same to these "old black politicians".
The sad thing is that they cannot read the tea leaves. The jarring defense of some democrats falling on the sword to protect the "optics" of someone in their party rightfully being raked over the coals will forever be a sign of it.
And when you think of it, Biden could've largely diffused the situation if he actually owned up for his shit. Instead, he has the gall to be out here calling for Corey Booker to apologize for daring to call out his behavior
We have this unfortunate tendency to romanticize "civil rights," making what they purportedly enshrined into our laws something more than what they amount to. Right before he was killed, MLK began second guessing his push for "civil rights," wondering if he was shepherding black America into the burning house of integration. In hindsight, were he alive today, he would probably have regrets about just how singular his focus on "integration" was. Black wealth is projected to be at zero in just a few decades. Black unemployment continues to be at a disproportionate high, in an economy that is reportedly quite buoyant. Gentrification is displacing black families in all major cities, sending these refugees to the outskirts of major metropolises. Segregation in schooling, such as the appalling disparity in funding between predominantly black and white school districts, continues to this day. I don't think I need to mention the prison system, its cells filled with black men and women who were incarcerated thanks to Joe Biden's crime bill; or the black men, women and children who continue to be gunned down with impunity by police.
It might've been par for the course 30 years ago for a senior politician to chide a younger one for speaking "out of turn", but this is no longer the shape of modern politics. Politicans live and die depending on how well they can navigate optic land mines, they can't just pull rank all the time.
As far as I can tell, Biden knows no other form of politics.
Yeah but to be fair the "lawmakers" weren't even named so who knows how many it was.
Exactly. I personally only knew that he was 'folksy' and 'a little old fashioned but well meaning'.
People aren't omniscient, they react to things as they are presented, and this kind of stuff was muffled by the media when Obama was in power.
Let's not pretend that this blowing up isn't directly related to Biden's handling of it now.
Putting aside the dual atrocities of mass incarceration and gentrification, the civil rights movement gave us better opportunities at education and participation in politics thanks the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. The Voting Right Act is what John Lewis fought and almost died for, and it's been eroded in recent years by the Shelby County v. Holder case and voter suppression. To imply that things are worse than before the 60s is to be really ignorant. That's not to say that we shouldn't strive for better, we should, but let's not pretend entire cities are being burned to the ground because of racial tensions or that you can't attend university or go to any private business.
I mean this is a dude who a few months ago refused to call Trump racist so who knows. He's realllllly charismatic and good at appearing genuine.
I do respect him for this at least.
In almost 29 years of life the only campaign I have ever donated to was Beto's Presidential run. I am rooting for him or Kamala to grab the nomination. If Warren or Biden snag it I'd be fine! I have no interest in donating to Biden nor will I ever.
It's weird that me not condemning him even though I'm a black individual from the South implies I'm going to bat for him.
Biden talked out of his ass. But I at no point was offended because I don't hate him because he's beating Beto in the polls and I knew what he was trying to say.
I had a much longer post but again, I don't want to engage per the previous staff post. Biden didn't phrase his message remotely intelligently but as a nation hopefully we can work across the divides for our entire betterment.
Personally, hating biden has probably been my most consistent position in politics. Even as an idiot Ron Paul fan I could see Biden was a racist, corporatist, mass jailing warmonger and was uniquely bad for all the same reasons I hate him now. Shows how incredibly loud his dogwhistles are that it's more obvious than even the republicans at the time.
But like, unless you were online and deep into politics 2007 or earlier, when would anyone learn that? And when would it have ever made sense for me to talk about how bad he is between then and now?
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It's not exactly a brag when I admit to being a ron paul idiot in the very next sentence, that's just how bad he is. Seriously, how could you not look at his racist comments, his roll in mass incarceration, his crap bankruptcy bill, his Iraq War support that continued into that primary, and not come to that conclusion? Most probably just didn't know yet, and never had reason to.
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Seriously. Like I had a lot of reservations about Clinton but at least a lot of her campaign was acknowledging the troubling positions she previously took and wanting to work toward remedying them (not all of them obviously but a lot of the big ones). Biden is just doubling down on this and wishing we could go back to peacefully working with racist dixiecrats who want white people to murder black people with a variety of weapons.
Well of course, they and many others wanna go back to the status quo of ignoring the problems of American society.
The party will be so desperate they will start paying Black people for their silence. This mini saga is ridiculous.
It's funny because CNN is shit and trying to frame a narrative
I'm glad i live in the UK where i don't have to worry about the supreme court etc, i can hate a candidate without having to worry about it's impact still being felt decades down the line.
They're trying to push the narrative that black people don't care about Biden's commentary at all. It was very selectively done. So I dunno why you're weirdly trying to pick a fight when it's pretty clear what I mean.
Might not be the appropriate thread, but here it is.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...nistic-comments-race-and-civil-rights/592252/
This guy is rapidly approaching nuclear waste status.
And the people he's trying to appeal to(is actually apart of?) are about to kneecap him anyway!
https://www.newsweek.com/conservati...t-comments-race-ads-during-democratic-1445368
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...nistic-comments-race-and-civil-rights/592252/
This guy is rapidly approaching nuclear waste status.
And the people he's trying to appeal to(is actually apart of?) are about to kneecap him anyway!
https://www.newsweek.com/conservati...t-comments-race-ads-during-democratic-1445368
Should be a new thread tbh, though I guess they would probably lock it and redirect to the main primaries thread.
Biden is approaching some non-ignorable red flag levels. If he cares about the country, he needs to consider dropping out. He's gonna get massacred by the right wing super PACs.
