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Joe Biden Draws Fire From Rivals Over Remarks About Segregationist Senators (See Staff Post)
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Gtfo with this. Siding and arguing its a good thing that he teamed up with a racist who proudly touted whites need to kill black people in order to come together to push discriminatory busing is racist as fuck and deserves to be called for. One person saying otherwise does nothing to change the shit Biden is rightfully getting thrown at him.
Holy shit youre really doing this.
Oh new member with less than 40 posts. Welp.
Fucking gross. This is another example of the Democratic Party taking the AA vote for granted because they know we have no other options.
"Democratic lawmakers warn that Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and other White House hopefuls taking shots at front-runner Joe Biden are playing with fire and could wind up helping President Trump win reelection."
Which Reset poster was this
Which Reset poster was this
After Trump, his flaws are the new normal for the most part. Trump paved the way for a character like Biden.
No. The reason that Biden is popular now is solely because he was VP for the most recent and highly liked Democratic president.
My sense is that Republicans expect a lot less in moral character than democrats, generally speaking. But really what I meant was, Trump went through the works in the republican primaries. I think dems have this strange, and unreasonable expectation the establishment-favorite, should just coast into victory unscathed. And it's really only asking for trouble come Election Day when were all blindsided by these obvious shortcomings.
Biden was the vice president for 8 straight years of gridlock and now I'm supposed to believe he's the only Dem that can communicate with Republicans because he's the fucking racist whisperer. Where was Diamond Joe's white supremacist mojo between the years of 2008 and 2016? It's Donald Trump's hollow, limp dick dealmaker rhetoric all over again.
No, his opinion matters, but that poster used the tweet quote itself to dismiss people's opinions and continue to paint people who took offense to Joe Biden's message as simple "outrage".
If the actual statement is racist I don't mind changing it as that was not my intent.
It wasn't my intent to dismiss him just as a "this African American". If the statement is offensive I will be happy to change it as my intent was not to minimize Rep. Lewis.
We're not a monolith and most of these old black politicians are lackeys for white liberals that're well past their expiration date. John Lewis, James Clyburn, et. al. They never did much of anything for black people, their primary job being to provide cover for Democratic indifference to the plight of black people. They are paid tokens with zero power, much the same way Obama was. A black man who actually aims to do something tangible for black people, like Keith Ellison, is targeted and demonized by his own party.
We gotta accept the dystopian shitty future rather than try to make it better. I got nothing.
Biden sucks. I'd vote for him over Trump, but I don't see people waiting in line for hours to vote for him.
Yeah, don't let these old fuckers continue strawman, misinterpret, and gaslight us into oblivion.
No defense for this shit. I don't care where that defense is coming from, whether it's from some rando on this site or John Lewis's old establishment ass.
Yeah, Lewis never did much of anything. Oh wait.
Again, I think Biden is fucking vile and Lewis is wrong but dismissing a lifetime of civil rights activism because you disagree with him about this is bizarre.
"Bat" for this "Piece of shit"
This is what it has become . Really sad at the about face on him by the few on the left. I am principled enough to not do an about face because he is not as left as I want him to be .
It's pretty much older black people who don't have a problem with what he said and did.
You're only mad because people changed their mind about him?
It's fucked up that you're response to people being rightfully pissed that Biden was thanking a white supremacist on a segregationist policy is "I'm mad that people changed their mind about him." You want people to stick by this man? Why?
Well CNN does like presenting party operatives as "regular voters". So I'd be careful here
Is that your take away. I liked the Obama Biden team then despite issues and I like Biden now even if he is gaffe prone. The only reason I defend him here rather then Stan for Beto who I like as a candidate more is because the about face and firing squad on him as after 8 years of being the VP and not a loud peep is flabbergasting. It's piece of shit Biden this and piece of shit Biden that. I know my feelings on this pair and individuals as potus and vp then. I am not going to start getting angry because he is ahead in the polls
And now it's not just that he is gaffe prone but Joe is a nice guy by some on the left. Now he is a piece of shit, now he Is as bad as trump, now he is worse than trump. The pendulum didn't shift, it broke the side and slammed on the wall
Theres a difference between not being ultra left and being an outright racist piece of shit who sexually assaults women, among his other glaring faults.
Literally changes nothing about the arguments being levied against him.
That's what you're basically saying: you're mad that people changed their mind. It's fucked up that your response to people being rightfully pissed off about this is "I'm mad that you guys changed your mind." Should black people stick up for Biden when he praises a white supremacist for helping out with a segregationist bill? You want black people to stand by him when he says that his crime bill didn't contribute to mass incarceration?
It's not just changing the mind, it's first cheering him on as if he was an old friend then slamming the kitchen sink on him once his time in power of over and spitting on him and saying I never liked you. That's what's happening and yes it is flabbergasting . Again this is not everyone but by a few. Most are showing a level head and will decide without all this hate. And the thing that is most disturbing is this hate which matches the hatred for trump. I mean I get it if Biden was never cheered by you but that's the thing, he was . For 8 years. Those debates with Palin and Paul Ryan Look at reactions by the left. There was ZERO hate for him online. Cheering. And now it's worse than the hatred for Palin
What the fuck did you just say? Disagree with him all you want, i sure do, but you put some fucking respect on that man's name 'cause he was sure as fuck doing more for us before he was in congress than your ass has done in your entire life.
If this was dredging up old shit to point out his flaws, I'd get it, but this is because of things he's saying right now, how he's behaving right now, how he's reacting to criticism right now. He is showing himself as unfit to a lot of people, myself included.
People are reacting to information they weren't aware of before. Their whole outlook on politics have changed. I don't see how that is flabbergasting.
Was that the one speaking out against the war (Vietnam) and capitalism?
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Times have changed. Stuff that happened before is being exposed in ways it wasn't before. I'm not sure why you are confused.
If you worked with someone who serially sniffed, touched and kissed women on the job, would you still be outraged if someone characterized him as a piece of shit? Because that's what a serial harasser is. That's what Biden is.
And that's letting alone his history of racist acts and commentary.
If you put it all together, it's not unreasonable to characterize Biden harshly. I'm not sure what the hand wringing here is even about.
Whatever. What did the black community gain from anything John Lewis has done? Black wealth was higher before the Civil Rights Era. Black families were flourishing before the Civil Rights Era. Where are we now? John Lewis, James Clyburn, Maxine Waters and all of these other career bootlickers of the Democratic party haven't done ANYTHING specific for black people. They never take specific stands on behalf of our community. They buy into that "POC" myth and other liberal platitudes that're conveniently free of rhetoric that specifically addresses the plight of black people in America. How are the black people these bootlickers represent faring? How is the black district Waters represents holding up? Not very well, the walls of gentrification closing in on its black population, their numbers declining while those of whites and Hispanics rise. John Lewis always wants to get on a podium and scream "I shed blood in Selma!!" Well, what did that blood get him, besides a cushy job in Congress and a role as the pacifier of black anger when his services are requested by the party leaders? Now he's out here, as usual, providing cover for a white racist and policing the tone of the black people he's supposedly a representative of.
This isn't about how "left" he is. He's a racist. If you have a problem with people criticizing his racism, that means you are probably one, too.
Yup Based King. I'm not too familiar with John Lewis and wonder how far he went. I tried to Google his views on the Black Panther Party but Google sucks for searches like that.
You done? Stop yelling at the mic and get off. As much as I disagree with Lewis on this issue, it's ridiculous to claim that he's done nothing for civil rights.
At no point in time have I or anyone I've known looked at VP Biden and wished he would be president one day. The country would be much better off with Elizabeth Warren as President rather than Sloppy Joe.
2019 is not 2009, people have lost their patience for bullshit. This backlash isn't happening in a vacuum. It's just another step of a reckoning on the center-left a long time in the making. #metoo was another significant step of this reckoning. Even in this community; the forum exodus was a tiny part of it.
Beyond the racism, this is why Biden is ill-equipped to be president after Trump even if we have a D in the office. His mind and manners are in the 80s while we're out here in 2020. You do not waffle on issues of race anymore unless you want to be pilloried for it, which many Republicans proudly and loudly do. It's where they get their support from, being openly racist, and openly embracing racists. But a Democrat? No, the time for Dixiecrats is over. 2016 was its death knell.
Beyond the racism, this is why Biden is ill-equipped to be president after Trump even if we have a D in the office. His mind and manners are in the 80s while we're out here in 2020. You do not waffle on issues of race anymore unless you want to be pilloried for it, which many Republicans proudly and loudly do. It's where they get their support from, being openly racist, and openly embracing racists. But a Democrat? No, the time for Dixiecrats is over. 2016 was its death knell.
