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Joe Manchin Implies He'll Vote for Trump over Sanders
- Thread starter legacyzero
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Sanders is a socialist, how do you think that sells outside the coasts?
He'd hedging his bets obviously
He'd hedging his bets obviously
I see we're having our daily purity test early today.
The dude is from West Virginia. Is it really surprising to you that that state is not a hotbed of Bernie support?
The dude is from West Virginia. Is it really surprising to you that that state is not a hotbed of Bernie support?
So... what's your solution here?
Primary Manchin? Run some kind of magical liberal Democrat that will 100% lose in WV?
I'd rather have someone who votes Democrat 75% of the time than someone who votes Democrat 0% of the time, and in WV, Joe Manchin is the most liberal you're going to ever get. Even he's on borrowed time.
Primary Manchin? Run some kind of magical liberal Democrat that will 100% lose in WV?
I'd rather have someone who votes Democrat 75% of the time than someone who votes Democrat 0% of the time, and in WV, Joe Manchin is the most liberal you're going to ever get. Even he's on borrowed time.
You should read up on this guy and report back your findings.
Exactly. This place can be so dumb sometimes. IT'S WEST FUCKING VIRGINIA. The state went like 70% Trump, Manchin only wins because he's been there forever and is well known. Put any other Democrat in his spot and they will lose to a Republican. Same with Sinema, they have to defend seats in right leaning states so they're not going to sign onto a self proclaimed socialist candidate, shocking.
I understand the liberal slant here but come on people, use some common sense.
It is. Manchin has been very tactical about his votes. He votes with pubs when a bill would pass (or fail) even without his vote, and he votes with dems when it matters so he can keep a certain record.
The rust belt could use some socialism, but they are dumbasses who will always vote red.
there's nothing i love more than waking up, logging on, and going to bat for this absolute scumbag in the name of the party
It is when you need that +1 letter D to not gut healthcare from millions!
Get real. The huge increase in the numbers of independent voters came from Republican voters who are sick of what Bush did. For professional politicans who couldn't keep up with the way that party was moving are no Democrats because the votes are there.
People like Manchin would be RINOs if they could feasibly join that party.
I agree that there are a significant amount of Democrats who would hedge their bets against a socialist but Manchin isn't one of them.
He's very good at keeping his job
He says stuff like this because it plays well to his base
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Reminder: Sanders won every county in WV in 2016
Also: Sanders isnt afraid to speak to these voters
Also: Sanders isnt afraid to speak to these voters
"BUT WE NEEEEEED HIIMMM"
Yeah, how dare that "bitch". A great way to sell yourself! Surprised she didn't go for "cunt".
Wow he'll sweep in the general in 2020!
CoolOkay...
That doesn't change that Joe Manchin is literally the most liberal Senator you will ever get from West Virginia. Once he retires, that's one less seat the Democrats will ever have.
This. You can primary him all you want, but Trump won West Virginia by 40 points, so good luck. Manchin is actually quite adept at being a red state Democrat. He voted for Kavanaugh, but only after it was clear that he was going to have enough votes thanks to Suddenly Susan. He would never be the deciding vote. People can call that a slimy move, but the guy knows what he is doing.
Basically. It's him or someone like him or a republican. Take someone that will vote with Dems 50% to 75% of the time over someone that votes with them 0% of the time. This is WV. No liberal or progressive is winning there. Even a more left moderate isn't going to work there. Like said even Manchin is on thin ice lately. As long as he protects the big things let him do what he has to do to keep that seat while he can. More energy needs to be put on winning other seats so things aren't dependent on his seat and vote the way they are.
Joe knows if Sanders is on the ticket he'll be out of a job, he's just throwing meat to his base.
The purity test of a democrat supporting another democrat over Trump?
What good is a Democratic senator if they are going to support trump?
The Rust Belt usually votes blue actually and was part of the Blue Wall until 2016. Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin by a combined 77k votes, and he was the first Republican to win in those states since the 80's. My state, Ohio is sadly trending red sadly, but did vote for Obama twice.
if some random dude on twitter is a bernie or buster folks are up in arms, but a democratic senator saying they'd rather vote for trump over sanders? eh, no big deal.
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Bernie won every county in WV because the open primary allowed the republicans the opportunity to vote against Hillary Clinton.
He voted against the ACA repeal and the tax bill.
It's fucking West Virginia! What are you expecting?
I agree, supporting trump over the democratic nominee is defensible!
the largest of sarcasms, obviously
I still don't expect Bernie to win the nomination, but hoo boy is there going to be an absolutely massive amount of hypocrisy from the NeverBernie crowd if he does
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A House member stupidly notates "present" on a political vote for the Amenian Genocide: "PRIMARY HERRRRR"
Blue dog Joe votes conservative an uncomfortable amount of times: "Hes necessary!"
Okay, so explain to me the practical thing that liberals can do about Manchin rather than sit and whine about him on social media.
Have been asking myself that since the first time I heard of him.
Something about a political revolution.
It's almost like one is from a safe Democrat district and one is from the reddest state in the country