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Joe Biden supports a ban on government funding for abortion [Update: Now against ban]
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Plan for Climate Change and Environmental Justice | Joe Biden
Joe Biden knows climate change is the greatest threat facing our country and our world, and he has a bold plan for a clean energy revolution.
joebiden.com
Yeah I just mean he's shit on nearly everything, so we shouldn't even need a thread like this because he should stand no chance to begin with.
I mean, there's an assumption about the electorate here that polling seems to indicate isn't the case. Voters are shit.
Plan for Climate Change and Environmental Justice | Joe Biden
Joe Biden knows climate change is the greatest threat facing our country and our world, and he has a bold plan for a clean energy revolution.
Thanks. I just hope whoever America votes in they choose someone who has a responsible plan for the environment, which should be obvious, considering Americans and American companies are some of the biggest contributors to the destruction of the environment.
Yeah, you are. Anything that keeps the current bullshit systematic garbage we put up with running can gtfo. Centrists and Moderates live off keeping the status quo and fucking people. They're all part of the problem.
Yeah, the moment the debate primaries start, we may see Biden losing momentum. In fact, he has already started to lose momentum in the polling as he's not as far ahead of Sanders and Warren as he was previously at the announcement.
I'm hoping when it comes to policy substance, the candidates will rip him a new hole and it will become a real race amongst progressive candidates like Warren and Sanders, but also other alternatives like Butigeg and Harris.
I'm hoping when it comes to policy substance, the candidates will rip him a new hole and it will become a real race amongst progressive candidates like Warren and Sanders, but also other alternatives like Butigeg and Harris.
I mean, that's not really the case:
2020 Democratic Primary
morningconsult.com
Check the graph, he's been between 38-39% the entire time since annoucing, and Sanders and Warren have been 19-20 9-10 respectively. Bernies unfavorability has actually spiked, though, he's actually got more people viewing him unfavorably than Warren now when there used to be a huge gap.
I mean, that's not really the case:
2020 Democratic Primary
Check the graph, he's been between 38-39% the entire time since annoucing, and Sanders and Warren have been 19-20 9-10 respectively. Bernies unfavorability has actually spiked, though, he's actually got more people viewing him unfavorably than Warren now when there used to be a huge gap.
I'm guessing they're referring to the recent CNN poll that had him at 27 % (and Bernie at 15)
I mean, that's not really the case:
2020 Democratic Primary
Check the graph, he's been between 38-39% the entire time since annoucing, and Sanders and Warren have been 19-20 9-10 respectively.
Bah, from the political YouTuber I've been up to date on, they were talking about how his lead have been lower than at announcement but still solidly ahead of Bernie and Warren.
Still, I'll take a wait and see approach at the Democrat primary because Biden shouldn't be the nominee against other candidates.
This one?
That's 33% to 18% not 27% to 15%. The morning consult one is probably over the same time period, even. IIRC the CNN poll has more options, like a Hillary one, that makes all the numbers lower.
Most of political youtube is just catering to what certain groups want to hear. It's poll dependant so you can make a case that his lead in one poll(like the CNN one) has dropped from 18% between him and Sanders to 15%, but that doesn't mean much.
If Biden can keep his polling from dropping below 23% in a field of this many candidates when the first month of primaries take place, he'll win a ton of States and have a gigantic lead over everyone else. If he does I expect Obama to endorse him and that'll seal the nomination.
Obama's not gonna endorse anyone until they win the primary, I guarantee it.
I'm sure Biden is Pro war with Iran, haven't seen anything on CNN about Iran staying within the agreements of the Iran deal despite Reuters reporting it.
I see, that could've been made more clear.
Anyhow, if your point is that rigid left-right plotting doesn't make much sense, I can agree with you on that. You could replace that list with the right wing views in that video, and compare them to Trump voters and call him to the right too, but that still wouldn't be correct.
However, I can't agree if you're actually arguing Biden is to the left of the party. That purity test machine makes no sense unless you can figure out a way to put in his right wing views and gestures toward republicans into it and get it to spit out something intelligible.
EDIT: Like, maybe there is only 4 or so clusters of ideologies people congregate around that you can map on a line. Seems that way looking at politics all around the world. But even then I see the venn diagrams of individual policies go all over the place, sometimes because they share another ideologies goals, and sometimes they just share similar mechanisms to achieve the goal. Maybe mapping off policy statements isn't useless, but it's quite flawed. And it's extremely flawed when you're calculating in a way that magnifies any errors along those lines.
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It's going to be really hard to support this guy should he win the primary but I'll do it given the alternative is magnitudes worse.
The American left is in no place to be picky.
The American left is in no place to be picky.
Biden heavily advocated and went to bat for the Nuclear deal with Iran as part of the Obama administration. There has been absolutely nothing showing that his feelings have changed since then. This take keeps popping up and is ridiculous made-up garbage from conspiratorial types who feel the need to invent reasons to hate on things they don't like. Which in Biden's case, shouldn't be necessary.
His voing record isn't outstanding when it comes to foreign policy so it really isnt beyond the pale to think he would do it. Man the Biden bros are really out today.
You dont have to be a "Biden Bro" to shoot down blatant "Hillary the Hawk/Donald the Dove" nonsense when you see it.
This right here is why you don't give people like Biden and the center a single fucking thing. We need to always stand up and loudly demand what we need. Bending over and caving to them is what we've been doing for decades and it's only gotten us Trump.
The only way we go forward is if we're aggressive and loud in progressive messaging without budging an inch. You tell people that they are *wrong* and it needs to be this way.
This "HILLARY WILL TAKE US TO WAR" crap was being flung around in 2016 specifically to push Trump as the implicitly better alternative. Pretending Biden is secretly aligned with John Bolton's policy goals because of a gut feeling you have is to be doing the same thing.
I guess you forgot about Hillary's tenure as SoS supporting the Libyan rebels who are even crazier than Gadaffi and arming crazy jihadists to fight Assad in Syria prolonging the Syrian civil war. She's as bad as Bush/Cheney/Fleischer.
No. Because complaints about "prolonging the conflict" are asking to "please let the Russian-backed dictator gassing his own people win already"
I mean, if anyone pressures him on this, isn't this going to look very bad compared to most of the people on stage?
Was instigated by Bolton and crew who had plots and plans in motion before Bush was ever elected. They were also Republicans, the neoconservative push for all out invasion of random countries on their shitlist isn't coming from within the Dems.
Yes, a lot of Dem politicians made a super shitty political calculation at the time based off the incredibly rancid political climate on a vote that was going to pass no matter what they did.
That doesn't mean that anyone who voted for it is actively going to be pushing for random wars like Bolton.
The status quo shifts ever right after a republican Presidency, moving left is such an impossible task in this country
They're not nominating anyone... The electorate is.
Again, he was leading in the polls months before he even announced his run.
If you want to blame his popularity on the average ignorant American voter... Well, have at it. We have Trump thanks to them, for fucksake. Democracy only works if we have educated voters going to the polls- We clearly do not. It's not some institutional conspiracy or the will of the DNC over the voter (which you could have argued in 2016), it's simply that he has name recognition and support among moderates.
That's what happens when the overton windows shifts toward including fascism. Suddenly massively right wing corporate cheerleaders are considered socialists and people lap it up.